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selway...@yahoo.com  
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 More options Dec 26 2004, 7:24 pm
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From: selway...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 00:24:28 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sun, Dec 26 2004 7:24 pm
Subject: Movie "Collateral"
Was refreshing to see an actor with some good gun handling. Cruise got
some good instruction and used it in the movie. But, he did the same
thing in "Last Samurai".
Watch his smooth draw and presentation, and just as nice, his
holstering his piece without looking or fumbling. It was very much like
Chuck Taylors methods but I didn't recognize the guy who did the
training. Perhaps he was one of Chucks old students?
No matter, the movie was entertaining and I thought Cruise did a
credible job. I'm not especially a fan of his but he did well. The
director of the movie went to lengths to make it a good one in a number
of areas.
What do you think?

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 More options Dec 27 2004, 6:09 pm
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:09:49 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Mon, Dec 27 2004 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: Movie "Collateral"
  I jsut saw the movie last night. I did not pay attention to the gun handling
as I was just enjoying the movie. I was impressed by his slapping the gun aside
the thug had on him after robbing the cabbi then drawing and double tapping the
perp then his side kick who Cruise had to assume might be armed and dangerous
too. Then the Classic one shot to finish the first perp off as he walks over
his moaning body without blinking an eye LOL

 Brutal man brutal!!!

 Mike

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 More options Dec 28 2004, 7:49 am
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From: "Bob The Nailer" <beretta...@prodigy.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:49:51 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Dec 28 2004 7:49 am
Subject: Re: Movie "Collateral"

 Was refreshing to see an actor with some good gun handling. Cruise got
 some good instruction and used it in the movie. But, he did the same
 thing in "Last Samurai".
 Watch his smooth draw and presentation, and just as nice, his
 holstering his piece without looking or fumbling. It was very much like
 Chuck Taylors methods but I didn't recognize the guy who did the
 training. Perhaps he was one of Chucks old students?
 No matter, the movie was entertaining and I thought Cruise did a
 credible job. I'm not especially a fan of his but he did well. The
 director of the movie went to lengths to make it a good one in a number
 of areas.
 What do you think?

I watched a week ago and had to comment to the wife about the scene where he
double taps the 2 bad guys that stole the cab drivers wallet (Jamie Foxx). I
just watched one of the gun shows on outdoor network or OLN right before
that had, I believe Ken Hackenthorn (sp?) doing the point shooting/ double
tap from the holster drill, he made it look easy, seems like Cruise took a
class or 2 to pull it off so smoothly, overall the movie wasn't bad, plenty
of gun play to keep you entertained.

  Bob M

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 More options Dec 28 2004, 4:08 pm
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From: "Ol shy & Bashful" <FlyinR...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 21:08:51 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Dec 28 2004 4:08 pm
Subject: Re: Movie "Collateral"
Bob
Ken Hackathorn is a very qualified shooter and instructor. I first met
him while he was instructing for Chuck Taylor at Jeff Coopers Gunsite
back in 1980. I think Kenny is still an active police officer in Ohio
unless he retired from law enforcement.
Foxx went thru a driving course out in the Mojave desert at the Bob
Bondurant Race track near Rosamond so he could give a more accurate
presentation as a high speed taxi driver!
Cruise spent nearly three months practicing with an instructor of
japanese swords prior to his Last Samurai movie. Not sure if it was
Cruise's idea or the director? For sure he never did the jet flying in
Top Gun !! <ggg>
There are a lot of good shooters around but not as many that can shoot
from concealed while wearing regular street clothes and under any kind
of conditions. That takes a lot of practice that most don't care to do
if there is no money in it.
Ol Shy & Basshful

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 More options Dec 29 2004, 9:14 pm
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From: lake...@aol.com (John Doe)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 02:14:20 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, Dec 29 2004 9:14 pm
Subject: Re: Movie "Collateral"
#The director of the movie went to lengths >to make it a good one in a number
of >areas. What do you think?
#

The director is Michael Mann, the same guy who directed Heat. That movie is
well known for the firearms expertise that is shown. It looks like this guy is
one of the few who likes to get it right. A rarity in Hollywood.

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 More options Dec 29 2004, 9:14 pm
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From: "ejstahl" <ejst...@verizon.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 02:14:13 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: Movie "Collateral"
Cruise was trained by Mick Gould a former SAS operative. Gould also worked
with Michael Mann for the movie HEAT as did another former SAS man, Andy
McNab.

Ed

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 More options Jan 3 2005, 11:29 pm
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From: "Lee" <l...@znet.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 04:29:57 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: Movie "Collateral"
I watched these SAS guys train Robert De Niro for "Heat".  They were
tireless, relentless, the same assault course over and over all day
long.  Michael Mann has also used Jim Zubiena, IPSC Combat Master and
part time actor for his training - William Petersen in "Manhunter"
formerly "Red Dragon" and Don Johnson for "Miami Vice".  Yes, Mann
insists on real skill.

Lee

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 More options Jan 5 2005, 8:21 am
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:21:49 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: Movie "Collateral"
Andy McNab (McNabb?) also wrote "Bravo Two Zero" about his SAS unit
Scud Hunting in Iraq then as POW in an Iraqi prison.  I found it
entertaining, especially when he described the "crazy" American POWs
who would get a beating for talking, but immediately say something
like, "Man, I could sure use a pizza now" just as the guards are
leaving to wash the blood off their hands.

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 More options Jan 5 2005, 11:57 am
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From: "ejstahl" <ejst...@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 16:57:54 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: Movie "Collateral"
McNab has two non fiction books about his SAS days and about five or so
fiction books featuring his alter ego Nick Stone.

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