Latin translation please
Jerry
I would like a translation of a motto I am using for the new coat of arms I
created.
The motto is : In God We Trust
The coat of arms if you would like to see it is at:
http://home.att.net/~jerryahiebert/coatofarms.htm
Let me know what you think.
Thank You,
Jerry A. Hiebert
Francois R. Velde
>The motto is : In God We Trust
In Deo speramus.
--
François Velde
ve...@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
Heraldry Site: http://www.heraldica.org/
Philip G. Bochanski
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> In medio rec.heraldry aperuit "Jerry" <JerryA...@worldnet.att.net> os
suum:
> >The motto is : In God We Trust
>
> In Deo speramus.
Better to use "In Deo confidimus". "Speramus" means "we hope"; "confidimus"
means "we put our faith in".
BTW I have constructed a website just for this type of request. Check it
out at www.geocities.com/pgbochanski
(Rev.) Philip G. Bochanski
Francois R. Velde
suum:
>Francois R. Velde <velde@heraldica_nospam.org> wrote in message
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>> In medio rec.heraldry aperuit "Jerry" <JerryA...@worldnet.att.net> os
>suum:
>> >The motto is : In God We Trust
>>
>> In Deo speramus.
>
>Better to use "In Deo confidimus". "Speramus" means "we hope"; "confidimus"
>means "we put our faith in".
Judging by the following comparison of citations from Jerome's Vulgate and the
KJV, I think "spero" captures adequately the meaning of "trust in God". It is
used just as much, if not more, than "confido".
2 Samuel 22:3 sperabo in eum
in him will I trust:
2 Kings 18:5 in Domino Deo Israhel speravit
He trusted in the LORD God of Israel;
2 Chron 13:18 quod sperassent in Domino Deo
they relied upon the LORD God
Psalms 2:13 beati omnes qui sperant in eum
Blessed [are] all they that put their trust in him
Psalms 5:12 laetentur omnes qui sperant in te
But let all those that put their trust in thee rejoice
Psalms 7:2 Domine Deus meus in te speravi
O LORD my God, in thee do I put my trust
Psalms 10:2 in Domino speravi
In the LORD put I my trust:
Psalms 15:1 custodi me Deus quoniam speravi in te
Preserve me, O God: for in thee do I put my trust.
Psalms 17:3 sperabo in eo
my God, my strength, in whom I will trust
Psalms 17:31 scutum est omnium sperantium in se
he [is] a buckler to all those that trust in him.
Psalms 24:3 universi qui sperant in te non confundantur
let none that wait on thee be ashamed:
Psalms 24:20 quia speravi in te
for I put my trust in thee.
Psalms 30:2 in te Domine speravi
In thee, O LORD, do I put my trust;
Psalms 30:15: ego autem in te speravi Domine
But I trusted in thee, O LORD
Psalms 30:20 sperantibus in te
for them that trust in thee
Psalms 32:21 quia in nomine sancto eius speravimus
because we have trusted in his holy name
Psalms 36:40 quia speraverunt in eo
because they trust in him
Psalms 39:4 sperabunt in Domino
that man that maketh the LORD his trust
Psalms 51:10 speravi in misericordia Dei
I trust in the mercy of God
Psalms 55:5 in Deo speravi
in God I have put my trust
Psalms 60:5 sperabo in protectione alarum tuarum semper
I will trust in the covert of thy wings
Psalms 63:11 laetabitur iustus in Domino et sperabit in eo
The righteous shall be glad in the LORD, and shall trust in him
Psalms 70:1 in te Domine speravi
In thee, O LORD, do I put my trust
Psalms 140:8 in te speravi
in thee is my trust
Psalms 143:2 in ipso speravi
and [he] in whom I trust;
Isaiah 26:3 in te speravimus
because he trusteth in thee.
Trust ye in the LORD for ever:
Zeph 3:12 sperabunt in nomine Domini
they shall trust in the name of the LORD
Matth 12:21 in nomine eius gentes sperabunt
in his name shall the Gentiles trust
Rom 15:12 in eo gentes sperabunt
in him shall the Gentiles trust
2 Cor 1:10 in quem speramus
in whom we trust
Gal 1:12 qui ante speravimus in Christo
who first trusted in Christ
Eph 1:12 qui ante speravimus in Christo
who first trusted in Christ
Phil 2:19 spero autem in Domino Iesu
I trust in the Lord Jesus
Michael F. McCartney
>Date: 3/24/00 12:39 PM Pacific Standard
>I would like a translation of a motto I am using for the new coat of arms I
>created.
