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Larry
Jan 16, 2012, 4:41:30 PM1/16/12
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This is a link to a tiny little muzzle loading cannon that uses BBs as cannon
balls.
http://www.koreus.com/video/mini-canon.html
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balls.
http://www.koreus.com/video/mini-canon.html
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nord...@yahoo.com
Jan 16, 2012, 6:39:18 PM1/16/12
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Gunner Asch
Jan 16, 2012, 8:29:06 PM1/16/12
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 23:39:18 +0000 (UTC), nord...@yahoo.com wrote:
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## http://www.koreus.com/video/mini-canon.html
#
#I have got to get me one of those!
Got a drill press? Make one.
Gunner
#
## http://www.koreus.com/video/mini-canon.html
#
#I have got to get me one of those!
Got a drill press? Make one.
Gunner
David Griffith
Jan 18, 2012, 7:07:35 AM1/18/12
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Larry <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:
# This is a link to a tiny little muzzle loading cannon that uses BBs as cannon
# balls.
# http://www.koreus.com/video/mini-canon.html
When I found that on Youtube a while ago, I messaged the guy suggesting
he make a tiny set of cannon tools. Apparently I got flagged for
obscenity when I referred to how one can make a tiny slow match for a
tiny linstock.
--
David Griffith
davidmy...@acm.org <--- Put my last name where it belongs
# This is a link to a tiny little muzzle loading cannon that uses BBs as cannon
# balls.
# http://www.koreus.com/video/mini-canon.html
When I found that on Youtube a while ago, I messaged the guy suggesting
he make a tiny set of cannon tools. Apparently I got flagged for
obscenity when I referred to how one can make a tiny slow match for a
tiny linstock.
--
David Griffith
davidmy...@acm.org <--- Put my last name where it belongs
Wayne
Jan 18, 2012, 12:20:23 PM1/18/12
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Larry <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:
# This is a link to a tiny little muzzle loading cannon that uses BBs as
cannon
# balls.
# http://www.koreus.com/video/mini-canon.html
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# This is a link to a tiny little muzzle loading cannon that uses BBs as
cannon
# balls.
# http://www.koreus.com/video/mini-canon.html
Anyone know if that particular model is available for sale? I surfed a bit
and never found that one, but saw some speculations that the one shown was
custom made.
--Wayne
Larry
Jan 18, 2012, 8:49:22 PM1/18/12
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In article <jf6v0m$alp$1...@news.albasani.net>, mygarb...@verizon.net says...
# Anyone know if that particular model is available for sale? I surfed a bit
# and never found that one, but saw some speculations that the one shown was
# custom made.
Anybody with a drill press could knock that one out in a couple hours.
Polishing it up and making it look pretty might take a day, and a Dreml would
help.
# Anyone know if that particular model is available for sale? I surfed a bit
# and never found that one, but saw some speculations that the one shown was
# custom made.
Anybody with a drill press could knock that one out in a couple hours.
Polishing it up and making it look pretty might take a day, and a Dreml would
help.
Truebrit
Jan 19, 2012, 10:24:55 AM1/19/12
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# #mygarb...@verizon.net says...
# # Anyone know if that particular model is available for sale? I surfed a
# bit
# # and never found that one, but saw some speculations that the one shown
# was
# # custom made.
#
#"Larry" <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:
# Anybody with a drill press could knock that one out in a couple hours.
# Polishing it up and making it look pretty might take a day, and a Dreml
# would
# help.
#
Given my experience as a machinist I would think you would require an
attachment to the drill press that would allow it to be also used as a
milling machine.
Truebrit.
Steve W.
Jan 19, 2012, 7:09:42 PM1/19/12
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# Given my experience as a machinist I would think you would require an
# attachment to the drill press that would allow it to be also used as a
# milling machine.
# Truebrit.
#
Take a grade 8 bolt 1/2" or so. Cut off the head with a hack saw. Chuck
it in the drill press. use a file to radius the cut end. Now reverse the
bolt and turn the other end to a taper and cut the excess off with the
hacksaw. Now use the file to clean up the cut end. Center punch the end
and drill the "barrel" bore. Then drill the touch hole. Make the
carriage and braze them together.
Don Lampson
Jan 20, 2012, 6:02:26 AM1/20/12
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That "mini cannon" would be a "plinker's delight", if it wasn't so
sow to load?
The way it blasted those computers, TVs, bottles, etc...., shows
real potential for the kind of "gunnery practice" found in roadside
shooting areas throughout the West!
Don
sow to load?
The way it blasted those computers, TVs, bottles, etc...., shows
real potential for the kind of "gunnery practice" found in roadside
shooting areas throughout the West!
