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VA3KC

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Sep 10, 2000, 4:00:12 PM9/10/00
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Hello,

I'm am recently the proud owner of a 70' free-standing tower and a Mosley
Pro57B. I've been working up to this installation for years and I'm having
a blast! Unfortunately, so are the local birds and my cedar deck is now
covered in bird crap!

I'd appreciate some helpful hints from anyone who has solved this problem!

Many thanks in advance...

Casey
VA3KC
va...@home.com


Barry D

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Sep 10, 2000, 4:12:53 PM9/10/00
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VA3KC <va...@home.com> wrote in message
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Hi Casey,

I talk on VE3MOT all the time and certainly appreciate the fine job you have
done keeping that machine on the air! I too have had to deal with of bird
poop. Go to Home Depot and rent a power washer and clean up the bird dung.
Next try a plastic owl up there on the tower that should help. If they get
use to the owl then put vaseline on the parts they are sitting on and they
will not like that to much.
Usually the Owl works.


Barry
VA3BJD


BD

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Sep 10, 2000, 4:26:36 PM9/10/00
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Do what the biz's have done around here.. Get plastic owls.. Once they are
put up, there is no on-going cost or labor, as with just about any other
solution, and they seem to work pretty well..

Hmm.. My place-of-work actually just got a couple beach-balls with giant
owl-eyes on 'em which worked just as well, but didn't stay aired up for very
long, which would seem to indicate that just about anything might work, just
in case you can't find the plastic owls.. Possibly just plaques on each side
of the tower with the owl-eyes painted on or something similar..
Be careful, tho.. Might get some religious org after you for putting giant
eyes up there.. ;)

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'Doc

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Sep 10, 2000, 7:14:14 PM9/10/00
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Casey,
Try the owl. Might also try a snake, heard of that working too.
'Doc

Keith Wood

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Sep 10, 2000, 8:31:31 PM9/10/00
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VA3KC wrote:
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> Hello,
>
> I'm am recently the proud owner of a 70' free-standing tower and a Mosley
> Pro57B. I've been working up to this installation for years and I'm having
> a blast! Unfortunately, so are the local birds and my cedar deck is now
> covered in bird crap!
>
> I'd appreciate some helpful hints from anyone who has solved this problem!

Max legal power. After a while, birds will stop being a problem, and
the cats will be fat.

You can also try a plastic owl on a weathervane.

Richard Crowley

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Sep 10, 2000, 9:04:26 PM9/10/00
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Around here many people find that the birds get used to
the plastic owls after a while and ignore them. Plastic
snakes are sometimes also effective (at least for a while.)

I've seen applications where they put up garlands of wire
spikes about 2 inches long spaced about 1-2 inches apart.
They don't have to be sharp (you don't want skewered
fowl hanging from your tower!), they are just there to
discourage the birds from alighting.

I don't know if this stuff is available commercially and it
might be too much to put it on all the horizontal surfaces
on a tower. And then you have to worry about how to
climb the thing without sticking your feet or bendint the
spikes.

Have you tried ultrasonic noise?

Richard

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BD

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Sep 11, 2000, 5:50:05 PM9/11/00
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That's not been the case at all around here (the dfw area, where I've no
idea how birds learn what owls look like.. I've only seen a couple here in
all the yrs I've been alive) at all.... My company, for example, has had the
owls over the parking lot for.. who knows.. 5-10yrs.. and before them.. the
cars would almost require a car-wash sometimes just to get home because of
the birds 'roosting' in the telephone poles.. Since then, it's been a "rare
bird, indeed" to find any bird-cr*p on the vehicles at all.. It's the same
with a cell-phone tower over here near my house. You'd expect to see some
birds up there.. Not so, tho, since they installed the owls.. Hmm.. I assume
they're owls, since I can barely see 'em way up there...

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rh...@negabits.net

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Sep 12, 2000, 8:24:16 AM9/12/00
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I have thought about "Birdshot" but I have conservative neighbors.

