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Dillon Pyron
Jan 18, 2012, 5:27:54 PM1/18/12
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I don't know who this was, we now have a comdey radio station.
"They aren't going to take our guns away. Everybody is moaning about
that, but it isn't going to happen.
Guy knocks on your door. "Hi, I'm Obama's gun confiscator, please
bring me all of your guns." Like that job will have a bunch of
vacancies."
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"They aren't going to take our guns away. Everybody is moaning about
that, but it isn't going to happen.
Guy knocks on your door. "Hi, I'm Obama's gun confiscator, please
bring me all of your guns." Like that job will have a bunch of
vacancies."
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Mr. K
Jan 20, 2012, 3:54:04 PM1/20/12
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In article <jf7h19$g3f$1...@news.albasani.net>,
Dillon Pyron <dmp...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
# I don't know who this was, we now have a comdey radio station.
#
# "They aren't going to take our guns away. Everybody is moaning about
# that, but it isn't going to happen.
#
# Guy knocks on your door. "Hi, I'm Obama's gun confiscator, please
# bring me all of your guns." Like that job will have a bunch of
# vacancies."
now , with improved body armor, the pig might deserve a "head' shot?
--
Karma, What a concept!
Dillon Pyron <dmp...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
# I don't know who this was, we now have a comdey radio station.
#
# "They aren't going to take our guns away. Everybody is moaning about
# that, but it isn't going to happen.
#
# Guy knocks on your door. "Hi, I'm Obama's gun confiscator, please
# bring me all of your guns." Like that job will have a bunch of
# vacancies."
now , with improved body armor, the pig might deserve a "head' shot?
--
Karma, What a concept!
Dillon Pyron
Jan 23, 2012, 7:57:46 PM1/23/12
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Thus spake "Mr. K" <geor...@toast.net> :
#In article <jf7h19$g3f$1...@news.albasani.net>,
## I don't know who this was, we now have a comdey radio station.
##
## "They aren't going to take our guns away. Everybody is moaning about
## that, but it isn't going to happen.
##
## Guy knocks on your door. "Hi, I'm Obama's gun confiscator, please
## bring me all of your guns." Like that job will have a bunch of
## vacancies."
#
#now , with improved body armor, the pig might deserve a "head' shot?
He's on one side of the door, I'm on the other. Watch one of the
"CSI" type shows for words like "stellate" and "blowback". But as an
x-ray tech I can tell you that contact leaves a pretty dramatic entry.
Most of the time the x-rays were for primary documentation rather than
diagnostic. Sigh.
#In article <jf7h19$g3f$1...@news.albasani.net>,
## I don't know who this was, we now have a comdey radio station.
##
## "They aren't going to take our guns away. Everybody is moaning about
## that, but it isn't going to happen.
##
## Guy knocks on your door. "Hi, I'm Obama's gun confiscator, please
## bring me all of your guns." Like that job will have a bunch of
## vacancies."
#
#now , with improved body armor, the pig might deserve a "head' shot?
He's on one side of the door, I'm on the other. Watch one of the
"CSI" type shows for words like "stellate" and "blowback". But as an
x-ray tech I can tell you that contact leaves a pretty dramatic entry.
Most of the time the x-rays were for primary documentation rather than
diagnostic. Sigh.
CS
Jan 26, 2012, 12:18:05 PM1/26/12
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It'll never happen.
Obama will simply attack the manufacturers of ammunition. A gun without
ammo is just an expensive, clumsy bat.
CS
Obama will simply attack the manufacturers of ammunition. A gun without
ammo is just an expensive, clumsy bat.
CS
SaPeIsMa
Jan 26, 2012, 4:40:11 PM1/26/12
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"CS" <dont...@sears.com> wrote in message
news:jfs1sd$gk3$1...@news.albasani.net...
# It'll never happen.
#
# Obama will simply attack the manufacturers of ammunition. A gun without
# ammo is just an expensive, clumsy bat.
#
Won't happen
The Courts have already stated that to infringe on the ability to buy ammo
is to infringe on the RKBA.
-Kevin R.