Don
Truebrit
Jan 20, 2012, 6:02:33 AM1/20/12
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##Truebrit wrote:
## Given my experience as a machinist I would think you would require an
# # attachment to the drill press that would allow it to be also used as a
# # milling machine.
# # Truebrit.
# #
#"Steve W." <csr...@yahoo.com> wrote
# bolt and turn the other end to a taper and cut the excess off with the
# hacksaw. Now use the file to clean up the cut end. Center punch the end
# and drill the "barrel" bore. Then drill the touch hole. Make the
# carriage and braze them together.
#
#
And you would end up with something a lot cruder than what was shown in the
video.
Truebrit.
## Given my experience as a machinist I would think you would require an
# # attachment to the drill press that would allow it to be also used as a
# # milling machine.
# # Truebrit.
# #
#"Steve W." <csr...@yahoo.com> wrote
# Take a grade 8 bolt 1/2" or so. Cut off the head with a hack saw. Chuck
# it in the drill press. use a file to radius the cut end. Now reverse the
# bolt and turn the other end to a taper and cut the excess off with the
# hacksaw. Now use the file to clean up the cut end. Center punch the end
# and drill the "barrel" bore. Then drill the touch hole. Make the
# carriage and braze them together.
#
#
And you would end up with something a lot cruder than what was shown in the
video.
Truebrit.
Gunner Asch
Jan 20, 2012, 8:09:55 AM1/20/12
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:02:33 +0000 (UTC), "Truebrit"
<true...@hotmail.com> wrote:
###Truebrit wrote:
### Given my experience as a machinist I would think you would require an
## # attachment to the drill press that would allow it to be also used as a
## # milling machine.
## # Truebrit.
## #
##"Steve W." <csr...@yahoo.com> wrote
## Take a grade 8 bolt 1/2" or so. Cut off the head with a hack saw. Chuck
## it in the drill press. use a file to radius the cut end. Now reverse the
## bolt and turn the other end to a taper and cut the excess off with the
## hacksaw. Now use the file to clean up the cut end. Center punch the end
## and drill the "barrel" bore. Then drill the touch hole. Make the
## carriage and braze them together.
##
##
#
#And you would end up with something a lot cruder than what was shown in the
#video.
#Truebrit.
True. But sticking a bit of brass in the drill chuck and working it as
the drill is spinning is easily done and can be done with woodworking
tools such as rasps and whatnot. Its only brass afterall.
Drill and tap 8-32. cut off the head of a 1.25" 8-32 bolt and screw it
into the hole..spin and (Carefully) do the outside work, remove, chuck
it in a vise, drill to depth with a # 16 drill (.1770) or even a #15
(.180) and then drill a flash hole for fuse or nichrome wire ignitor.
Using a standard BB (.177) or better yet..a .177 pellet for a good gas
seal and then make the trunnion and attach it to the barrel and voila!
Use FFFF (4 F) black powder as a propellent.
Gunner
<true...@hotmail.com> wrote:
###Truebrit wrote:
### Given my experience as a machinist I would think you would require an
## # attachment to the drill press that would allow it to be also used as a
## # milling machine.
## # Truebrit.
## #
##"Steve W." <csr...@yahoo.com> wrote
## Take a grade 8 bolt 1/2" or so. Cut off the head with a hack saw. Chuck
## it in the drill press. use a file to radius the cut end. Now reverse the
## bolt and turn the other end to a taper and cut the excess off with the
## hacksaw. Now use the file to clean up the cut end. Center punch the end
## and drill the "barrel" bore. Then drill the touch hole. Make the
## carriage and braze them together.
##
##
#
#And you would end up with something a lot cruder than what was shown in the
#video.
#Truebrit.
True. But sticking a bit of brass in the drill chuck and working it as
the drill is spinning is easily done and can be done with woodworking
tools such as rasps and whatnot. Its only brass afterall.
Drill and tap 8-32. cut off the head of a 1.25" 8-32 bolt and screw it
into the hole..spin and (Carefully) do the outside work, remove, chuck
it in a vise, drill to depth with a # 16 drill (.1770) or even a #15
(.180) and then drill a flash hole for fuse or nichrome wire ignitor.
Using a standard BB (.177) or better yet..a .177 pellet for a good gas
seal and then make the trunnion and attach it to the barrel and voila!
Use FFFF (4 F) black powder as a propellent.
Gunner
Wayne
Jan 20, 2012, 3:54:07 PM1/20/12
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message news:jfbp33$glk$1...@news.albasani.net...
