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Brian

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Sep 19, 2003, 4:48:13 PM9/19/03
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My parents live out in the country, and had a Birttany wander up the
other day, and just decided to stay. They live in an area where you
can expect any bird-dog that is wandering around to be someone's
expensive gun dog (whether it was good at it or not). They are going
to put up fliers in the Post Office and see if he's chipped, but it
did make me start thinking about them. I had heard, one time, that
Birtts are the most stuborn and willful of the gun-dogs to try and
train. When I go search on it, there's nothing about that. Am I
making things up (been known to happen)? Is there a segment out there
that believes this? This boy is apparently as sweet and soft as they
come.

Any info is appreciated. I had hoped to eventually be able to get a
gun dog at some point in my life. However, my wife refuses to have a
dog that helps me kill things. Oh well, I will live vicariously
through the images and stories of my friends, and people on this list.

Thanks!
Brian

Larry Caldwell

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Sep 21, 2003, 8:10:22 PM9/21/03
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seb...@YAHOO.COM (Brian) writes:
> My parents live out in the country, and had a Birttany wander up the
> other day, and just decided to stay. They live in an area where you
> can expect any bird-dog that is wandering around to be someone's
> expensive gun dog (whether it was good at it or not). They are going
> to put up fliers in the Post Office and see if he's chipped, but it
> did make me start thinking about them. I had heard, one time, that
> Birtts are the most stuborn and willful of the gun-dogs to try and
> train. When I go search on it, there's nothing about that. Am I
> making things up (been known to happen)? Is there a segment out there
> that believes this? This boy is apparently as sweet and soft as they
> come.

Nope. The willful championship belongs to the Chesapeake, hands down.
Britts are runners, and will drive a couch potato owner crazy by running
off. I bet that's what happened with this Britt. If you ignore one, it
will just take off and find something more interesting. This is a
frequent problem with all pointing breeds. Instead of letting them out
to exercise and going back in for your morning coffee, you have to pull
your jacket on and go with them. The dog will love the company, and be a
biddable companion.

> Any info is appreciated. I had hoped to eventually be able to get a
> gun dog at some point in my life. However, my wife refuses to have a
> dog that helps me kill things. Oh well, I will live vicariously
> through the images and stories of my friends, and people on this list.

Then you should take your wife's car keys away, since cars kill more
animals than hunters every year. My wife is not a hunter and didn't care
for the idea of hunting dogs either, but since we have had a couple she
has grown to appreciate their intelligence and steady disposition.

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croub99

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Sep 22, 2003, 1:31:22 AM9/22/03
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BRITTS ARE THE NEATEST DOG I HAVE EVER HUNTED WITH. I HAVE OWNED LABS, SHORT
HAIRS, SEVERAL OTHER TYPES OF HUNTING K9'S AND THE BRITT HAS OUT PREFORMED
THEM ALL FOR MY TYPE OF HUNTING. (PHEASANT). AS FAR AS BEING BULL JEADED, I
WOULD SAY NOT SO. IF A BRITT WON'T HUNT FOR SOMEONE IT'S BECAUSE THE DOG
JUST DOSEN'T LIKE THEM AND IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

John Osadnick

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Sep 22, 2003, 1:31:23 AM9/22/03
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I am sure there are some good ones out there, but every Brittany I ever knew
was a master at training its master to yell, scream and otherwise exhibit
totally irrational behavior. However, if you spend time teaching them
manners, I bet you can civilize them. But for me, a pointer or setter is so
much more eager to please. Hope the real owner fesses up and gets his
master...


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doug holl

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Sep 22, 2003, 1:31:22 AM9/22/03
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Brits are far from what you described. They are actually one of the more
sensitive, willing gundogs. It sounds like you were describing a Chesapeake
Bay or some other free willed dog (easy i like them too). Brits make great
house dogs, albeit sometimes they have endless energy.

G. M. Zimmermann

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Sep 22, 2003, 1:31:23 AM9/22/03
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>I had heard, one time, that
>Birtts are the most stuborn and willful of the gun-dogs to try and
>train.

I have heard the exact opposite. I have hunted over other people's brittnys
and they have always been obiedient and eager to please. Brittnys seem to be a
bit more playful then most other pointing breeds, like a springer spaniel that
points.

Hamer Paschal

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Sep 22, 2003, 1:31:23 AM9/22/03
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Brian,

My experience has been quite the contrary. I have a 12 month old
Brittany who has been very easy to train. He has practically trained
himself. I have also trained and hunted with GSP's and EP's, but the
Brittany has been the easiest to train.