Put this one in a scroll over the crest; then on another scroll beneath the
shield, "...all others pay cash" (sorry - couldn't resist :)
>The coat of arms if you would like to see it is at:
>http://home.att.net/~jerryahiebert/coatofarms.htm
>Let me know what you think.
I looked at your drawing & read the notes. Couple of points: the pierced star
is usually seen to represent a spur rowel, such as a horseman (knight, soldier,
or perhaps even a circuit-riding minister! ) might wear. That doesn't lessen
its symbolic value in your arms, which IMO is mainly as a reference to
umpty-great grandpa's old family arms; but you might think about modifying the
written commentary (or not, as you wish).
The red zig-zag, which you describe as a reference to your family's
occupational connections with electricity, doesn't show up well against a blue
background. Heraldry has a "law" (really more of a rule of thumb) that you
don't put "metal" (gold/yellow or silver/white) on metal, or "color" (red,
blue, black, green, purple) on color, because of the lack of clear visual
contrast - instead we try to put metal on color or vice-versa. (Like most
rules there are a number of exceptions, & the rule was enforced some places &
often ignored in others; but it does have a practical basis & value in visual
clarity, so IMO its worth following as a general practice.)
You might change the red "lightning flashes" to gold/yellow, which increases
the visual contrast greatly & even looks more "electric" (to me at least). Or,
if you strongly want red, consider "fimbrating" it (heraldic term meaning to
outline it in a contrasting color or metal - in this case, yellow or white
(gold or silver) to set it off against the blue field (background).
It will look more "heraldic" (and IMO be easier for the average person to
recognize) if you stylize the lightning flashes a bit - rather than irregular
zig-zag, a more even, symmetrical pattern of three stylized lightning flashes
"in pall" (i.e. coming together in a "Y" form - named after the pall worn by a
priest - which in your case is a nice extra bit of symbolism!).
The cross & broken arrow are good symbols of your family's history & faith; &
the colors (metal & color actually :) contrast nicely.
The resulting blazon (heraldic description) mught be "Azure [blue] three
lightning flashes conjoined in pall Or [gold or yellow] between in chief a
cross flory Argent [white or silver], in dexter base a spur-rowel Argent, and
in sinister base a broken arrow Or"
alternatively, if you want the lightning to be red, "Azure [blue] three
lightning flashes conjoined in pall Gules [red] fimbrated Or [gold or yellow]
between in chief a cross flory Argent [white or silver], in dexter base a
spur-rowel Argent, and in sinister base a broken arrow Or"
Michael Fannin McCartney
Fremont, California
j...@inr.net
On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 18:00:13 -0600, Francois R. Velde
<velde@heraldica_nospam.org> wrote:
>In medio rec.heraldry aperuit "Jerry" <JerryA...@worldnet.att.net> os suum:
>>The motto is : In God We Trust
>
>In Deo speramus.
marty....@gmail.com
> Hello, I would like a translation of a motto I am using for the new coat of arms I created.The motto is : In God We TrustThe coat of arms if you would like to see it is at: http://home.att.net/~jerryahiebert/coatofarms.htm Let me know what you think.Thank You,Jerry A. Hiebert
I pray this shall be well received with joy and goodness of heart.
2 Samuel 22:3 I hope in him
I hope in him;
2 Kings 18:5 He trusted in the Lord God of Israel,
He trusted in the Lord God of Israel:
2 Chronicles 13:18 trusted in the Lord God quod
they had trusted in the Lord God
Psalm 2:13 Blessed are all they that put their trust in him
Blessed [from] all they that put their trust in him
Psalms 5:12 He who put their trust in thee: let them sing all of them,
But let all be glad that hope in thee
Psalms 7:2 O LORD my God, in Thee have I hoped
O Lord my God, in you I take refuge
Psalms 10:2 hoped in the Lord
Lord gave me for me:
Psalms 15:1 For God keep me, I put my trust in thee
Deliver me, O Lord, for I have hoped in thee.
Psalms 17:3 I will trust in him
My God, my helper and I hope
Psalms 17:31 R. is the shield of trust in him
that [is] a buckler to all them that trust in him.