Jan 27, 2012, 8:17:10 AM1/27/12
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On Jan 26, 3:40=A0pm, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeI...@HotMail.com> wrote:
# "CS" <donts...@sears.com> wrote in message
#
# news:jfs1sd$gk3$1...@news.albasani.net...
# # It'll never happen.
# #
# # Obama will simply attack the manufacturers of ammunition. =A0A gun with=
out
# # ammo is just an expensive, clumsy bat.
#
# Won't happen
# The Courts have already stated that to infringe on the ability to buy amm=
o
# is to infringe on the RKBA.
#
CS,
Not if you're not restricting the sale of ammunition. You're just
hitting them with so many OSHA/EEO/Homeland Security findings/
Frivolous fines/lawsuits they are forced to either quit or jack the
prices sky high. Add in taxes to ammunition, like they do with
gasoline/tobacco....
# "CS" <donts...@sears.com> wrote in message
#
# news:jfs1sd$gk3$1...@news.albasani.net...
# # It'll never happen.
# #
# # Obama will simply attack the manufacturers of ammunition. =A0A gun with=
out
# # ammo is just an expensive, clumsy bat.
#
# Won't happen
# The Courts have already stated that to infringe on the ability to buy amm=
o
# is to infringe on the RKBA.
#
CS,
Not if you're not restricting the sale of ammunition. You're just
hitting them with so many OSHA/EEO/Homeland Security findings/
Frivolous fines/lawsuits they are forced to either quit or jack the
prices sky high. Add in taxes to ammunition, like they do with
gasoline/tobacco....
Jim Bianchi
Jan 27, 2012, 8:17:11 AM1/27/12
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:40:11 +0000 (UTC), SaPeIsMa wrote:
#
# "CS" <dont...@sears.com> wrote in message
# news:jfs1sd$gk3$1...@news.albasani.net...
# # It'll never happen.
# #
# is to infringe on the RKBA.
Hi guy. I *think* I had at least the relevant cite at one time, but
no more. Can you please provide a pointer to that ruling?
--
ji...@sonic.net
#
# "CS" <dont...@sears.com> wrote in message
# news:jfs1sd$gk3$1...@news.albasani.net...
# # It'll never happen.
# #
# # Obama will simply attack the manufacturers of ammunition. A gun without
# # ammo is just an expensive, clumsy bat.
# # Obama will simply attack the manufacturers of ammunition. A gun without
# #
#
# Won't happen
# The Courts have already stated that to infringe on the ability to buy ammo
# Won't happen
# is to infringe on the RKBA.
Hi guy. I *think* I had at least the relevant cite at one time, but
no more. Can you please provide a pointer to that ruling?
--
ji...@sonic.net
Petey
Jan 27, 2012, 8:17:13 AM1/27/12
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SaPeIsMa wrote:
# #
# is to infringe on the RKBA.
Yeah, and people like NYC's Michael Bloomberg are really intimidated by
these RKBA friendly "courts", eh? ;-)
# #
# # Obama will simply attack the manufacturers of ammunition. A gun without
# # ammo is just an expensive, clumsy bat.
# #
#
# Won't happen
# The Courts have already stated that to infringe on the ability to buy ammo
# #
#
# Won't happen
# is to infringe on the RKBA.
Yeah, and people like NYC's Michael Bloomberg are really intimidated by
these RKBA friendly "courts", eh? ;-)
CS
Jan 27, 2012, 8:17:15 AM1/27/12
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"SaPeIsMa" wrote in message news:jfsh7r$kct$1...@news.albasani.net...
"CS" <dont...@sears.com> wrote in message
news:jfs1sd$gk3$1...@news.albasani.net...
# It'll never happen.
#
# Obama will simply attack the manufacturers of ammunition. A gun without
# ammo is just an expensive, clumsy bat.
#
Won't happen
The Courts have already stated that to infringe on the ability to buy ammo
is to infringe on the RKBA.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Cite? Not trying to be a dick, I only found some non-right-to-buy ammo
rulings, such as laws being unconstitutionally vague, environmental issues,
and other cases having nothing to do with infringement of the 2nd and
ammunition.
I don't think an actual law is really needed. All Obama needs to do is
regulate, tax, and harass ammunition manufacturers until they get priced out
of the market, move out of the US (and thus become "import" items subject to
yet more regulation), or just close their doors.
Anyway, if you can point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it.
CS
"CS" <dont...@sears.com> wrote in message
news:jfs1sd$gk3$1...@news.albasani.net...
# It'll never happen.
#
# Obama will simply attack the manufacturers of ammunition. A gun without
# ammo is just an expensive, clumsy bat.
#
Won't happen
The Courts have already stated that to infringe on the ability to buy ammo
is to infringe on the RKBA.
