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fatso

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Dec 19, 2008, 5:27:00 PM12/19/08
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http://s269.photobucket.com/albums/jj51/swiniopas/?action=view&current=SNB11944.jpg

The links above are to my pride and joy, a 1893 silver tea service in the pristine condition.
I called it The Admiral's set as the squarish design was ideal for storage in some side
cupboards on a rolling ship. The Royal Navy at its apogee at the time the set was meant
to bring fear of God into various rajas and princes lucky to be invited to take tea with the
Captain and no doubt made very much aware that the cruiser does carry a long range
guns. To this effect a splendid crest was made to grace each piece. British Lion, crowned
and using both his claws and the sword in other paw to make a mincemeat from the
restless natives. With inner eye of my imagination I can see the invited local worthy
being served tea with this maritime crest stuck under his nose.

My question: from the appearance of this crest can we surmise the rank of the officer,
priviledged to have it at his disposal?

fatso

Turenne

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Dec 19, 2008, 6:55:12 PM12/19/08
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Here's a pic of a naval officer's cap badgewhich is very similar to
your design. The badge was standard for officers of all ranks:

http://www.silvermans.co.uk/ProductDetails/tabid/89/Department/Military/Category/BADGES/Description/NAVAL+OFFICER+CAP+BADGE/ItemId/641/Default.aspx

Nice tea set...

Richard

fatso

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Dec 19, 2008, 7:09:13 PM12/19/08
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yep, the Crown, the laurel leaves, the anchor- all there
but where is the British Lion engaged in jingoistic scratchin and making
peace amongst
its enemies with the short marine cutlass?
Probably PC has killed it nowadays.

BTW. I worship this tea set, would not dream of using it for anything
else but display.
Thanks

fatso

Joseph McMillan

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Dec 19, 2008, 8:58:48 PM12/19/08
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On Dec 19, 7:09 pm, fatso <fatso60...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Turenne wrote:
> > Here's a pic of a naval officer's cap badgewhich is very similar to
> > your design. The badge was standard for officers of all ranks:
>
> >http://www.silvermans.co.uk/ProductDetails/tabid/89/Department/Milita...

>
> > Nice tea set...
>
> > Richard
>
> yep, the Crown, the laurel leaves, the anchor- all there
> but where is the British Lion engaged in jingoistic scratchin and making
> peace amongst
>  its enemies with the short marine cutlass?
> Probably PC has killed it nowadays.
>
> BTW. I worship this tea set, would not dream of using it for anything
> else but display.
> Thanks
>
> fatso

The crest shown is that of Trinity House, the English authority for
lighthouses and other navigational aids and deep sea pilotage. See
http://www.portland-royalmanor.co.uk/Trinity_House_Coat_of_Arms_reduced.jpg.
Combined with the anchor bendwise within the laurel wreath, it is the
cap badge of the Trinity House Pilot Service, visible at
http://www.portcities.org.uk/london/upload/img_400/H3079.jpg. Sorry,
no native chieftains being intimidated by this lion aboard an RN
cruiser.

Joseph McMillan

fatso

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Dec 20, 2008, 1:26:47 AM12/20/08
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Joseph McMillan wrote:
> The crest shown is that of Trinity House, the English authority for
> lighthouses and other navigational aids and deep sea pilotage. See
> http://www.portland-royalmanor.co.uk/Trinity_House_Coat_of_Arms_reduced.jpg.
> Combined with the anchor bendwise within the laurel wreath, it is the
> cap badge of the Trinity House Pilot Service, visible at
> http://www.portcities.org.uk/london/upload/img_400/H3079.jpg. Sorry,
> no native chieftains being intimidated by this lion aboard an RN
> cruiser.
>
> Joseph McMillan
>

Thanks Joseph, yours is obviously the correct answer. I must have been
carried away with
the memory of that splendid fast cruiser, HMS Hood. Its role was just
such a showmanship
in foreign ports of call and the tea set of this quality would serve it
as well as the long range
artillery on board. Unfortunately when the stout Jerry with its
tankard beer mugs for one man
upmanship, aboard the pocket battleship Bismarck came along, the Hood
was blown to
smithereens. Still it is a consoling thought that both my tea set and
the one destined for Hood,
did retail in the same outlet, that splendid Army&Navy store.

fatso

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