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Adam Smith

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May 9, 2008, 7:23:08 PM5/9/08
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I've always maintained that the press definition of an arsenal is more
than one gun. As per:

<quote begins>
May 9, 7:17 AM EDT

Car full of weapons lands US soldier in Mexican jail

By ALICIA A. CALDWELL
Associated Press Writer

EL PASO, Texas (AP) -- When he crossed the U.S.-Mexico border, Spc.
Richard Torres was carrying a small arsenal in his car: an AR-15 assault
rifle, a .45-caliber handgun, 171 rounds of ammunition, several
cartridges and three knives.
<quote ends>

Also, note that from the headline that two guns in a vehicle is also a
"Car full of weapons".

As to the "171 rounds of ammunition, several cartridges", your guess is
as good as mine. Taking literally it means more than 171 cartridges.

The article mentions that the jail operates on a cash basis. Does this
mean that if you don't have a source of money, you starve?

Bill

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Uncle_vito

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May 10, 2008, 10:10:33 AM5/10/08
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Bill wrote:
#
# The article mentions that the jail operates on a cash basis. Does this
# mean that if you don't have a source of money, you starve?
#
Ever been to Tijuana. You start calling all your family and friends in the
states to come down and buy you out. You shouldn't go to Mexico without
some bribe money in your pocket.

Vito

David R. Birch

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May 11, 2008, 9:45:59 AM5/11/08
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Uncle_vito wrote:
# Bill wrote: # # The article mentions that the jail operates on a
# cash basis. Does this # mean that if you don't have a source of
# money, you starve? # Ever been to Tijuana. You start calling all
# your family and friends in the states to come down and buy you out.
# You shouldn't go to Mexico without some bribe money in your pocket.
#
#
# Vito

And the quicker and lower level you can bribe, the less expensive it
will be.

David

nick hull

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May 11, 2008, 9:46:34 AM5/11/08
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In article <g04acp$ed3$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>,
"Uncle_vito" <uncle_v...@yahoo.com> wrote:

# Bill wrote:
# #

# # The article mentions that the jail operates on a cash basis. Does this

# # mean that if you don't have a source of money, you starve?
# #


# Ever been to Tijuana. You start calling all your family and friends in the

# states to come down and buy you out. You shouldn't go to Mexico without
# some bribe money in your pocket.

Assuming the bribe money is not stolen by thieves ;)

Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/
.

Zomby...@cox.net

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May 11, 2008, 9:46:39 AM5/11/08
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On Sat, 10 May 2008 14:10:33 +0000 (UTC), "Uncle_vito"
<uncle_v...@yahoo.com> wrote:

#Bill wrote:
##
## The article mentions that the jail operates on a cash basis. Does this
## mean that if you don't have a source of money, you starve?
##
#Ever been to Tijuana. You start calling all your family and friends in the
#states to come down and buy you out. You shouldn't go to Mexico without
#some bribe money in your pocket.
#
You really should not keep it in your pocket either. They'll simply
take it upon arrest.

When it is said that the jail operates on a "Cash Basis", that usually
means that they just lock you up. If you want a bed, blankets or food
-- you better have some coin with which to buy them.

Anyhow, with the original article being snipped everyone needs to
remember that anyone stupid enough to cross the border into Mexico
with a firearm of any type, they better damn well be ready to go
directly to jail and plan on being there for a while. All-in-all it
really is a pretty stupid thing to do.

--
"Before all else, be armed" -- Machiavelli

Adam Smith

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May 12, 2008, 8:21:28 AM5/12/08
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Uncle_vito wrote:
# Bill wrote:
# #
# # The article mentions that the jail operates on a cash basis. Does this
# # mean that if you don't have a source of money, you starve?
# #

# Ever been to Tijuana. You start calling all your family and friends in the
# states to come down and buy you out. You shouldn't go to Mexico without
# some bribe money in your pocket.
#
# Vito
#
#

What's to keep the cops down there from just stealing your bribe money,
as well as your watch, shoes, etc., and then throwing your ass in jail
to wait for you to arrange for some more bribe money to be brought down?

At the rate the Mexicans are coming north, I wonder if this is a
foretaste of America in the future.

Bill


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Jim Yanik

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May 12, 2008, 6:29:54 PM5/12/08
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Adam Smith <lastam...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:g09co8$8ei$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu:

# Uncle_vito wrote:


# # Bill wrote:
# # #

# # # The article mentions that the jail operates on a cash basis. Does
# this # # mean that if you don't have a source of money, you starve?


# # #
# # Ever been to Tijuana. You start calling all your family and friends

# in the # states to come down and buy you out. You shouldn't go to
# Mexico without # some bribe money in your pocket.


# #
# # Vito
# #

# #


#
# What's to keep the cops down there from just stealing your bribe

# money, as well as your watch, shoes, etc., and then throwing your ass
# in jail to wait for you to arrange for some more bribe money to be
# brought down?
#
# At the rate the Mexicans are coming north, I wonder if this is a
# foretaste of America in the future.
#
# Bill
#
#

you can already see that here in the US.
California is a prime example of the future of the US.
Note the LA mayor's refusal to enforce immigration laws.
Check out La Raza,MechA,and similar groups.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

pumper hinkle

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May 14, 2008, 9:18:37 PM5/14/08
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A friend was once being interviewed for jury duty, a case involving a
shooting. The attorney gal who was questioning him asked if he had any
guns himself. He said that he did and she asked him what kinds and how
many. He said he had a shotgun, a .22 rifle, and a .38 revolver whereupon
the attorney gal said something like "wow, that's quite an aresnal, isn't
it?" He told her that no, he didn't consider it an arsenal, that he
considered an arsenal to be more like a room full of military rifles in
racks, ready for soldiers to use. She then asked him how he would
describe his collection and he replied "I'd say I had a couple of guns."

A person who will understand why a golfer has 15 golf clubs in his bag
cannot understand why a shooter/hunter will have/need more than one gun.
Go figure!

Sometimes a non-hunter/shooter co-worker might ask me how many guns I owned.
My reply was always "oh, a couple."

Omelet

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May 15, 2008, 7:41:21 AM5/15/08
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In article <g0g31d$d56$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>,
"pumper hinkle" <ralphc...@earthlink.net> wrote:

# A friend was once being interviewed for jury duty, a case involving a
# shooting. The attorney gal who was questioning him asked if he had any
# guns himself. He said that he did and she asked him what kinds and how
# many. He said he had a shotgun, a .22 rifle, and a .38 revolver whereupon
# the attorney gal said something like "wow, that's quite an aresnal, isn't
# it?" He told her that no, he didn't consider it an arsenal, that he
# considered an arsenal to be more like a room full of military rifles in
# racks, ready for soldiers to use. She then asked him how he would
# describe his collection and he replied "I'd say I had a couple of guns."
#
# A person who will understand why a golfer has 15 golf clubs in his bag
# cannot understand why a shooter/hunter will have/need more than one gun.
# Go figure!
#
# Sometimes a non-hunter/shooter co-worker might ask me how many guns I owned.
# My reply was always "oh, a couple."

I've never been asked that question. ;-)
The only people I discuss it with are people that I know understand...

I know my collection is small compared to many gun aficionados.
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Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

J Buck

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May 15, 2008, 7:41:29 AM5/15/08
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Pumper Hinkle wrote: <Sometimes a non-hunter/shooter co-worker might ask

me how many guns I owned. My reply was always "oh, a couple.">

That's probably the safe reply, and in some cases, saying 'a couple' may
be one too many.

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