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O'Donnell

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Dec 3, 2001, 1:59:01 PM12/3/01
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Does anyone have one? If so, are you pleased with them? Are they good pets
as well as hunters?

Thanks in advance.

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Ron M.

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Dec 5, 2001, 12:38:56 PM12/5/01
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> Does anyone have one? If so, are you pleased with them? Are they good pets
> as well as hunters?

I have a 5 year old spayed chessie bitch, Sally. You can see a couple
of pictures of her at http://www.realtime.net/~ref/sally.html

But before I say anything about chessies, let me point out that dogs,
like people, are individuals. There are exceptions to any rule, and we
can only speak in generalities when I say "chessies are..." Yes,
Rottweilers are typically violently protective, BUT there are
Rottweilers that are meek as kittens. See the point? Now.... that
being said...

Chessies are VERY VERY intelligent. Let me tell you, I've had dogs for
45 years, including labs, border collies, and goldens, and I have
never, never, NEVER had a dog as intelligent as Sally. When I look
into her eyes, I've never in my life seen anything closer to being "a
little person in a fur coat."

For this reason, chessies are often seen as "difficult to train," and
people make stupid statements like "you need a 2 by 4 to train a
chessie." The fact is, they're too intelligent to TOLERATE the usual
dog training methods. How would YOU like some asshole to command you
to "sit" out in the middle of the yard, or stop what you're doing and
command you to come running up to him like some idiot? You're too
intelligent for such silliness, aren't you? You get the point.

You MUST take a chessie's intelligence into consideration in training.
You can NOT use force, or fear, or negative reinforcement - if you do,
a chessie will close up on you and will be ruined as a dog. In fact,
he might just get fed up with your crap and bite the hell out of you.
A lot of chessies have been put down from this kind of situation. What
a waste of fine dogs.

Chessies, more than any other dog, form individual relationships with
people. If a chessie lives with 5 people, he'll have a completely
different relationship with each one. He may worship one person like
a God, and ignore somebody else. Still another person, he may love
dearly, but remain dominant over that person, as you might be with a
small child. The chessie's attitude may be, "I'm your loyal friend to
the death, but that doesn't mean you can walk all over me, I have my
rights and my dignity." I'm serious. This is not a joke.

Chessies have a huge amount of energy, and MUST have daily exercise.
This is NOT a "backyard dog" you take for a little walk twice a week.
In summer, you have to be very, very careful, as a chessie will
retrieve dummies until it drops dead from a heart attack. It will NOT
stop. This is exacerbated by the chessie's extremely thick, insulating
coat. As they say, "an exhausted chessie is a happy chessie," but be
very careful, or your exhausted chessie will be a dead chessie.

Chessies as a rule are VERY devoted and loyal to their owners and
their families. They will usually ignore other dogs and people when
you're out on walks and exercise. Some become angry and growl when
company comes to visit. Many simply will not tolerate children or
other dogs. You can NOT stick a chessie in the back yard and ignore
it; he is a member of your family, and needs to sleep on the floor by
your bed at night.

One of the best sources of information about chessies is at the CBR
Rescue web site at http://www.cbrrescue.org/information.htm If you're
thinking about a chessie, please, PLEASE go to this web site and read
this stuff. It's one of the best sources of chessie information I've
ever read.

It's been an incredible experience having Sally, the past couple of
years. It's been like driving Volkswagens all your life and then
getting a Porsche Turbo. A whole new experience. I've never dealt with
this level of canine intelligence, or seen this level of devotion, or
this depth of man/dog relationship. Chessies are "serious" dogs for
"serious" dog owners. I'd like to see more people get chessies, but
they need to learn about them first, because far, far too many
beautiful chessies end up in kill shelters, given up by the owners as
"too much dog" or "too aggressive" or "uncontrollable" and so on.
Please don't add another dog to this tragedy.

Good hunting,
Ron Morgan
Austin, Texas
(note: the email doesn't work - try r...@bga.com)

Carl Degner

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Dec 10, 2001, 1:59:18 PM12/10/01
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> Chessies are VERY VERY intelligent

This is an understatement. I've had our spayed female for about 17 months.
Get her at 7wks. Whe is without a doubt the smartest dog I have ever seen.

I would not recommend Chessie's for most people because they do not want to put
the time into them. Emma REQUIRES training and exercise time every day.

Another reply mentions the energy of a Chessie ... think a two year old on
steroids.

Are they a dog for everyone, definitely not.
carldives at aol dot com
A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A Tax is a fine for doing well.

R.C. Harpster

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Dec 17, 2001, 12:52:43 PM12/17/01
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I really appreciate your response. You answered all of my questions.

I have a GSP and I am starting to get into water fowl more and more. It is
too cold here (Colorado) to expect a GSP to jump and a cold lake and then
just sit still for hours.

I have heard that Chessies are the most intensely loyal dogs around.

It may be a few year before I get one, but eventually I will.

Thanks again.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron M." <rnm...@HOTMAIL.COM>
Newsgroups: rec.hunting.dogs
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: Chesapeake Bay Retriever


> > Does anyone have one? If so, are you pleased with them? Are they good
pets
> > as well as hunters?
>

rkuntz

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Dec 26, 2001, 12:46:51 PM12/26/01
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>kill shelters<

Interesting term.


I Love Chessies. My Dad said that if you're going have kids and dogs, that you
have to make damn sure that dog's big enough that it doesn't have to bite back and
I've never worried about the kids around ours.

One of em was a 3rd hand dog whose first owner got rid of him because he was
getting mean, i.e. he was chained in the corner of the garage where he couldn't
get to the kids (and play). What a missread, the animal was absolutely
trustworthy, a friend who'd die for you and yours, but thick as a brick mentally.

Our last one, a bitch, was everything the previous male was, plus, a unique thing
about her her stare. She'd look directly into my eyes with hers totaly dialated
and honest to god i think i was physically looking into her mind through the her
retinas.
I've also never have really determined who was the most stubborn, my wife or her
"Willow".

Ray

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