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Brage Borgs�

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Dec 5, 2009, 7:05:06 AM12/5/09
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OK, so I flash'ed 5 clubs yesterday, and I'm really happy about it!

OH; BTW, I got 6 catches 30 minutes later


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6RqEdxTo6Q

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Adam Rowney

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Dec 5, 2009, 11:39:18 AM12/5/09
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Brage Borgs� wrote:
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> OK, so I flash'ed 5 clubs yesterday, and I'm really happy about it!
>
> OH; BTW, I got 6 catches 30 minutes later
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6RqEdxTo6Q

Ah congrats ! :) Always a good feeling when you do something new :)

Some people from this thread will like the end of your video :P
http://www.jugglingdb.com/news/thread.php?group=1&offset=0&thread=167379&id=230546

Keep it up, and good luck with the qualify.

andanother

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Dec 5, 2009, 12:37:26 PM12/5/09
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My motto is 'Whatever works'.


/Dons flameproof suit

andanother

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Dec 5, 2009, 12:44:33 PM12/5/09
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Also good luck with the 5 clubs. :)


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MrLollige

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Dec 7, 2009, 5:48:17 AM12/7/09
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A general question: When do you start reccomending working on 5 clubs, and
what does it take?

After practising on it for 15 minutes I can easily flash 5 clubs (catching
the 5th one with my elbow, 2 hands or legs -_-), but that does not mean I
can easily start juggling 5 clubs. What 4 clubs skills do you recommend? I
can not juggle 4 clubs infinitely long, often I don't even make it to 10
seconds, but throwing clubs outwards then again is very odd...

Erik Jernqvist

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Dec 7, 2009, 7:27:45 AM12/7/09
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I would recommend getting good control over 4 clubs on both singles and
doubles and 5 balls before seriously working on 5 clubs.

Jon Solberg

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Dec 7, 2009, 7:48:50 AM12/7/09
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Seconded.

Not that I'm much of a club juggling person (I do tend to prefer large
rings) but my five clubs got helped a lot by doing different crossing
patterns with four. Of course, I worked on five in parallel, but I
wouldn't say it was the most efficient way of learning (given that all
kids of today can juggle five in their sleep and often manages quite
long runs with six). Seven? Don't even mention it. I've managed a best
of ten catches ever. It wasn't worth the effort.

I also noticed that strength had a lot to do with learning 5c's
too. As a beginner, you tend to become quite tired fast when working
on higher numbers which will make your bad throws even worse. Practice
on five regularly quite early in your practice session (once you're
warmed up), and start with short runs (say 10-15 minutes). Make them
longer as you progress.

But as often with getting things solid it's practice that makes
perfect. Practice with five that is.

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Jon Solberg (remove "nospam." from email address).

edward

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Dec 7, 2009, 8:35:19 AM12/7/09
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I have been trying to get 5 club cascade solid and it is taking a very
long time, but I think mastering 53 (5-double 3-single) and then moving on
to the much harder 534 (5-triple, 3-single, 4-double) is setting a good
foundation.. of course nobody is going to learn 5 clubs with practicing 5
clubs, but these 4 club practice patterns makes (for me) practicing 5 seem
less futile. (Also ((6,0)* and 633 are a lot of fun!)

edward

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Dec 7, 2009, 8:42:45 AM12/7/09
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I meant (6,2)*

Will S

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Dec 7, 2009, 8:55:12 AM12/7/09
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Agreed. Certainly 53 (double/singles) on both sides but I'm not convinced
about other siteswaps such as 55550 and 5551[4], the latter of which I've
only just learnt with 4 clubs. (6x,0)(0,6x) I would say helps too.

Good luck,
Will

MrLollige

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Dec 11, 2009, 3:49:26 AM12/11/09
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I borrowed a 5th club for a day, and I figured that it was easier then I
expected, after 2 hours I had a qualify ;).
But since I have a lot of other things I want to learn, and I don't own 5
clubs myself, I think ill wait a little longer.
Thanks for the advice guys!

Vince

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Dec 12, 2009, 1:49:40 AM12/12/09
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> Agreed. Certainly 53 (double/singles) on both sides but I'm not convinced
> about other siteswaps such as 55550 and 5551[4], the latter of which I've
> only just learnt with 4 clubs. (6x,0)(0,6x) I would say helps too.