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:02:33 +0000 (UTC), "Truebrit"
<true...@hotmail.com> wrote:
###Truebrit wrote:
### Given my experience as a machinist I would think you would require an
## # attachment to the drill press that would allow it to be also used as a
## # milling machine.
## # Truebrit.
## #
##"Steve W." <csr...@yahoo.com> wrote
## Take a grade 8 bolt 1/2" or so. Cut off the head with a hack saw. Chuck
## it in the drill press. use a file to radius the cut end. Now reverse the
## bolt and turn the other end to a taper and cut the excess off with the
## hacksaw. Now use the file to clean up the cut end. Center punch the end
## and drill the "barrel" bore. Then drill the touch hole. Make the
## carriage and braze them together.
##
##
#
#And you would end up with something a lot cruder than what was shown in the
#video.
#Truebrit.
#the drill is spinning is easily done and can be done with woodworking
#tools such as rasps and whatnot. Its only brass afterall.
#Drill and tap 8-32. cut off the head of a 1.25" 8-32 bolt and screw it
#into the hole..spin and (Carefully) do the outside work, remove, chuck
#it in a vise, drill to depth with a # 16 drill (.1770) or even a #15
#(.180) and then drill a flash hole for fuse or nichrome wire ignitor.
#Using a standard BB (.177) or better yet..a .177 pellet for a good gas
#seal and then make the trunnion and attach it to the barrel and voila!
#
#Use FFFF (4 F) black powder as a propellent.
#
#Gunner
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That's way more tooling than I have available. As an alternative, I might
buy one of the commercially sold units that don't have the aiming assists.
I'll give it to my range buddy that shoots black powder and he might modify
it himself.
TimR
Jan 20, 2012, 8:12:12 PM1/20/12
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On Jan 19, 7:09=A0pm, "Steve W." <csr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
# # Given my experience as a machinist =A0I would think you would require a=
n
for strength.
If you're going to leave it looking crude, use a short carriage bolt,
leave the threads on and double nut it to attach to the carriage. But
go for the softest bolt you can find. There's no way to pack enough
black powder into that hole to give you much pressure.
# # Given my experience as a machinist =A0I would think you would require a=
n
# # attachment to the drill press that would allow it to be also used as a
# # milling machine.
# # Truebrit.
# #
#
# # Truebrit.
# #
#
# Take a grade 8 bolt 1/2" or so. Cut off the head with a hack saw. Chuck
# it in the drill press. use a file to radius the cut end. Now reverse the
# bolt and turn the other end to a taper and cut the excess off with the
# hacksaw. Now use the file to clean up the cut end. Center punch the end
# and drill the "barrel" bore. Then drill the touch hole. Make the
# carriage and braze them together.
#
With a grade 8 bolt? Not so easy to work with, and way way overkill
# it in the drill press. use a file to radius the cut end. Now reverse the
# bolt and turn the other end to a taper and cut the excess off with the
# hacksaw. Now use the file to clean up the cut end. Center punch the end
# and drill the "barrel" bore. Then drill the touch hole. Make the
# carriage and braze them together.
#
for strength.
If you're going to leave it looking crude, use a short carriage bolt,
leave the threads on and double nut it to attach to the carriage. But
go for the softest bolt you can find. There's no way to pack enough
black powder into that hole to give you much pressure.
Steve W.
Jan 21, 2012, 6:10:55 AM1/21/12
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# With a grade 8 bolt? Not so easy to work with, and way way overkill
# for strength.
#
# If you're going to leave it looking crude, use a short carriage bolt,
# leave the threads on and double nut it to attach to the carriage. But
# go for the softest bolt you can find. There's no way to pack enough
# black powder into that hole to give you much pressure.
I make parts out of G8 bolts all the time. If it isn't a critical part I
do it free hand in either the lathe chuck or the drill press.
If you know how to really use files and crocus cloth you can make things
that are just as nice as any other tool can make.
Metalworking isn't all that hard.
--
Steve W.
Gunner Asch
Jan 21, 2012, 6:10:59 AM1/21/12
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You dont have a couple drill bits and a cheap tap? And a rasp and file?
Blink blink...need some? Id be happy to send you some.
Gunner
Blink blink...need some? Id be happy to send you some.
Gunner
TimR
Jan 25, 2012, 6:00:59 AM1/25/12
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No need to make them, you can buy one now, and probably for cheaper
than you could make them if your time is worth anything.
http://www.pocketcannons.com/
than you could make them if your time is worth anything.
http://www.pocketcannons.com/
David Griffith
Jan 26, 2012, 12:18:06 PM1/26/12
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TimR <timot...@aol.com> wrote:
# No need to make them, you can buy one now, and probably for cheaper
# than you could make them if your time is worth anything.
# http://www.pocketcannons.com/
Aww, crud... they discontinued the .177 version.
