markings on chocolate lab pub
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that both parents are AKC registered. I got to look at both chocolate
parents and they were good sized. The breeder was only going to
register half the litter because half the pups had yellow markings
on the legs and paws. He was selling them for half the price.
I bought one of these pups because 1. I am cheap 2. I have no
desire to breed or show dogs 3. I wanted a house pet that if it
hunts will be a big plus but not a big disappointment(I live in the
most duckless state in the US(WV) and don't have the stomach for
the stocked pheasent free for all in PA.
My questions - does what the breeder told me sound correct?
That the pub I bought was the combination of two AKC
chocolate labs and these markings just showed up or were there
multiple fathers of the litter?
Can a litter have multiple fathers if multiple males visit
a female in heat?
The pup looks very lab like.
Just wondering. I don't mind buying a cosmetically inferior
lab but I did want to buy a lab.
She is very pretty and with any luck will make
a great companion.
Gino
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# I just adapted a female chocolate lub pup. The breeder said
#that both parents are AKC registered. I got to look at both chocolate
#parents and they were good sized. The breeder was only going to
#register half the litter because half the pups had yellow markings
#on the legs and paws. He was selling them for half the price.
#I bought one of these pups because 1. I am cheap 2. I have no
#desire to breed or show dogs 3. I wanted a house pet that if it
#hunts will be a big plus but not a big disappointment(I live in the
#most duckless state in the US(WV) and don't have the stomach for
#the stocked pheasent free for all in PA.
#
#My questions - does what the breeder told me sound correct?
# That the pub I bought was the combination of two AKC
#chocolate labs and these markings just showed up or were there
#multiple fathers of the litter?
Either is possible. Wierd marking are not that uncommon. For example,
in the litter I had last April where a yellow was bred to a yellow (and
only yellow pups are possbible), one of the pups had a black spot behind
one ear. I checked with 3 vets and they all said it is usually a
mutation during development of the embryo (and not heriditary). I
suspect this is the REAL cause in your litter as well.
#Can a litter have multiple fathers if multiple males visit
#a female in heat?
Yes. Different pups can have different sires in the same litter. The
female is receiptive for anywhere from 5-10 days during estrous and
ususally isn't picky about who she breeds with.
#The pup looks very lab like.
#Just wondering. I don't mind buying a cosmetically inferior
#lab but I did want to buy a lab.
#
#She is very pretty and with any luck will make
#a great companion.
Given these 2 statements, don't worry about it. Sounds like you got a
puppy like you were looking for.
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colors, you wont get a "chocolate" with "Part yellow" markings. There
is also a strong possibility that the pups that look all lab are not
pure bred either. The litter should not be registered at all. A female
can have a litter of 10 different pups with 10 different fathers if she
was bred 10 different times while she was in heat. Your breeder is
everything that is bad about dog breeders. And by the way, dogs can
breed through a single layer of chain link fence without any problem.
It would appear that if you are looking for a lab, you need to look
elsewhere.
Archy E. Wiseman
Gin...@MY-DEJANEWS.COM wrote:
#
# I just adapted a female chocolate lub pup. The breeder said
# that both parents are AKC registered. I got to look at both chocolate
# parents and they were good sized. The breeder was only going to
# register half the litter because half the pups had yellow markings
# on the legs and paws. He was selling them for half the price.
# I bought one of these pups because 1. I am cheap 2. I have no
# desire to breed or show dogs 3. I wanted a house pet that if it
# hunts will be a big plus but not a big disappointment(I live in the
# most duckless state in the US(WV) and don't have the stomach for
# the stocked pheasent free for all in PA.
#
# My questions - does what the breeder told me sound correct?
# That the pub I bought was the combination of two AKC
# chocolate labs and these markings just showed up or were there
# multiple fathers of the litter?
#
# Can a litter have multiple fathers if multiple males visit
# a female in heat?
#
# The pup looks very lab like.
# Just wondering. I don't mind buying a cosmetically inferior
# lab but I did want to buy a lab.
#
# She is very pretty and with any luck will make
# a great companion.
#
# Gino
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certainly expects solid colors. However a Lab which carries two copies of
the recessive tan-point color pattern gene (the solid color pattern gene is
dominant) will be of the so-called tan-point color pattern. A chocolate
will be brown with light markings on its lower legs, light spots on the
inside of its eyebrows and a lightened muzzle. A black will be similarly
patterned with tan, and lighted shades perhaps. This pattern is not
expressed in yellow Labs. Source for this information: "The Official Book
of the Labrador Retriever" published by the Labrador Retriever Club.
