Fake US Marine Medals Update

[Greg]

A few weeks ago, I posted a story about a California man who had gone
to his High School reunion dressed as aMarine Sgt with a chest full of
medals - - it was all fake. Here's an update:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/12/16/BAV01B5CJJ.DTL&tsp=1

[Turenne]

On Dec 17, 3:34 pm, Greg <scoti...@comcast.net> wrote:
> A few weeks ago, I posted a story about a California man who had gone
> to his High School reunion dressed as aMarine Sgt with a chest full of

> medals - - it was all fake.  Here's an update:http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/12/16/BAV01B5CJ...

Much the same just happened here in the UK:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Fake-War-Veterans-Walk-Of-Shame-Medal-Of-Dishonour-During-Remembrance-Day-Parade/Article/200912115491953?f=rss

Richard L

[Greg]

On 17 Dec, 10:11, Turenne <rick.lich...@virgin.net> wrote:
> On Dec 17, 3:34 pm, Greg <scoti...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > A few weeks ago, I posted a story about a California man who had gone
> > to his High School reunion dressed as aMarine Sgt with a chest full of
> > medals - - it was all fake.  Here's an update:http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/12/16/BAV01B5CJ...
>
> Much the same just happened here in the UK:
>

> http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Fake-War-Veterans-Walk-Of-Sh...
>
> Richard L

Wow. That's really public. I wonder how event planners and real
veterans, when forming up didn't challenge him real early on. What
knid of penalties can this guy expect?

The reason I even bring it up is with respect to this Baron Short
individual: it seems that the authorities would caught on to him as
well and aressted him already. I don't understand why he's still out
ther. And does he also boast a coat of arms? If so, from where do
they originate?

[Turenne]

Greg wrote:
>
> Wow.  That's really public.  I wonder how event planners and real
> veterans, when forming up didn't challenge him real early on.  What
> knid of penalties can this guy expect?

They caught him pretty quickly and I believe that he is going to be
prosecuted. Apart from the fact that he was wearing decorations from
wars he couldn't have taken part in; he was wearing two rows of medals
which is a no-no in this country. Here's how multiple decorations
should be worn:

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gac.culture.gov.uk/gac_images/Fullsize/03979.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gac.culture.gov.uk/search/Object.asp%3Fobject_key%3D17994&h=400&w=296&sz=25&tbnid=dEyCWWHc-yxt5M:&tbnh=124&tbnw=92&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dearl%2Bmountbatten&usg=__544eQAESj82NiZ0jRQxEDk-i9IA=&ei=gqcqS_nyMYO8jAeNzYGkBw&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=7&ct=image&ved=0CCEQ9QEwBg

Here's a list of the medals he was wearing:

Winged dagger of the SAS and a special forces' veteran badge
Military Cross, with bar signifying Queen's Commendation for Valuable
Service
Distinguished Service Order (DSO), including bar for Mentioned in
Dispatches
Foreign cross, thought to be Polish
Queen's Commendation Medal
Military Medal, the rank version of the Military Cross for privates
Distinguished Service Medal
Meritous Service Medal
Campaign Service Medal.
South Atlantic Medal for the Falklands
Gulf Medal for the first Gulf War
Accumulated Service Medal - worn back to front
Saudi Arabian Medal for the liberation of Kuwait and the Kuwaiti
Liberation Medal
1st/2nd? WW? and unknown foreign medals

>
> The reason I even bring it up is with respect to this Baron Short
> individual: it seems that the authorities would caught on to him as
> well and aressted him already.  I don't understand why he's still out
> ther.  And does he also boast a coat of arms?  If so, from where do
> they originate?

ARSSE keep regular tabs on him. It's well worth reading the comments
on their forum.

http://www.arrse.co.uk/Search2.html?cx=partner-pub-1565181133397583%3Awns3st-6tin&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=CASTLESHORT&sa=Search&siteurl=www.arrse.co.uk%2FSearch2.html&siteurl=www.arrse.co.uk%2FSearch2.html&siteurl=www.arrse.co.uk%2FSearch2.html#1018

Richard L

[ArtyO]

On Dec 17, 11:34 am, Greg <scoti...@comcast.net> wrote:
> A few weeks ago, I posted a story about a California man who had gone
> to his High School reunion dressed as aMarine Sgt with a chest full of

> medals - - it was all fake.  Here's an update:http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/12/16/BAV01B5CJ...

Thanks for the original story and updates Greg.
Very interesting.
I think the name “Stolen Valor” Act is most appropriate. Many of my
American acquaintances have had the 'Stop Loss' put on their
contracts, or brought back up to active service after being out of the
regular force for over 20 years and sent overseas for over a year at a
time. Their selfless acts of courage, unsought after, to do their duty
for their country is my litmus test against scum like Martinez or
“Bogus” Short. Most of the time there is little to say except to
shake your head in disgust.

Capt Stephen Chledowski

[Peter Constantine]

Richard L wrote:

> They caught him pretty quickly and I believe that he is going to be
> prosecuted.

Any idea with what offence he's to be charged? Behaviour likely to cause
a breach of the peace, perhaps?

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[Turenne]

Peter Constantine wrote:

>Any idea with what offence he's to be charged? Behaviour likely to cause
>a breach of the peace, perhaps?

Ha Ha! I'm not sure.

Hinckley Ex-Servicemen’s Club has launched an investigation. Secretary
Paul Savage said: ‘If he has been wearing medals he is not entitled to
he will be facing a £1,000 fine and he will be thrown out of the club.

Maybe that's as far as it goes. Mr Day (the fake) has had a pretty
humiliating time of things; he's probably been punished enough
already.

Richard

[Peter Constantine]

Richard wrote:

Apparently not. Today he's been sentenced to 60 hours community service
for 'unlawfully using military decoration' - an offence under the 1955
Army Act.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/coventry_warwickshire/8454415.stm

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