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rfr...@gmail.com
May 16, 2013, 6:08:19 PM5/16/13
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There is an interesting video about legislative attempts to go further on the subject of lead in condors in California.
This video is from August of 2012, but the subject (and the condors!) is not dead.
The story is that the tree huggers don't want to let science intrude into their values.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Zki-boWXo
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This video is from August of 2012, but the subject (and the condors!) is not dead.
The story is that the tree huggers don't want to let science intrude into their values.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Zki-boWXo
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Wayne
May 17, 2013, 7:06:05 AM5/17/13
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Another interesting development is the recent declaration by the US Fish and
Wildlife Service that windfarms will not be prosecuted for inadvertently
harassing or even killing endangered California condors.
I suppose "green" trumps condors, but condors trump lead.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-killing-condors-20130511,0,1790222.story
rfr...@gmail.com
May 18, 2013, 12:45:16 PM5/18/13
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There was a group of concerned environmentalists invited to tour sites of proposed wind
generators in MN. There was concern for possible injury to eagles, which are not endangered.
Those in the survey concluded they foresaw little or no potential threat.
generators in MN. There was concern for possible injury to eagles, which are not endangered.
Those in the survey concluded they foresaw little or no potential threat.
Martin Eastburn
May 19, 2013, 5:49:33 AM5/19/13
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Nice to say but the wind turbines in northern Ca were modified to scare
off the eagles that flew through the pass on the way to the northern
lakes and hunting fields. As I recall, they put on noise makers, might
have been flashing lights.
Martin
off the eagles that flew through the pass on the way to the northern
lakes and hunting fields. As I recall, they put on noise makers, might
have been flashing lights.
Martin
Gerald "Brick" Brickwood
May 19, 2013, 3:23:33 PM5/19/13
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But California and Arizona both forbid lead ammunition use within the
range of the Condor. So what's left Nevada?
Gunner Asch
May 19, 2013, 5:39:34 PM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 19:23:33 +0000 (UTC), "Gerald \"Brick\" Brickwood"
<bri...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
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#But California and Arizona both forbid lead ammunition use within the
#range of the Condor. So what's left Nevada?
They forbid HUNTING with lead ammo. Not target shooting.
There is a noticable difference
<bri...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
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#But California and Arizona both forbid lead ammunition use within the
#range of the Condor. So what's left Nevada?
They forbid HUNTING with lead ammo. Not target shooting.
There is a noticable difference
David Griffith
May 19, 2013, 6:43:25 PM5/19/13
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# But California and Arizona both forbid lead ammunition use within the
# range of the Condor. So what's left Nevada?
Why haven't we heard stories of other vultures having similar problems?
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David Griffith
davidmy...@acm.org <--- Put my last name where it belongs
# range of the Condor. So what's left Nevada?
Why haven't we heard stories of other vultures having similar problems?
--
David Griffith
davidmy...@acm.org <--- Put my last name where it belongs
Martin Eastburn
May 20, 2013, 6:28:41 AM5/20/13
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Condors don't eat targets. Rabbits don't eat lead bullets.
Condors eat road kill and dead by mishap in the wild.
The lead was taken out of hunting so a near kill won't be eaten
by a condor.
So the looney bins are blowing smoke to cry out for something.
Martin
Condors eat road kill and dead by mishap in the wild.
The lead was taken out of hunting so a near kill won't be eaten
by a condor.
So the looney bins are blowing smoke to cry out for something.
Martin
David E. Powell
May 28, 2013, 5:54:36 AM5/28/13
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On Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:43:25 PM UTC-4, David Griffith wrote:
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# # But California and Arizona both forbid lead ammunition use within the
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# # range of the Condor. So what's left Nevada?
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# Why haven't we heard stories of other vultures having similar problems?
All Vultures despise lead. This is why Politicians try to ban guns and ammunition.
;)
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# # But California and Arizona both forbid lead ammunition use within the
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# # range of the Condor. So what's left Nevada?
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# Why haven't we heard stories of other vultures having similar problems?
All Vultures despise lead. This is why Politicians try to ban guns and ammunition.
;)
Petey
May 28, 2013, 6:32:15 PM5/28/13
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David E. Powell wrote:
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# # Why haven't we heard stories of other vultures having similar problems?
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# All Vultures despise lead. This is why Politicians try to ban guns and
# ammunition.
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# ;)
Heh, clever anology there! :-D
rfr...@gmail.com
May 29, 2013, 8:13:37 PM5/29/13
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Back to the origin of this thread, re: content of lead in condors. There's
a very interesting study by the MN DNR regarding the comparison of various
types of rifle and shotgun ammo and where they found lead in deer carcasse
s.You can see this at: http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/fish_wildlife/lead/bull
a very interesting study by the MN DNR regarding the comparison of various
types of rifle and shotgun ammo and where they found lead in deer carcasse
s.You can see this at: http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/fish_wildlife/lead/bull
SaPeIsMa
May 30, 2013, 4:32:01 PM5/30/13
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# You can see this at: http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/fish_wildlife/lead/bull
#
This works better
<http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/fish_wildlife/lead/bulletstudy/resources/publicsummary.pdf>
And here are the other options
<http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/hunting/lead/index.html>
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This works better
<http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/fish_wildlife/lead/bulletstudy/resources/publicsummary.pdf>
And here are the other options
<http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/hunting/lead/index.html>
rfr...@gmail.com
May 30, 2013, 4:32:02 PM5/30/13
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On Thursday, May 16, 2013 5:08:19 PM UTC-5, rfr...@gmail.com wrote:
# There is an interesting video about legislative attempts to go further on the subject of lead in condors in California.
#
#
#
# This video is from August of 2012, but the subject (and the condors!) is not dead.
#
#
#
# The story is that the tree huggers don't want to let science intrude into their values.
#
#
#
# https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Zki-boWXo
Sorry, my reference to a MN DNR study , from yesterday, got garbled. hope this goes right:
http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/fish_wildlife/lead/bulletstudy/resources/publicsummary.pdf
# There is an interesting video about legislative attempts to go further on the subject of lead in condors in California.
#
#
#
# This video is from August of 2012, but the subject (and the condors!) is not dead.
#
#
#
# The story is that the tree huggers don't want to let science intrude into their values.
#
#
#
# https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Zki-boWXo
Sorry, my reference to a MN DNR study , from yesterday, got garbled. hope this goes right:
http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/fish_wildlife/lead/bulletstudy/resources/publicsummary.pdf
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