has anyone seen this?
quisling
I was not aware the Cronista de Armas was out of business.
This looks a lot like British Feudal Investments
Zdenek Kucera
Yes, this looks like work of unscrupulous lawyer. As I understand,
client - victim go to arbitration court with claim, that he is
"rightful lord" and of course, win.
Zdenek Kucera
rw
having been appointed. I remember askign Francois if he'd seen anything, but
he hadn't.
--R.
"quisling" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:sr8Nj.104$8U1...@newsfe06.lga...
Nathaniel Taylor
<f74b521c-8547-4d5d...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
Zdenek Kucera <yop...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://www.spanisharmorial.com/
>
> Yes, this looks like work of unscrupulous lawyer. As I understand,
> client - victim go to arbitration court with claim, that he is
> "rightful lord" and of course, win.
The website looks to be the venture of Juan Manuel Castro Valle,
apparently a lawyer, of La Coruna, Spain. It is stated on the site that
the outfit has an English office or partner and can meet clients in
England. If there is an English partner it is not clear who it might
be. However, the site's 'links' page fingers one single English
business: an embroiderer of heraldic pillows, apparently based at 2a
Aldebert Terrace, London, but whose website is registered to one Mark
Young, of Tunbridge Wells, Kent.
The spanisharmorial.com site very baldly asserts that it does not sell
any title; it merely provides services leading to court judgments
affirming the title--with successful outcome *guaranteed*.
Cheeky to offer a complete guarantee of success in a civil suit before
it is undertaken. Perhaps there is a judge and not merely an advocate
involved in this business?
Nat Taylor
a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://www.nltaylor.net/sketchbook/
Joseph McMillan
> http://www.spanisharmorial.com/
>
> I was not aware the Cronista de Armas was out of business.
>
Joseph McMillan
Nobilitynews.com
"(...) the Title and the Fons Honorum will be recognised and confirmed
by a Court Ruling issued by a European Court of Justice. Succesful
outcome is guaranteed."
Looks impossible. http://curia.europa.eu/en/instit/presentationfr/index_cje.htm
http://www.spanisharmorial.com/FonsHonorum.html:
Fount of Honour: Ancient Titles with Fons Honorum:
We are able to offer to selected customers the possibility of
obtaining Ancient European Nobility Titles with Fons Honorum. Both the
Title and the Fons Honorum will be recognised and confirmed by a Court
Ruling issued by a European Court of Justice. Succesful outcome is
guaranteed.
This means we are able to provide our customers with the necessary
tools and the right legal frame to issue nobility titles worldwide
within a frame of strict legality.
Only people willing to identify themselves properly and make
meaningful enquiries will be taken into consideration. This is a very
exclusive service, and only people of wealth and means should apply.
Procedure:
1. Following informal agreement on the particular title you require, a
6000 EURO booking fee will be transferred to the Solicitor's Account by
BACS.
2. Signature of the Contract, Documents and Powers of Attorney
necessary to carry out the legal work on your behalf and start the
proceedings. At the signature of the contract there is to transfer
the 50% of the fees to the Solicitor's Account by BACS.
3. The remaining fees shall be settled within the end of the service,
at the end of the Judicial Activity, when the Court Ruling is issued
and ready to be delivered and Gazetted.
like British Feudal Investments
StephenP
>
> like British Feudal Investments
Not a good example to cite.
mj...@btinternet.com
> "(...) the Title and the Fons Honorum will be recognised and confirmed
> by a Court Ruling issued by a European Court of Justice. Succesful
> outcome is guaranteed."
> Looks impossible.http://curia.europa.eu/en/instit/presentationfr/index_cje.htm
Here's one tried and true way:
1. Get a mate to say in the pub one evening, "That Jack, he's not the
Prince of Balderdasho!"
2. Sue him for defamation in the local court.
3. Have your mate submit an apology when it comes to the hearing,
admitting that he was wrong.
4. Get an order that he pay your legal costs (you will reimburse him,
of course).
5. Wave the judgment to the world, stating it is a court order priving
you are the Prince afterall.
6. Start a website selling fake Viscountcies to idiots.
Voila!
MA-R
mj...@btinternet.com
> In article
> <f74b521c-8547-4d5d-848f-b84de1849...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Zdenek Kucera <yop...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.spanisharmorial.com/
>
> > Yes, this looks like work of unscrupulous lawyer. As I understand,
> > client - victim go to arbitration court with claim, that he is
> > "rightful lord" and of course, win.
>
> The website looks to be the venture of Juan Manuel Castro Valle,
> apparently a lawyer, of La Coruna, Spain.
Aha - a Corunista of Arms?
