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BaconJuggling

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Dec 8, 2009, 4:00:00 PM12/8/09
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if anyone knows how to do this please leave me a description cuz im bad at
figuring out patters

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Eoghan

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Dec 18, 2009, 1:09:41 PM12/18/09
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BaconJuggling wrote:
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> if anyone knows how to do this please leave me a description cuz im bad at
> figuring out patters
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Hi

Sorry for being so slow to respond. I'll try to explain Mossie's mess
first:

The underlying pattern in Mossie's mess is basically 2up1up, with the 2
balls changing hands. You can perform it slightly galloped (i'll get to
this) or perfectly sync. For simplicity, let's say it's sync.

The 2up: with one ball in each hand, cross your arms so the left hand is
on top. When you throw these two balls, they will both travel paralell to
your torso, but on different paths through the air. The ball from your
left (top) hand will travel closer to your body, inside your arms. The
ball from your right hand will travel on a path outside that of the other
ball, further from your body.

You need to be able to throw both balls, uncross your arms, and then
recross them in the same position, with the left hand back on top, to
catch. The ball thrown from your left (top) hand will be caught by your
right hand as it crosses back under, inside your left elbow.
While this two-ball exchange can be made without moving the hands very
much, you need to be able to uncross and recross while they are in the air
to perform the whole pattern. You could try clicking your fingers on your
right hand to mark the beat between release and catch.
Bear in mind that the arm and ball motions in Mossie's mess are different
to the Mills mess, where the hands and balls all move in a single plane.
The motions of Mossie's mess are 3D: looking down on your hands, they
should be moving (clockwise) around each other, not just over and under.
Likewise, the ball paths do not intersect- there is an inside lane and an
outside lane.

The 1up: your right hand will throw a self from outside the pattern, like
a reverse throw, catching it underneath the left arm, outside the left
elbow.

The trick: provided you can do the 2up fluently, you can now try the trick
i one smooth swoop. Holding two balls in your right, one in your left,
place your arms with the left on top. Now do the 2up, and as your right
arm recrosses, do the 1up. If you catch it, you have now 'flashed' the
pattern!

Variation: there's massive room for varying the manner you perform
Mossie's mess. For example, you can do the left hand's throw very small,
which yields a gallop in the catching rhythm, and a nice visual effect,
where the ball is 'tucked away' really fast. You can also throw the 2up
straighter i.e. with less of a horizontal movement, and compensate by
carrying after the catch.

Moxie's mess: I strongly recommend getting your head around Mossie's mess
first. The underlying pattern is 2up1up with all the balls crossing, and
the hands crossing over/around each other in both directions.

The 2up: as in Mossie's mess, there is an inside lane and an outside lane.
Whichever ball is thrown by the hand on top travels in the outside lane,
and the ball thrown by the hand underneath travels in the inside lane.
The hands recross the other way between 2ups i.e. the outside lane ball
will be thrown by the left hand on top, caught in the right hand on top,
then thrown from the right hand on top and caught in the left hand on top.

The inside lane ball is thrown by the right hand from outside the left
elbow, caught by the left hand inside the right elbow, then thrown again
by the left hand outide the right elbow...

The 1up: this is thrown from the ordinary hand postion, like a reverse
throw, to the other side (or just into the middle) of the pattern.

The trick: start with two balls in whichever hand is underneath. Do the
2up, then as you are about to recross, release the 1 up. Now repeat on the
opposite side.
To do this trick, and even just to understand the description, it would
help a lot to learn Mossie's mess on both sides. (I've described it for
one side above, so just switch the words left and right).


I hope you find this helpful- i've never tried to convey these ideas in
text before, and it can be a bit tricky sometimes even in person. To me
Mossie's mess is not just another crossarm trick, but a different approach
to juggling.
It opens up a new dimension for tricks, literally.

If there's anything unclear/that looks like a typo/ that you'd like to ask
about these tricks, i'll get back to you in a more timely fashion!

Good luck and happy juggling

Moxie

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