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David Ferman

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May 22, 2008, 9:34:11 PM5/22/08
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It seems to me like everyone is saying that you should juggle to do new
tricks that no one has done before. I see a trick that i like and i want
to learn it. Once you learn that trick there are endless variations on
that trick and endless variations on those variations, so why do people
say its so bad to learn tricks you have seen before. In the future when
you have learned all of these tricks that hav the endless posibilities
then you can use creativity around them. This is how new tricks are born!
Then if you are throwing all of these backcrosses and decide "oh wat if i
can throw them under my arm and a backcross at the same time a new trick
is born." I think that becoming an amazing juggler and learning all of
the tricks you see is exactly the key to unlocking new tricks. Any
responses?

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ChrisFowler

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May 22, 2008, 10:00:54 PM5/22/08
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Well, personally, I have no problems with people doing the same tricks
everybody does, for the same reasons you mentioned. I won't necessarily
watch all their videos, but I wouldn't want to discourage them either. I
juggle because it's fun, and I like to push my limits. I do a LOT of
tricks that everybody else does, and I _try_ to come up with some of my
own.

Now, just watching other people's videos and copying them might not be the
key, but you'll get better, for sure.

Brian Fahs

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May 22, 2008, 10:01:11 PM5/22/08
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"David Ferman" <juggl...@yahoo.com.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:48361f13$0$664$bed6...@news.gradwell.net...

I'm 35 years old. I've been juggling for 25 years already. Do to the
infrequence with which I have to practice, I juggle now:

1 - For Fun
2 - To spend times with my Friends.
3 - To get away from my other responsibilities.

Brian


bill coad

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May 23, 2008, 12:08:46 AM5/23/08
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A classic approach to many arts is first learn to copy the masters and
then work on your own style.
I personally enjoy focusing on multiplexing since I can juggle non-obscure
patterns that aren't those that I see others doing.

Ed Provencher

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May 23, 2008, 12:26:39 AM5/23/08
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On May 23, 1:08 pm, billc...@roadrunner.com.nospam.com (bill coad)
wrote:

> I personally enjoy focusing on multiplexing since I can juggle non-obscure
> patterns that aren't those that I see others doing.


Can you elaborate on that?

www.icantstopjuggling.blogspot.com

bill coad

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May 23, 2008, 1:25:36 AM5/23/08
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I was a musician long before learning to juggle, and I found that when
trying do develop a unique melody or juggling pattern that if it was a
simple one it had likely already been done before and otherwise it ended
up being a bit obscure and tough for an audience to follow. When I
started multiplexing I found this to not always be true.
e.g. one pattern I like is [11][655][1]515, which is just a 3 ball shower
with one throw being a triplex. It's conceptually simple but I don't see
others throwing it.

ultimatewannabe

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May 23, 2008, 3:03:54 AM5/23/08
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I would say that people who scold other people for doing things with
juggling that gives them whatever they want to get out of it are the ones
who need scolding.

I agree with you, lots of really good jugglers saw a bunch of tricks
somewhere (book, convention, guy at a local club) and decided
indiscriminantly to learn them all. I don't remember where I heard this
but I believe one of the ways Matt Hall got started was reading a juggling
book and learning every single trick in it. Whether or not he did this, I
see the logical next step is mimicing online videos until a high enough
level is reached to do something enjoyable which for some people (me)
isn't much more than just the next number.

All good jugglers got started by mimicing something cool that they saw:
juggling. The only real difference is when they started branching out
into their own styles.

Mike

Ed Provencher

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May 23, 2008, 4:38:34 AM5/23/08
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On May 23, 10:34 am, juggler1...@yahoo.com.nospam.com (David Ferman)
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I've been living in Korea for about 20 months and I really enjoy the
traditional performing arts I frequently see here. These arts have
not changed for centuries. People spend their lives studying and
perfecting the sames skills needed to perform the same songs and
dances. Granted, not all Koreans are so enamored by traditional
culture as this foreigner is.

Is there such a thing as a traditional juggler? What role, if any,
does tradition play in juggling? Is there anything in juggling
deserving of our dedication to preserving it?

rdiss

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May 23, 2008, 10:15:55 AM5/23/08
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I think of it as playing the piano (or any other instrument). Not
everyone who plays an instrument also writes music. Hence, I've come up
with very little (if anything) that's new. Some people like to do that; I
don't. I just enjoy juggling patterns that I like. Rather like I enjoy
playing music that other people have written. Beethoven was a much better
writer than I'll ever be, so for the most part I let him do his job.

I use juggling (as well as the piano) to challenge myself and keep my mind
alert. And to pick up chicks.

-bd
(oooh. an accountant named bob that juggles. . . instant chick magnet)

Marden117

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May 23, 2008, 11:04:35 AM5/23/08
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That's because I haven't released my DVD yet ;D

Joking aside, I am much the same as you Bill. I develop my skills through
multiplex as I know that what I am doing is something new. I won't try for
a db97531, even though I think it's an awesome achievement, purely because
someone else has done it and I know it's possible. If someone else has
already done it, it takes away my view that the trick is difficult.
So it's not for the sake of being first; it's the love of challenging
myself to accomplishing something that seems impossible.

David Ferman

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May 23, 2008, 4:34:20 PM5/23/08
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i want to learn the trick so that once in get it sumwat consistent i can
connect it change it or do sumthin else to it

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