MA-R
Nathaniel Taylor
<nltaylor-228358...@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
Nathaniel Taylor <nlta...@nltaylor.net> wrote:
> In article
> <f74b521c-8547-4d5d...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Zdenek Kucera <yop...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > http://www.spanisharmorial.com/
> >
> > Yes, this looks like work of unscrupulous lawyer. As I understand,
> > client - victim go to arbitration court with claim, that he is
> > "rightful lord" and of course, win.
>
> The website looks to be the venture of Juan Manuel Castro Valle,
> apparently a lawyer, of La Coruna, Spain. It is stated on the site that
> the outfit has an English office or partner and can meet clients in
> England. If there is an English partner it is not clear who it might
> be. However, the site's 'links' page fingers one single English
> business: an embroiderer of heraldic pillows, apparently based at 2a
> Aldebert Terrace, London, but whose website is registered to one Mark
> Young, of Tunbridge Wells, Kent.
It may be coincidence that there appears to be an attorney of that name
at Tunbridge Wells, specializing in divorce mediation. Perhaps he's
looking to expand from that sphere into fake-title affirmation, by way
of heraldic pillows? The mind boggles.
Peter Constantine
> "(...) the Title and the Fons Honorum will be recognised and confirmed by
> a Court Ruling issued by a European Court of Justice. Succesful outcome is
> guaranteed."
>
> Looks impossible.
> http://curia.europa.eu/en/instit/presentationfr/index_cje.htm
Perhaps a European court of justice need not necessarily mean THE
European Court of Justice (Court of Justice of the European
Communities)?
x
gra...@gmilne.demon.co.uk
Where can I buy one of these viscountcies?
mj...@btinternet.com
Greg
> Anyone knows how this works?
> "(...) the Title and the Fons Honorum will be recognised and confirmed
> by a Court Ruling issued by a European Court of Justice. Succesful
> outcome is guaranteed."
Okay, so I'm a little confused: Since it has been shown by experts
that the selling of nobilty titles is a fraudulent practice - anywhere
in Europe, and that the unfortunatre people who provide [sellers] with
good sums of money are in fact victims of a scam, how is it that your
Nobility Titles can come out here and expect to be even considered as
legitimate.
I don't get it.
Enlighten me. Make me believe you.
Dr. Talon Macleod
The site shown above has no connection with the late Don Vicente de
Cadenas y Vicent who passed away some time ago. If you had known the
gentleman you would not even entertain the thought that it ever could.
Dr. Talon Macleod
quisling
What really puzzles me is this: I have kings, dukes, counts, earls,
knights, and even a saint in my ancestry. One ancestor held the title
"Count of Anjou." For a moment, assume there is no one holding that
title now. Now assume there is no Count of Anjou in my lineage. Why on
earth would I think having copious amounts of cash give me the right to
hold it????
WILLIAM BALDWIN JR
> Nathaniel Taylor wrote:> What really puzzles me is this: I have kings,
> ancestor held the title "Count of Anjou." For a moment, assume there is no
> one holding that title now. Now assume there is no Count of Anjou in my
> lineage. Why on earth would I think having copious amounts of cash give
> me the right to hold it????
Tradition. As long as the money is paid to the right person, discreetly, and
with the right rationale. At one time, it could even be blatant.
--
William Baldwin, Jr
MBA HCM program Univ of Phoenix
Ground below Zero, City of New Orleans, La
on the web: www.coastguardauxiliaryslidell8cr.us
Nathaniel Taylor
"WILLIAM BALDWIN JR" <wjba...@charter.net> wrote:
> "quisling" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:%hNOj.2220$gU3....@newsfe02.lga...
> > Nathaniel Taylor wrote:> What really puzzles me is this: I have kings,
> > dukes, counts, earls, knights, and even a saint in my ancestry. One
> > ancestor held the title "Count of Anjou." For a moment, assume there is no
> > one holding that title now. Now assume there is no Count of Anjou in my
> > lineage. Why on earth would I think having copious amounts of cash give
> > me the right to hold it????
>
> Tradition. As long as the money is paid to the right person, discreetly, and
> with the right rationale. At one time, it could even be blatant.
Just like to point out that I wrote none of the words quoted in William
Baldwin's message. And the point of the scam that started this thread
is that there needs be no money actually paid for the title, no
discretion, and no rationale: it's just a setup, to get an obscure
European court to release a finding that so-and-so is entitled to
such-and-such a title. What the title is, whether it was ever real, and
who held it, is irrelevant. It could as well be Count of Anjou, King of
Man, or Hereditary Sergeant of the Pastry to the King of Judea.
gra...@gmilne.demon.co.uk
> In article <R1uPj.132$7k2....@newsfe02.lga>,
I hope you are not being rude about my friend, the Hereditary Sergeant
of the Pastry to the King of Judea.
Graham