The arms were granted in 1912 as "vert, a harp or, with seven strings
argent, in chief a five-pointed star of the second charged with a trefoil of
the field" with the mottoes "veritati and "fir fer".
Images at http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~peterh/nuiarms/.
Not sure if the chief herald was consulted.
Peter
It really pains me to see a heraldically-illiterate university so
bastardize their arms. Although you'd think I'd be used to it, since
it happens so often.
"Madalch" <tres...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168286178.8...@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
We discussed University College Dublin's 'logoisation' of its arms
before, and it is not surprising to see the National University of
Ireland and now Trinity College Dublin following suit. We past-oriented
chaps are of course irritated by the modern mania for constantly
changing and rebranding things, and as I have observed elsewhere, the
term 'patina of age' probably connotes some sort of disease worthy of
eradication to devotees of modernism. That said, I think that today's
heralds and their artists should seek to emulate the relative simplicity
of early heraldic art, and move away from the excesses of recent
centuries. No offence intended to the lady, but the arms of Margaret
Thatcher are what I have in mind:
http://home.att.net/~numericana/arms/thatcher.htm
Sean Murphy
PS Read the following if you want a bit of a laugh:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/business/business-a-big-cliche-going-forward/2005/07/01/1119724813215.html
PS To preserve balance, I should add that I also have in mind the arms
of President Mary McAleese: http://www.nli.ie/mcaleeses_coats_of_arms.jpg
Sean Murphy
> No offence intended to the lady, but the arms of Margaret
> Thatcher are what I have in mind:
> http://home.att.net/~numericana/arms/thatcher.htm
Those aren't -really- bad at all- two colours and one metal, and a
grand total of three different charges.
Compare them to the arms of the Irish heraldic office (four quarters,
all with different tinctures, plus a chief), or the Royal Arms of
Canada, or the arms of the University of Western Ontario
(http://www.mad-alchemy.com/heraldry/academic/uwo.htm).
>Compare them to the arms of the Irish heraldic office (four quarters,
>all with different tinctures, plus a chief), or the Royal Arms of
>Canada, or the arms of the University of Western Ontario
>(http://www.mad-alchemy.com/heraldry/academic/uwo.htm).
>
The supporters, despite apparently their heads being those of male beasts, have
been emasculated it would seem. Is this out of prudishness or some new fangled
aspect of policial correctness?
--
Guy Stair Sainty
www.chivalricorders.org/index3.htm
Likely both.
One former GG - Romeo LeBlanc apparently thought membered and armed critters
on armorial achievements were rude and so had the lion in the vice-regal
crest dismembered and muted. These parts have since been happily resptored.
It is possible that the same silly and misplaced sentiment infected this
academic institution.
George Lucki
> We discussed University College Dublin's 'logoisation' of its arms before,
> and it is not surprising to see the National University of Ireland and now
> Trinity College Dublin following suit. We past-oriented
Trinity isn't following suit quite yet, I was just pointing out that it is
inevitable.
Peter
> One former GG - Romeo LeBlanc apparently thought membered and armed critters
> on armorial achievements were rude and so had the lion in the vice-regal
> crest dismembered and muted. These parts have since been happily resptored.
> It is possible that the same silly and misplaced sentiment infected this
> academic institution.
This was the version as granted by the CoA, I believe.
What did Robertson Davies say on the subject of supporters?
"In Canada, we geld everything..."