# No need to make them, you can buy one now, and probably for cheaper
# than you could make them if your time is worth anything.
# http://www.pocketcannons.com/
Aww, crud... they discontinued the .177 version.
TimR
Jan 26, 2012, 4:40:10 PM1/26/12
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On Jan 26, 12:18=A0pm, davidmylastn...@acm.org (David Griffith) wrote:
# TimR <timothy...@aol.com> wrote:
#
# # No need to make them, you can buy one now, and probably for cheaper
# # than you could make them if your time is worth anything.
#
# #http://www.pocketcannons.com/
#
# Aww, crud... they discontinued the .177 version.
I was wondering what they get for muzzle velocity with that .30
caliber version.
Can anyone estimate the grains of black powder used from watching them
load it? I've shot very little black powder and it was 10 years ago.
# TimR <timothy...@aol.com> wrote:
#
# # No need to make them, you can buy one now, and probably for cheaper
# # than you could make them if your time is worth anything.
#
# #http://www.pocketcannons.com/
#
# Aww, crud... they discontinued the .177 version.
I was wondering what they get for muzzle velocity with that .30
caliber version.
Can anyone estimate the grains of black powder used from watching them
load it? I've shot very little black powder and it was 10 years ago.
haraoi_conal
Jan 27, 2012, 8:17:18 AM1/27/12
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# I was wondering what they get for muzzle velocity with that .30
# caliber version.
#
# Can anyone estimate the grains of black powder used from watching them
# load it? =A0I've shot very little black powder and it was 10 years ago.
#
http://www.pocketcannons.com/howto/
States that you load the thing with, "...Any Black Powder, you can
also use Pyrodex, Triple 7 or crushed matchheads... ...Fill About Half
Way..."
The rest of the page is a great lesson on how to use match heads to
fire a crude, homemade gun.
Just an un-educated guess here. .30 caliber bore, guessing about 1/2
inch long. That is approximately 15-20 grains. About the same load
recommended for a .44 caliber colt reproduction pistol. Not too
shabby. You would get more projectile velocity by bolting the carriage
down, but that would put more shear stress on the trunnions.
# caliber version.
#
# Can anyone estimate the grains of black powder used from watching them
# load it? =A0I've shot very little black powder and it was 10 years ago.
#
http://www.pocketcannons.com/howto/
States that you load the thing with, "...Any Black Powder, you can
also use Pyrodex, Triple 7 or crushed matchheads... ...Fill About Half
Way..."
The rest of the page is a great lesson on how to use match heads to
fire a crude, homemade gun.
Just an un-educated guess here. .30 caliber bore, guessing about 1/2
inch long. That is approximately 15-20 grains. About the same load
recommended for a .44 caliber colt reproduction pistol. Not too
shabby. You would get more projectile velocity by bolting the carriage
down, but that would put more shear stress on the trunnions.
David Griffith
Jan 27, 2012, 8:17:23 AM1/27/12
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TimR <timot...@aol.com> wrote:
# On Jan 26, 12:18=A0pm, davidmylastn...@acm.org (David Griffith) wrote:
# I was wondering what they get for muzzle velocity with that .30
# caliber version.
# Can anyone estimate the grains of black powder used from watching them
# load it? I've shot very little black powder and it was 10 years ago.
As far as I can tell, it's a bit more than what I'd feel safe fooling
around with indoors or in the backyard.
# On Jan 26, 12:18=A0pm, davidmylastn...@acm.org (David Griffith) wrote:
# # TimR <timothy...@aol.com> wrote:
# #
# # # No need to make them, you can buy one now, and probably for cheaper
# # # than you could make them if your time is worth anything.
# #
# # # No need to make them, you can buy one now, and probably for cheaper
# I was wondering what they get for muzzle velocity with that .30
# caliber version.
# Can anyone estimate the grains of black powder used from watching them
# load it? I've shot very little black powder and it was 10 years ago.
As far as I can tell, it's a bit more than what I'd feel safe fooling
around with indoors or in the backyard.
Wayne
Jan 28, 2012, 2:44:00 PM1/28/12
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"David Griffith" wrote in message news:jfu853$g9i$1...@news.albasani.net...
TimR <timot...@aol.com> wrote:
# On Jan 26, 12:18=A0pm, davidmylastn...@acm.org (David Griffith) wrote:
# # TimR <timothy...@aol.com> wrote:
# # #http://www.pocketcannons.com/
# #
# # Aww, crud... they discontinued the .177 version.
So take a look at :
http://www.pocketartillery.com/
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