Do you think that jugglers get more credit than they deserve
G.A.R
performance (I
did some gimmicky stuff in my act, like juggling on a unicycle as well as
some
harder stuff like 5 ball backcrosses), I don't think that I deserved it.
I feel like there were musicians and dancers who had more talent and put
in more
effort, but they were judged more critically because the judges know more
about
it and they have more competition.
What do you think? When someone is impressed by your juggling, are they
amazed
by your personal skill, or the rarity of the skill itself?
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Rootberry
I used to enjoy when people would say something about us being skilled or
talented but at this point I
am much more happy when people say, you guys are funny. People may not
know how difficult the
trick are but they all enjoy the comedy.
ringjuggler
skill ?
Put a fire juggler next to someone doing seven balls and most normal
people are gonna watch the fire; sad maybe but it has a larger
entertainment "factor"
jj
TK
there was not a cute prepubescent girl or boy in the competition. While
a fair number of judges know music better than juggling, there is a
significant number of those that are nearly tone deaf. They are
rewarding the charismatic value of the performer - not the skill level.
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TK
http://www.wejuggle2.com/
The secret to being a successful performer is honesty.
Once you can fake that, you pretty much have it made. (George Burns)
AverageJoggler
is less.
I find that the most overrated entertainers are the people who sing.
It takes much less skill / practice to sing a song than it does to
learn to juggle and develop an entertaining show.
Of course, it is true that people are just as amazed by relatively
easy tricks than they are by difficult ones.
thatguy
impressed by any of it. People get far, far too much credit for things
that take almost no skill to do.
On the other hand, most people have no idea the time commitment and
dedication it takes to do 7 ball tricks. They are not nearly as impressed
as they should be and those jugglers get far less credit than they are
entitled to.
Thank you,
thatguy
robert
I think you totally deserved it...
I mean... 5 ball backcrosses...!!!!!!
Dave Altman
>
> I won a talent show tonight, and although it was an almost perfect
> performance (I
> did some gimmicky stuff in my act, like juggling on a unicycle as well as
> some
> harder stuff like 5 ball backcrosses), I don't think that I deserved it.
>
> I feel like there were musicians and dancers who had more talent and put
> in more
> effort, but they were judged more critically because the judges know more
> about
> it and they have more competition.
You seem to be underestimating what you do, by saying if you can do it, it
shouldn't be valued by others. I think this is actually quite a common
feeling. You are rating how good something is by how difficult it is to
you. Some people, jugglers included, wouldn't necessarily say that
juggling on a unicycle was gimmicky. Some that are jealous might demean
it, but others would be impressed because they can't come close to doing
it.
We tend to admire skills that we can not do, even more than we appreciate
our own skills. I did a show where one of the acts was a classical music
group. I was very impressed with how good they were. Several members of
the audience came up to me afterward and said I was the best in the show,
by far! I said, "What about the classic music group?" The people said that
they were okay, but they really liked my act. I said thank-you, but I was
thinking to myself, "What are they thinking, that group was great!"
We can't expect non-jugglers to know the difficulty of every single trick,
heck, we can't even agree on that ourselves. I'm sure singers do much more
difficult vocal tricks in certain songs than just the long, high note,
typically done at the end, which usually receives the most applause.
Sometimes juggling is over rated, sometimes it's under appreciated, so it
comes out just about right. In the long run, it doesn't matter.
Dave Altman
Steven Ragatz
I'll give you a little advice: Don't allow yourself the arrogance to tell
the audience what they do, or don't like. On that particular evening,
they liked you! Don't throw that away! You performed a juggling act, a
kind of performance that is so much more that the sum of the tricks. For
whatever reason, you connected with the audience and judges. Trying to
find that connection is why you should get up on the stage in the first
place.
It sounds to me like you feel that a juggling performance is just showing
off. Don't try to just to impress! You also need engage and entertain
the audience. Captivate their imagination and carry them along for a
journey. The performance is collective experience including both the
performer and the audience. Never forget that they're watching YOU and
they want YOU to succeed, because when you succeed, they do as well.
Steven Ragatz
Dave Altman
> The performance is collective experience including both the
> performer and the audience. Never forget that they're watching YOU and
> they want YOU to succeed, because when you succeed, they do as well.
A friend of mine, Mike Williams, wrote a book called, "The Leap of the
Small Time Toad," which was a book about how to book yourself in the
college market. One thing he said that struck a note with me, is that an
audience is there to have a good time and they will have a good time if
you [the performer] doesn't get in the way.
Dave Altman
jimifun
>
>
> I find that the most overrated entertainers are the people who sing.
> It takes much less skill / practice to sing a song than it does to
> learn to juggle and develop an entertaining show.
>
i think you are underestermating the amount of training good singers have.
they diserve the credit they get
Ben Thompson
>
> AverageJoggler wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > I find that the most overrated entertainers are the people who sing.
> > It takes much less skill / practice to sing a song than it does to
> > learn to juggle and develop an entertaining show.
> >
>
> i think you are underestermating the amount of training good singers have.
> they diserve the credit they get
>
I think both of you are right. A lot of good singers have had a lot of
training and deserve a lot of credit. However, you still see singers get
more credit than they really deserve all the time. I've been beaten by
singers in competitions in the past and they weren't even close to being
as good a singer as I am a juggler.
Allison0z
one says that's soo hard.
But I. The diving world I'm scoreing 120 when my team mayes are scoring
200+. I dive for my
school
AverageJoggler
>
> i think you are underestermating the amount of training good singers have.
> they diserve the credit they get
>
I wasn't trying to disparage singers. You are correct that some of
them are excellent & spend hours honing their skills.
It just takes a lot less work / skill to be able to sing a song (if
you've got at least minimal talent) than it does to create and perform
a juggling routine.
Look how many famous, successful average singers there are.
How many famous, average jugglers are there?