- Hamer

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Wayne Topa

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Sep 22, 2003, 1:31:24 AM9/22/03
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Brian(seb...@YAHOO.COM) is reported to have said:
> My parents live out in the country, and had a Birttany wander up the
> other day, and just decided to stay. They live in an area where you
> can expect any bird-dog that is wandering around to be someone's
> expensive gun dog (whether it was good at it or not). They are going
> to put up fliers in the Post Office and see if he's chipped, but it
> did make me start thinking about them. I had heard, one time, that
> Birtts are the most stuborn and willful of the gun-dogs to try and
> train. When I go search on it, there's nothing about that. Am I
> making things up (been known to happen)? Is there a segment out there
> that believes this? This boy is apparently as sweet and soft as they
> come.

You will find that Brittanys are one of the most bidable of the
Sporting Breeds. Treat them right and they will do anything for you.
Easy to train and willing to learn. The only problem I have had with
Britts is that I am never satisifed with just one. <G>


Wayne
Patway Brittanys
http://capital.net/~brittman/

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croub99

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Sep 25, 2003, 5:00:24 PM9/25/03
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no such thing as a bullheaded britt

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Brian

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Sep 25, 2003, 5:00:19 PM9/25/03
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Thanks to everyone on the input. I know every individual dog (like
people) have their own personalities. Turns out this one wasn't
chipped, and no one seems to be responding to any fliers, so they
might have a new dog. I understand he's growing on them, anyways.

Thanks again.

Wayne Topa <brit...@CAPITAL.NET> wrote in message news:<20030919225...@dmcom.net>...


> Brian(seb...@YAHOO.COM) is reported to have said:

> > My parents live out in the country, and had a Birttany wander up the
> > other day, and just decided to stay. They live in an area where you
> > can expect any bird-dog that is wandering around to be someone's
> > expensive gun dog (whether it was good at it or not). They are going
> > to put up fliers in the Post Office and see if he's chipped, but it
> > did make me start thinking about them. I had heard, one time, that
> > Birtts are the most stuborn and willful of the gun-dogs to try and
> > train. When I go search on it, there's nothing about that. Am I
> > making things up (been known to happen)? Is there a segment out there
> > that believes this? This boy is apparently as sweet and soft as they
> > come.
>

Gary McQuigg

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Oct 21, 2003, 5:54:01 PM10/21/03
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In article <e0dc6f19.03091...@posting.google.com>,
seb...@YAHOO.COM says...
<SNIP>

> I had heard, one time, that
> Birtts are the most stuborn and willful of the gun-dogs to try and
> train. When I go search on it, there's nothing about that. Am I
> making things up (been known to happen)? Is there a segment out there
> that believes this? This boy is apparently as sweet and soft as they
> come.
>
> Any info is appreciated. I had hoped to eventually be able to get a
> gun dog at some point in my life
<SNIP>
I've been lucky enough to own two, and am too old now to collect another
or I would. They have both been excellent hunters and house dogs. I have
heard of some being gun shy but have never seen it. Both were taken from
the litter to the hunting field. The first on was so small the I'd have
to push her rear over some dead fall.

The only problems I've ever had was with other hunters that had not
worked with dogs. They would set the dog up wind or would waste time
kicking out areas the dog hunted. I have always hunted with a bell on the
dog to keep track of them. The bell stops ringing the dogs on point.

I've learned more about hunting by just watching the dog than from any
other source.

Dude

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Oct 27, 2003, 8:16:23 PM10/27/03
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For my money, the Chesapeake Bay Retriever has the hardest head (maybe he
gets it from his spaniel relatives). When I got my first one, I began to
think he was deaf because he wouldn't react to commands that I KNEW he
should have heard. If anyone with a Chessie disputes this, I'd love to
hear it. If you surf up Chessies, there's plenty on how hard headed THEY
are.

Dana


"Gary McQuigg" <gmcq...@neonramp.com> wrote in message
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> > I had heard, one time, that
> > Birtts are the most stuborn and willful of the gun-dogs to try and
> > train. When I go search on it, there's nothing about that. Am I
> > making things up (been known to happen)? Is there a segment out there
> > that believes this? This boy is apparently as sweet and soft as they
> > come.
> >
> > Any info is appreciated. I had hoped to eventually be able to get a

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