JT
The Murray Pack: Jere and Sandy Murray, Shadow & Tucker
Chocolate Labs near Seldovia Alaska at 59.47N, 151.70W
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Date: Friday, July 17, 1998 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: markings on chocolate lab pub
#It is very unlikely that your pup is pure bred. Labs throw solid
#colors, you wont get a "chocolate" with "Part yellow" markings. There
#is also a strong possibility that the pups that look all lab are not
#pure bred either. The litter should not be registered at all. A female
#can have a litter of 10 different pups with 10 different fathers if she
#was bred 10 different times while she was in heat. Your breeder is
#everything that is bad about dog breeders. And by the way, dogs can
#breed through a single layer of chain link fence without any problem.
#It would appear that if you are looking for a lab, you need to look
#elsewhere.
#
#Archy E. Wiseman
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by
# Dr. med. vet. I. Kraft, which is the most experienced lab breeder in
# Germany, are a few picture of labs with color deflections. There is a
# picture of a black and tan lab, one of a yellow-brown puppy, a yellow
bitch
# with a 2" black spot on its forehead and also a picture of a brindle
# colored lab. The one brown Lab I own, shows a few smaller white patches
on
# his paws.
# For all these variation of the (in Germany the KC) standard is a gentic
# explanation. So I guess the dog of Gino is a real lab and it's okay as
long
# as you don't breed with it.
#
# Alexander
# Al.K...@t-online.de
# http://home.t-online.de/home/Al.Krause/
# Germany
# Jere Murray <jm...@XYZ.NET> schrieb im Beitrag
# <6p0gpb$h...@xring.cs.umd.edu>...
# > It is not correct that "Labs throw solid colors." The Lab standard
# > certainly expects solid colors. However a Lab which carries two copies
# of
# > the recessive tan-point color pattern gene (the solid color pattern
gene
# is
# > dominant) will be of the so-called tan-point color pattern. A
chocolate
# > will be brown with light markings on its lower legs, light spots on the
# > inside of its eyebrows and a lightened muzzle. A black will be
similarly
# > patterned with tan, and lighted shades perhaps. This pattern is not
# > expressed in yellow Labs. Source for this information: "The Official
# Book
# > of the Labrador Retriever" published by the Labrador Retriever Club.
# >
# > JT
# >
# > The Murray Pack: Jere and Sandy Murray, Shadow & Tucker
# > Chocolate Labs near Seldovia Alaska at 59.47N, 151.70W
# > mailto:jm...@xyz.net
# > http://www.xyz.net/~jmurr/SBWS
# > -----Original Message-----
# > From: Deirdre Wiseman <admwi...@MAILHOST.DAY.AMERITECH.NET>
# > Newsgroups: rec.hunting.dogs
# > To: GUND...@BIGFOOT.COM <GUND...@BIGFOOT.COM>
# > Date: Friday, July 17, 1998 6:55 PM
# > Subject: Re: markings on chocolate lab pub
# >
# >
# > #It is very unlikely that your pup is pure bred. Labs throw solid
# > #colors, you wont get a "chocolate" with "Part yellow" markings. There
# > #is also a strong possibility that the pups that look all lab are not
# > #pure bred either. The litter should not be registered at all. A
female
# > #can have a litter of 10 different pups with 10 different fathers if
she
# > #was bred 10 different times while she was in heat. Your breeder is
# > #everything that is bad about dog breeders. And by the way, dogs can
# > #breed through a single layer of chain link fence without any problem.
# > #It would appear that if you are looking for a lab, you need to look
# > #elsewhere.
# > #
# > #Archy E. Wiseman
# > #
# > #Gin...@MY-DEJANEWS.COM wrote:
# > #>
# > #> I just adapted a female chocolate lub pup. The breeder said
# > #> that both parents are AKC registered. I got to look at both
chocolate
# > #> parents and they were good sized. The breeder was only going to
# > #> register half the litter because half the pups had yellow markings
# > #> on the legs and paws. He was selling them for half the price.
# > #> I bought one of these pups because 1. I am cheap 2. I have no
# > #> desire to breed or show dogs 3. I wanted a house pet that if it
# > #> hunts will be a big plus but not a big disappointment(I live in the
# > #> most duckless state in the US(WV) and don't have the stomach for
# > #> the stocked pheasent free for all in PA.
# > #>
# > #> My questions - does what the breeder told me sound correct?
# > #> That the pub I bought was the combination of two AKC
# > #> chocolate labs and these markings just showed up or were there
# > #> multiple fathers of the litter?
# > #>
# > #> Can a litter have multiple fathers if multiple males visit
# > #> a female in heat?
# > #>
# > #> The pup looks very lab like.
# > #> Just wondering. I don't mind buying a cosmetically inferior
# > #> lab but I did want to buy a lab.
# > #>
# > #> She is very pretty and with any luck will make
# > #> a great companion.
# > #>
# > #> Gino
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