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sammy

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Apr 7, 2008, 8:38:49 PM4/7/08
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"From my cold dead hands!"

Looks like his terms were accepted.

(It had to be said. But actually I have a great deal of
respect for the man)


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Apr 9, 2008, 12:52:07 AM4/9/08
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sammy wrote:
# "From my cold dead hands!"

I'm sure a lot of people here remember him most for that, but he was a
great actor. Everyone owes it to themselves to see him as Moses and as
Ben Hur. There were many other movies he was in, but those performances
always stood out for me.
Bill
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Herb Martin

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May 10, 2008, 10:10:35 AM5/10/08
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"wb" <archan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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# sammy wrote:
# # "From my cold dead hands!"
#
# I'm sure a lot of people here remember him most for that, but he was a
# great actor. Everyone owes it to themselves to see him as Moses and as
# Ben Hur. There were many other movies he was in, but those performances
# always stood out for me.
# Bill

Watching him in "Will Penny" (1968) -- and enjoying it -- as I write this.

Salute!

J Buck

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May 11, 2008, 9:46:28 AM5/11/08
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Just caught him in 'Planet Of The Apes' a couple nights ago on some
channel (AMC, maybe?) An iconic role, to be sure. Also liked him in 'The
Omega Man'. Saw it in the old Bijou on Hammond St. in downtown Bangor ME
when I was 14 or 15, many years ago LoL This is essentially the same
role Will Smith reprised a few months ago in 'I Am Legend'.

Herb Martin

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May 12, 2008, 8:20:27 AM5/12/08
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"J Buck" <jbu...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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# Just caught him in 'Planet Of The Apes' a couple nights ago on some
# channel (AMC, maybe?) An iconic role, to be sure.

He was very PROUD of that movie. People forget with "Planet of the Apes 7"
or whatever how groundbreaking and well done the first one was.

# Also liked him in 'The
# Omega Man'. Saw it in the old Bijou on Hammond St. in downtown Bangor ME
# when I was 14 or 15, many years ago LoL This is essentially the same
# role Will Smith reprised a few months ago in 'I Am Legend'.

Probably should set my TiVo to pick up his movies automatically for
a while.

n32...@aol.com

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May 12, 2008, 8:20:49 AM5/12/08
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On May 11, 6:46�am, jbuc...@webtv.net (J Buck) wrote:
> ...

Your thinking of the Omega Man,

The were no apes in I am Legend

pro...@ca.rr.com

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May 12, 2008, 8:21:15 AM5/12/08
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On May 11, 6:46 am, jbuc...@webtv.net (J Buck) wrote:
# Just caught him in 'Planet Of The Apes' a couple nights ago on some
# channel (AMC, maybe?) An iconic role, to be sure. Also liked him in 'The
# Omega Man'. Saw it in the old Bijou on Hammond St. in downtown Bangor ME
# when I was 14 or 15, many years ago  LoL  This is essentially the same
# role Will Smith reprised a few months ago in 'I Am Legend'.
#
#

Not essentially.

Both films are based on the same book: I am Legend, By Richard
Matheson 1964.


Trumpet

Gunny_2008

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May 12, 2008, 8:21:23 AM5/12/08
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"J Buck" <jbu...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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# Just caught him in 'Planet Of The Apes' a couple nights ago on some
# channel (AMC, maybe?) An iconic role, to be sure. Also liked him in 'The
# Omega Man'. Saw it in the old Bijou on Hammond St. in downtown Bangor ME
# when I was 14 or 15, many years ago LoL This is essentially the same
# role Will Smith reprised a few months ago in 'I Am Legend'.
#

His two best roles, Omega Man and Wil Penny (filmed just south of here, near
Bishop,CA). My favorites.

Herb Martin

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May 12, 2008, 6:29:40 PM5/12/08
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"Gunny_2008" <patmag...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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#
# "J Buck" <jbu...@webtv.net> wrote in message
# news:g06tbk$c8k$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
# # Just caught him in 'Planet Of The Apes' a couple nights ago on some
# # channel (AMC, maybe?) An iconic role, to be sure. Also liked him in 'The
# # Omega Man'. Saw it in the old Bijou on Hammond St. in downtown Bangor ME
# # when I was 14 or 15, many years ago LoL This is essentially the same
# # role Will Smith reprised a few months ago in 'I Am Legend'.
# #
#

# His two best roles, Omega Man and Wil Penny (filmed just south of here,
# near
# Bishop,CA). My favorites.

I didn't like the ending of Will Penny -- but it certainly wasn't
predictable or trite.

