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Peter Constantine  
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 More options May 4, 2:55 pm
Newsgroups: rec.heraldry
From: constant...@xsublime.demon.co.uk (Peter Constantine)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 19:55:20 +0100
Local: Sun, May 4 2008 2:55 pm
Subject: New badge for Queens Park Rangers
Queens Park Rangers (QPR) football club have unveiled their new badge.
The new design follows the very best traditions of sporting pseudo
heraldry:

http://tinyurl.com/6kgzum

QPR say that "The new Crest [sic] combines elements of the Club's
heritage and was designed to encapsulate the past, present and future,
with the famous Hoops being re-integrated into the official identity"

It replaces a somewhat less heraldic but, IMO, a quite elegant monogram
design:

http://tinyurl.com/6el8s3

In August 2007 Formula One tycoons Bernie Ecclestone and Flavio Briatore
acquired the club in a £14m takeover. I wonder how much it cost them to
have the new 'crest' designed and how much more or less it was than the
£12,850 currently charged by the CoA for a grant of corporate arms...

     x

[...thought the crown was a nice touch]


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Turenne  
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 More options May 4, 5:20 pm
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From: Turenne <rick.lich...@virgin.net>
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 14:20:46 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, May 4 2008 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: New badge for Queens Park Rangers
The Earl of Stamford will be turning in his grave....

Richard Lichten


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the_verminator@comcast.ne t  
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 More options May 5, 2:44 am
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From: "the_vermina...@comcast.net" <the_vermina...@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 23:44:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 5 2008 2:44 am
Subject: Re: New badge for Queens Park Rangers
On 4 May, 13:55, constant...@xsublime.demon.co.uk (Peter Constantine)
wrote:

Only two words for the new "crest"

Quel Tacque!
(English translation.... Oh Yuck!"


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ghp95...@yahoo.com  
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 More options May 6, 12:30 pm
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From: ghp95...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:30:59 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, May 6 2008 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: New badge for Queens Park Rangers
On May 4, 11:44 pm, "the_vermina...@comcast.net"

<the_vermina...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Only two words for the new "crest"

> Quel Tacque!
> (English translation.... Oh Yuck!"

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A bit off-topic, but .... is 'quel tacque!' the etymological genesis
of "how tacky!" (i.e., how gauche) in American English?

Thanks,
--Guy Power


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Turenne  
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 More options May 6, 1:39 pm
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From: Turenne <rick.lich...@virgin.net>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 10:39:41 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, May 6 2008 1:39 pm
Subject: Re: New badge for Queens Park Rangers

Guy Power wrote:
>A bit off-topic, but .... is 'quel tacque!' the etymological genesis
>of "how tacky!" (i.e., how gauche) in American English?

The oldest usage of 'tack' is that relating to the nail, which in turn
derives from an ancient Germanic word that is also the origin of the
modern German Zacken, “prong; tooth”, which entered English via the
Old French tache, “fastening, nail”. Latterly a 'tack' was a small
object for affixing or fastening e.g. thumb tack, carpet tack or tin
tack. It may be that because these objects were often used for
remedial fastening, that some items that were shabby or worn were
'tacky'. Going back to your original point: the combination of Old
Frence 'tache' and 'taque' are probably connected.

Richard Lichten


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