Bob


W4JLE

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Sep 12, 2000, 8:37:07 AM9/12/00
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Go to the next gun show in town, someone there will be selling the Chinese
single shot pellet gun for around $20.00. This little beauty sends a pellet
on it's way at about 800FPS with a single pump. Deadly accurate and nearly
silent. I have pelted coyotes in the hindparts at 50 yards and you could
still hear them yelping for the next 10 minutes.

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Keith Wood

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Sep 12, 2000, 7:50:56 PM9/12/00
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Conservative neighbors should be no problem.

It's those whiny LIBERAL neighbors who will have a hissy fit.

Martin D. or Tunisia G. WADE

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Sep 12, 2000, 7:46:35 PM9/12/00
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Problem with the next gun show in town, our friend lives in CANADA which
frowns on gun shows.

Keith Wood

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Sep 12, 2000, 9:07:33 PM9/12/00
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"Martin D. or Tunisia G. WADE" wrote:
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> W4JLE wrote:
> >
> > Go to the next gun show in town, someone there will be selling the Chinese
> > single shot pellet gun for around $20.00.

> Problem with the next gun show in town, our friend lives in CANADA which
> frowns on gun shows.

That's too bad.

Dwight Stewart

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Sep 12, 2000, 11:10:01 PM9/12/00
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W4JLE wrote:
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> Go to the next gun show in town,
> someone there will be selling the Chinese
> single shot pellet gun for around $20.00.


Better yet, if you have a Walmart nearby, just go get the Gamo P-23
pellet pistol. With round lead shot (included, more from Gamo), it is
highly accurate and very powerful (420fps). With a half hour of
practice, you can easily hit a small animal at fifty to sixty feet. You
can even get a laser sight if you need more accuracy (
www.gamo.com/ushome.html ).

I use it for pest control all the time. At typical distances, it does
no great harm to the animal, but stings like heck.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net

BD

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Sep 12, 2000, 11:14:45 PM9/12/00
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It's not going to harm coax and/or smaller elements?...

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Dwight Stewart

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Sep 12, 2000, 11:17:42 PM9/12/00
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Dwight Stewart wrote:
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> Better yet, if you have a Walmart
> nearby, just go get the Gamo P-23
> pellet pistol.


By the way, the Gamo P-23 is a 15 shot repeater (with round lead
shot). In other words, this repeater will fire 15 shots, without
reloading, as fast as you can squeeze the trigger. Therefore, if you
miss the target with the first shot, you have 14 more to get the job done.

Wes Stewart

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Sep 13, 2000, 1:34:27 AM9/13/00
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 04:35:35 GMT, Patrick Jankowiak
<vaxha...@REPLTILEatt.net.> wrote:

>My dad was in the air force, and was tired of cleaning bird crap off
>the tain fin of his plane. He and his buddies solved the problen by
>gluing thumbtacks on the top of the fin.
>
Obviously he wasn't stationed in Arizona, where the state bird is the cactus
wren.

N7WS

Dwight Stewart

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Sep 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/14/00
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BD wrote:
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> It's not going to harm coax and/or smaller elements?...


Heh. Heh. The odds of hitting the coax or smaller elements is a lot
smaller than hitting a small bird. Aim carefully.

Terrence R. Redding, Ph.D.

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Sep 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/14/00
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Put up a statue of a great horned owl on the antenna - that should keep them
away. Another solution may be to hang strips of cloth from the antenna and
tower - one Expedition did that.

Hope the suggestions help.

Terry - W6LMJ

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Gary Coffman

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Sep 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/21/00
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 20:00:12 GMT, "VA3KC" <va...@home.com> wrote:
>I'm am recently the proud owner of a 70' free-standing tower and a Mosley
>Pro57B. I've been working up to this installation for years and I'm having
>a blast! Unfortunately, so are the local birds and my cedar deck is now
>covered in bird crap!
>
>I'd appreciate some helpful hints from anyone who has solved this problem!

The best solution I've found for this problem is to slip pieces of thin wall
poly pipe over the antenna elements. Bird lands, pipe rotates, bird falls off.
Funny as hell.

Gary
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