I would say 55550 and 5551 are both neglected a bit too much by a lot of
people working on five clubs. I ignored them for the longest time when I
was first learning five clubs. They are the closest thing (pretty well)
that you're going to get to actually juggling five clubs.

Practicing pattens like 53 and the like do help but the rhythm isn't
really as similar to an actual five beat pattern.

Plus having a solid 55550 is good for take out patterns with five when
you're getting into more advanced things later on.

TraxxasJedi

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Dec 12, 2009, 2:32:08 PM12/12/09
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Vince wrote:
>
>
> I would say 55550 and 5551 are both neglected a bit too much by a lot of
> people working on five clubs. I ignored them for the longest time when I
> was first learning five clubs. They are the closest thing (pretty well)
> that you're going to get to actually juggling five clubs.
>
> Practicing pattens like 53 and the like do help but the rhythm isn't
> really as similar to an actual five beat pattern.
>
> Plus having a solid 55550 is good for take out patterns with five when
> you're getting into more advanced things later on.
>

I honestly did not find either 55550 or 5551 to be helpful patterns when I
was learning five clubs (55550 did not fall into place until I was
consistently getting 40+ catch runs of five, and to this day I probably
could not run 5551. I'm a fairly consistent five club juggler). The
patterns din't work well for me because I couldn't handle the 0 and 1
properly; they would mess up the timing. 552, with both balls and clubs,
was the only four object pattern that I really trained with. It had a
rhythm that I understood instinctually, and has the same feeling as five
for two throws in a row from each hand.

Just offering another opinion...

crazy hippy

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Dec 12, 2009, 4:01:18 PM12/12/09
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On Dec 12, 2:32 pm, JediMaster...@netscape.net.nospam.com

I imagine you would probably have to be pretty comfortable with those
siteswaps with 4 balls before jumping into them with clubs. I actually
just learned 5551 and started adding snaps into the 0's of 55550 and
it seems to be doing good things for my 5 ball cascade. I'm pretty
consistent with the cascade at this point, but even still those 4-ball
warmups seem to lead to longer, cleaner runs.

TraxxasJedi

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Dec 12, 2009, 4:47:33 PM12/12/09
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crazy hippy wrote:
>
>
> I imagine you would probably have to be pretty comfortable with those
> siteswaps with 4 balls before jumping into them with clubs. I actually
> just learned 5551 and started adding snaps into the 0's of 55550 and
> it seems to be doing good things for my 5 ball cascade. I'm pretty
> consistent with the cascade at this point, but even still those 4-ball
> warmups seem to lead to longer, cleaner runs.
>
>

Actually, I learned 5 balls and clubs at roughly the same time (not my
best idea ever). I could kind of hold 55550 with balls for a little while
when learning, but it's only been recently (about two years later) where
I've found any desire to play with 5551.

Also, it's been my experience that the beat in 5+ clubs is very differnt
from the beat found in 5+ balls (assimung same number is being discussed).
This causes one to completely relearn the timing required to do any
pattern that requires 5 height throws. 552 just seemed to click for me,
others didn't. I don't know why, but it did.

kreso

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Dec 15, 2009, 6:36:37 PM12/15/09
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On 12 Dec 2009 19:32:08 GMT, TraxxasJedi wrote:

> I honestly did not find either 55550 or 5551 to be helpful patterns when I
> was learning five clubs (55550 did not fall into place until I was
> consistently getting 40+ catch runs of five, and to this day I probably
> could not run 5551. I'm a fairly consistent five club juggler). The
> patterns din't work well for me because I couldn't handle the 0 and 1
> properly; they would mess up the timing. 552, with both balls and clubs,
> was the only four object pattern that I really trained with. It had a
> rhythm that I understood instinctually, and has the same feeling as five
> for two throws in a row from each hand.
>
> Just offering another opinion...

i agree with you on 5551 - that 1 seems very weird to me (i don't practice
siteswaps that much). also - 53 was helpful, but 534 no.

on the other hand, i feel that 55550 is one of the most important
exercises, and that 0 you can use to tap your hand to your leg. that keeps
rythm going on instead of going into horse gallop (kinda 552).

there is one pattern that i wish i practiced sooner because it really
helped - it's 4 club fountain on singles. that feeling is similar to 5 club
cascade because you're also throwing high/loafty.

but the most important thing is to be patient, because none of this
patterns won't give instant results, i noticed after several days/weeks
some significant improvment...

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