2 questions
Gary Ramus
However I think weim's are a very beautiful dog, but I don't see or hear
much about them anywhere including here on GD. Can I get some info on the
good and bad points of Weimeraner's??? Is there anyone who uses them who is
on GD???
2. I have a friend who asked me about a finished dog. He was specifically
interested in a Chesapeake Bay Retriever. I know some of the good and bad
points of CBR's but I wondered what advice you all would give. Amy Dahl, I
would be interested in hearing what you think, if you have finished dogs and
would you recommend them. This guy had a Chesapeake years ago that he hunted
with, however he knows little about training and I doubt if his dog would
have been considered trained by most on this list. He also has 4 kids ages
8-15. I have not and will not give him names of any people on this list
without first talking to you and making sure it was with your approval.
Thanks in advance,
Gary
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> 2. I have a friend who asked me about a finished dog. He was specifically
> interested in a Chesapeake Bay Retriever. I know some of the good and bad
> points of CBR's but I wondered what advice you all would give. Amy Dahl, I
> would be interested in hearing what you think, if you have finished dogs and
> would you recommend them. This guy had a Chesapeake years ago that he hunted
> with, however he knows little about training and I doubt if his dog would
> have been considered trained by most on this list. He also has 4 kids ages
> 8-15. I have not and will not give him names of any people on this list
> without first talking to you and making sure it was with your approval.
>
Chesapeake Bay Retrievers with owners/families. Yes, I have
experience with the breed and am fond of them, and yes, I have
placed (sold) finished, adult male CBR's. I am aware of the fact
that they are not the dog for everyone, but exactly how much
latitude there is, or how much potential for trouble, in placing
a well-brought-up dog in a situation where the owners are not
experienced trainers, I don't know. The problems that arise when
an ambitious puppy is raised in a permissive situation might or
might not ever occur. I do try to be conservative,
looking for someone who will do a lot of hunting (if it is a very
motivated dog), and spend a lot of time with the dog. My dog
Skipper went to an owner who has his own sporting-goods store and
takes Skipper to work with him. That was a plus. He also
hunts about six months out of the year. We have a
wonderful male currently in the process of being sold. I turned
down one guy who wanted to buy him--he is a rich doctor and was
offended--mainly as a pet. He wanted to take this dog who has run
Opens, place it with another trainer long enough to get a SH title,
then retire it as a pet. At three, having been trained all his
life, going to a home where he would have no mental challenge and
to people who don't have a feel for the work ethic of a trained dog,
I'd be concerned he would get into trouble. The prospective owner
we have found is an avid hunter and is really turned on by the
video we sent him--wants to work the dog regularly himself and
try handling him in hunt tests. That gives me a lot more
confidence.
Sorry to ramble so much. I guess I don't have enough experience
at placing Chesapeakes to give neat generalities--just messy
accounts of my little experience! I do have a bitch with a
pretty much bullet-proof temperament whom I might sell--she's
well started, but not finished yet. I'd bet on her in almost
any home.
I think as in buying any dog, I'd suggest that your friend
look for a seller who shows an interest in making sure it's
a good match. The person selling the dog is probably better
equipped to evaluate that than anyone else.
Amy Dahl
Gary Ramus
retrieve, but I don't know how much time he would put in keeping it trained
and working it. You made a good point about the dog getting challenged. I
think it would spend alot of kennel time. This guy is a good friend of mine
and we hunt on a great spot on the eastern shore together on a marsh that he
has hunted since he was 14 yrs old, but I'm just not sure how much effort
and/or time he would put into a dog.
Gary
Amy Dahl
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> Thanks Stu and Amy for the feedback. This guy wants a dog that will
> retrieve, but I don't know how much time he would put in keeping it trained
> and working it. You made a good point about the dog getting challenged. I
> think it would spend alot of kennel time. This guy is a good friend of mine
> and we hunt on a great spot on the eastern shore together on a marsh that he
> has hunted since he was 14 yrs old, but I'm just not sure how much effort
> and/or time he would put into a dog.
My feeling about Chesapeakes is that they are at their best
when they have plenty of contact with their owner, as well
as mental and physical challenge. They tend to be deeply
devoted. Despite the Lab's reputation as a pet and family
dog, IME Labs are considerably more tolerant of isolation
and inactivity than are Chesapeakes. Of course Labs are
more adaptable in a number of ways.
Gary Ramus
Chessie when I first started looking for dogs, but I knew my training skills
were nothing so I wanted a bit of an easier dog to start. I still think that
a Chessie is one of the best, hardiest dogs there is for waterfowling and I
may come down and see you some day when my labs are to old to hunt and my
kids are older and gone(hopefully) and talk about a Chesapeake.
Thanks again,
Gary
> From: Amy Dahl <a...@oakhillkennel.com>
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> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 16:13:37 GMT
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> Subject: Re: 2 questions
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