Psalms 24:3 Let them be confounded that put their trust in the universe that you are not
them that wait on thee shall be confounded is;
Psalms 24:20, because we trust in you
For my hope is in you.
Psalms 30:2 In thee, O Lord, have I hoped
In thee, O Lord, have I hoped;
Psalms 30:15: but as for me, I put my trust in thee, O Lord,
But I have put my trust in thee, O Lord;
Psalms 30:20 who hope in you
for those who trust in you
Psalms 32:21 For in the name of St. his trusted
trust in Him
Psalms 39:4 hope in the Lord
, A man that puts his trust in the Lord
Psalms 51:10 trust in the mercy of God
Trust in the mercy of God
Psalms 55:5 In God we trust
I put my trust in God
Psalms 60:5 I will trust in the protection of your wings Always
I will trust in the shelter of your wings
Psalms 63:11 Just rejoice in the Lord and hope in Him
Righteous man shall be glad in the Lord, and shall hope in him
Psalms 70:1 In thee, O Lord, have I hoped
In you, Lord, I have hoped
Psalms 140:8 They shall put my trust in you
I put my trust in you
Psalms 143:2 and in whom I trust
for the purpose you.
Trust in the Lord forever
Zeph 3:12 trust in the name of the Lord
and trust in the name of the Lord
Matthew 12:21 trust in the name of his gentes
and his name shall
Romans 15:12 in him shall
in him shall the
2 Corinthians 1:10 in whom we trust
in whom we trust
He who first trusted in Christ Galatians 1:12
who first trusted in Christ;
Ephesians 1:12 He who first trusted in Christ
who first trusted in Christ;
Philippians 2:19 But I trust in the Lord Jesus,
I trust in the Lord Jesus,
marty....@gmail.com
> Hello, I would like a translation of a motto I am using for the new coat of arms I created.The motto is : In God We TrustThe coat of arms if you would like to see it is at: http://home.att.net/~jerryahiebert/coatofarms.htm Let me know what you think.Thank You,Jerry A. Hiebert
In truth I think you should consider the motto "We trust in God." The Latin translation renders We trust in God Speramus in Deum.
In greater detail consider:
sper.amus V 1 1 PRES ACTIVE IND 1 P
spero, sperare, speravi, speratus V [XXXAX]
hope for; trust; look forward to; hope;
in PREP ABL
in PREP ABL [XXXAX]
in, on, at (space); in accordance with/regard to/the case of; within (time);
in PREP ACC
in PREP ACC [XXXAX]
into; about, in the mist of; according to, after (manner); for; to, among;
de.um N 2 1 ACC S M
Deus, Dei N M [XEXAO]
God (Christian text); god; divine essence/being, supreme being; statue of god;
*
http://www.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wordz.pl?keyword=Speramus+in+Deum
or in verse
We
[XXXAX]
we (pl.), us;
convenit V IMPERS 3 4 IMPERS [XXXCO]
it agrees/came together/is agreed/asserted; [bene ~ nobis=>we're on good terms];
sper.amus V 1 1 PRES ACTIVE IND 1 P
spero, sperare, speravi, speratus V [XXXAX]
hope for; trust; look forward to; hope;
de.um N 2 1 ACC S M
Deus, Dei N M [XEXAO]
God (Christian text); god; divine essence/being, supreme being; statue of god;
*
http://www.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/words.exe?Speramus+Deum
marty....@gmail.com
> Hello, I would like a translation of a motto I am using for the new coat of arms I created.The motto is : In God We TrustThe coat of arms if you would like to see it is at: http://home.att.net/~jerryahiebert/coatofarms.htm Let me know what you think.Thank You,Jerry A. Hiebert
I really like the idea our trust in God comes from our hope to trust God because of the goodness and love we have in our hearts. In other words, because we hope to trust God and love God, we hope God will trust us with Spiritual treasure.
I am trying to open your page, I even tried "ephphatha" and it simply disconnected :-)
I would like to see your coat of arms can you email me a picture to
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Turenne
> On Friday, March 24, 2000 1:00:00 AM UTC-7, Jerry wrote:
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> > Hello, I would like a translation of a motto I am using for the new coat of arms I created.The motto is : In God We TrustThe coat of arms if you would like to see it is at: http://home.att.net/~jerryahiebert/coatofarms.htm Let me know what you think.Thank You,Jerry A. Hiebert
>
RL
Andrew Chaplin
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