D. Parker

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May 12, 2008, 6:29:44 PM5/12/08
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On May 12, 7:20 am, "n32...@AOL.com" <n32...@aol.com> wrote:
# On May 11, 6:46�am, jbuc...@webtv.net (J Buck) wrote:
#  > ...
#
# Your thinking of the Omega Man,

That would probably explain why he said that he "Also liked him in
'The Omega Man'."

# The were no apes in I am Legend

Nor did he say there were.

J Buck

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May 13, 2008, 8:22:57 AM5/13/08
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n329df wrote: <Your thinking of the Omega Man. The (sic) were no apes in
I am Legend>

Obviously (well, maybe not, for you) the phrase...'This is essentially
the same role Will Smith reprised a few months ago in 'I Am
Legend'...WAS referring to 'The Omega Man'.

J Buck

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May 13, 2008, 8:22:58 AM5/13/08
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Trumpet wrote: <Not essentially. Both films are based on the same book:

I am Legend, By Richard Matheson 1964.>

Um, actually, yeah, essentially. Heston and Smith both played Robert
Neville. Both movies (and the lead role in each) are based on the
source. This IS, in fact, essentially the same role for both actors,
albeit with differences both between the 2 movies and each movie and the
original book.

pro...@ca.rr.com

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May 14, 2008, 8:33:25 AM5/14/08
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On May 13, 5:22 am, jbuc...@webtv.net (J Buck) wrote:
# Trumpet wrote: <Not essentially. Both films are based on the same book:
#
# I am Legend, By Richard Matheson 1964.>
#
# Um, actually, yeah, essentially. Heston and Smith both played Robert
# Neville. Both movies (and the lead role in each) are based on the
# source. This IS, in fact, essentially the same role for both actors,
# albeit with differences both between the 2 movies and each movie and the
# original book.


Hi J,

With all due respect, J, I'll still have say "not essentially.".

J, the word "essentially" is redundant. (This is a very picky,
stylistic issue.)

They both played the same roles. There is no "essentially", they ARE
the exact same roles.

By your own arguments, there is no need to get at the essence of the
matter, hence "essentially" is redundant.

As I said, this is a very picky, stylistic issue.


Trumpet

J Buck

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May 14, 2008, 9:19:03 PM5/14/08
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Trumpet wrote: <Not essentially. Both films are based on the same book:
I am Legend, By Richard Matheson 1964.>

J Buck wrote: <Um, actually, yeah, essentially. Heston and Smith both
played Robert Neville. Both movies (and the lead role in each) are based
on the source. This IS, in fact, essentially the same role for both
actors, albeit with differences both between the 2 movies and each movie
and the original book.>

Trumpet wrote: <Hi J, With all due respect, J, I'll still have say "not

essentially.". J, the word "essentially" is redundant. (This is a very
picky,
stylistic issue.) They both played the same roles. There is no
"essentially", they ARE the exact same roles. By your own arguments,
there is no need to get at the essence of the matter, hence
"essentially" is redundant. As I said, this is a very picky, stylistic
issue.>

It appears we agree, but don't realize it. Your head and my tail (or
vice versa, if you prefer) are 2 sides of the same coin :)

Tom Line

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Jun 10, 2008, 6:28:22 PM6/10/08
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"Omega Man" is better than "I am legend" because Charleton gets it on with
the foxy black chick. Will Smith just gets to watch cartoons. Him having a
dog was cool though.

J Buck

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Jun 11, 2008, 8:27:56 AM6/11/08
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Tom wrote: <"Omega Man" is better than "I am legend" because Charleton

gets it on with the foxy black chick. Will Smith just gets to watch
cartoons. Him having a dog was cool though.>

I liked them both, but think it's an apples to oranges situation.

Don Lampson

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Jun 11, 2008, 9:43:59 PM6/11/08
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Tom
It appears you enjoy movies with at least the suggestion of "smut" in
them?
That is probably why those, "scantily clad girls, shooting machine
guns" have a "niche market"? HawHawHaw!
Don

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pro...@ca.rr.com

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Jun 17, 2008, 9:24:00 AM6/17/08
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On Jun 11, 6:43 pm, DonLamp...@webtv.net (Don Lampson) wrote:
# Tom
#   It appears you enjoy movies with at least the suggestion of "smut" in
# them?  
#   That is probably why those,  "scantily clad girls,  shooting machine
# guns" have a "niche market"?  HawHawHaw!
#                                                     Don
#
# http://www.donlampson.com
#

Gee Don,

Your assertions and assumptions are completely unsupported. Why are
you so quick to insult?

Of the people polled about Heston's vs. Smith's films, Heston's
version was the hands down favorite according to Variety.

Frankly, maybe you oughta put a "He" infront of all your "Haw"s
because your sounding suspiciously like a jack ass.


Trumpet


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Jun 19, 2008, 6:55:20 AM6/19/08
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Trumpet
Just who were these "movie critics" polled on their opinion of the
two movies, anyway?
Do you always believe the "polls", or do you think it's better to
think for yourself about things, every now, and then?
Besides, Tom is the one who thinks "Omega Man" is better, because,
as he said, "Charleton gets it on with the foxy black chick", not me!
You sound like you'd like to be a "vigilante moderator" for rec.guns?
Why are you critiquing my post, just looking for a cyber-squabble?
I thought this board was for gentleposters, and childish name callers
wouldn't be welcome?
Don

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pro...@ca.rr.com

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Jun 20, 2008, 4:21:14 PM6/20/08
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On Jun 19, 3:55 am, DonLamp...@webtv.net (Don Lampson) wrote:
# Trumpet
#   Just who were these "movie critics"  polled on their opinion of the
# two movies,  anyway?
#   Do you always believe the "polls",  or do you think it's better to
# think for yourself about things,  every now,  and then?
#   Besides,  Tom is the one who thinks "Omega Man" is better,  because,
# as he said,  "Charleton gets it on with the foxy black chick",  not me!
#   You sound like you'd like to be a "vigilante moderator" for rec.guns?
# Why are you critiquing my post,  just looking for a cyber-squabble?
#   I thought this board was for gentleposters,  and childish name callers
# wouldn't be welcome?
#                                                Don
#

Gee Donny,

I only cite polls when they support my position, generally with polls,
I can take or leave 'em. In this case, I happen to agree with the
polls. "I AM LEGEND" wasn't half the movie "THE OMEGA MAN" was,
especially talking to the studios.

1.Omega man earned a 4 month "run" at first run theaters.(In the biz,
we call it "long legs".The movie made good money for 4 straight
months) Foreign maket revenues were good for 3-4 years. I am Legend
had a 4 week "run". Why so short? After week 2 attendance dropped to
nil as did their revenues. Time to replace Legend with with a product
that might make the studios more money. (This is a sure sign of a bad
product.)

2. Foreign make distribution isn't quite the cash cow it once was.
Once the black market dvd's come out, its pretty well "game over".

I read what Tom wrote-nuthin' wrong here. Your response was
condescending, insulting and rude.

You chose the words and style of your post-not me, I'm not the "bad
guy" here. BTW, we are ALL moderators, no vigilante about it. It is
up to everyone to help self-regulate the politeness level of this
newsgroup. Every post made is critiqued by all who read them. That
is why you posted, isn't it?

This is a newsgroup IS for polite gentleposters, make no mistake.
That is why I brought it up in the first place.


Trumpet

RB

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Jun 20, 2008, 7:04:28 PM6/20/08
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I bet in the intervening years the movie-going public changed also.
How many movies today - or when Legend came out - have the same "legs'?

Not arguing the merits of either. I just wonder if much of the
difference is due to a change in our society and our expectations.

I've not seen "Legend" and it's been so long since I've seen Omega Man
that I hardly recall any of it. but I'll go back and rent it.

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