Cite? Not trying to be a dick, I only found some non-right-to-buy ammo
rulings, such as laws being unconstitutionally vague, environmental issues,
and other cases having nothing to do with infringement of the 2nd and
ammunition.
I don't think an actual law is really needed. All Obama needs to do is
regulate, tax, and harass ammunition manufacturers until they get priced out
of the market, move out of the US (and thus become "import" items subject to
yet more regulation), or just close their doors.
Anyway, if you can point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it.
CS
Tom S.
Jan 27, 2012, 8:17:19 AM1/27/12
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"SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com> wrote in message
news:jfsh7r$kct$1...@news.albasani.net...
#
# "CS" <dont...@sears.com> wrote in message
# news:jfs1sd$gk3$1...@news.albasani.net...
# # It'll never happen.
# #
# # Obama will simply attack the manufacturers of ammunition. A gun without
# # Obama will simply attack the manufacturers of ammunition. A gun without
# # ammo is just an expensive, clumsy bat.
# #
#
# Won't happen
# The Courts have already stated that to infringe on the ability to buy ammo
# #
#
# Won't happen
# is to infringe on the RKBA.
#
Then, too, IIRC, back in the 90's during the Bubba Administration, they
tried to do a confiscation in LA. Something like 90% of the cops called in
sick that day.
I also recall that WAY back, maybe in the 70's or 80's, some town in New
Mexico (Sante Fe?), the cops went on walkout strike and the crime rate
plumetted.
But then the ol' memory hole ain't what it used to be.
Tom S.
Jan 27, 2012, 8:17:21 AM1/27/12
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# Dillon Pyron <dmp...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
#
# I don't know who this was, we now have a comdey radio station.
#
#
# I don't know who this was, we now have a comdey radio station.
#
# "They aren't going to take our guns away. Everybody is moaning about
# that, but it isn't going to happen.
#
# that, but it isn't going to happen.
#
# Guy knocks on your door. "Hi, I'm Obama's gun confiscator, please
# bring me all of your guns." Like that job will have a bunch of
# vacancies."
# bring me all of your guns." Like that job will have a bunch of
It would have to be a joke (though peoples sense of humor isn't what it used
to be a few generations ago) because, consider:
With 80 million gun owners in the US, if even 2% decided to take out the
thugling at the door, it would mean 1.6 million dead, more tha we've lost in
every war Americans have fought since the French & Indian Wars (1.2M ??).
Even ObamaJugen aren't that nuts....hopefully.
Tom S.
Jan 27, 2012, 8:17:22 AM1/27/12
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"SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com> wrote in message
news:jfsh7r$kct$1...@news.albasani.net...
# The Courts have already stated that to infringe on the ability to buy ammo
news:jfsh7r$kct$1...@news.albasani.net...
# is to infringe on the RKBA.
Like that matters?
SaPeIsMa
Jan 27, 2012, 8:14:47 PM1/27/12
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It was tried recently with the move to hold gun manufacturer's liable for
criminal use of their product
If failed
If memory serves the precedent is not with ammo, but goes further back to
printer's ink/supplies and the First Amendment
I will try to dig it up when I have some time.
CS
Jan 28, 2012, 7:30:18 AM1/28/12
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I seem to recall something like that.
Still, the way this administration works, the Constitution doesn't get much
consideration.
Obama has a lot of weapons at his disposal. He can bury ammunition
manufacturers in higher taxes, punishing regulations, environmental
regulations, fees, fines, lawsuits, and God knows what else.
We have a right to smoke and drink, yet higher taxes have been imposed on
these specific activities.
I imagine the same can be done to bullets, putting ammunition out of reach
of the poor, and eventually the rest of us.
Hopefully I'm wrong, and these posts are a waste of time, but I'm afraid I'm
right.
CS
Still, the way this administration works, the Constitution doesn't get much
consideration.
Obama has a lot of weapons at his disposal. He can bury ammunition
manufacturers in higher taxes, punishing regulations, environmental
regulations, fees, fines, lawsuits, and God knows what else.
We have a right to smoke and drink, yet higher taxes have been imposed on
these specific activities.
I imagine the same can be done to bullets, putting ammunition out of reach
of the poor, and eventually the rest of us.
Hopefully I'm wrong, and these posts are a waste of time, but I'm afraid I'm
right.
CS
Dillon Pyron
Jan 28, 2012, 7:30:21 AM1/28/12
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# Not if you're not restricting the sale of ammunition. You're just
#hitting them with so many OSHA/EEO/Homeland Security findings/
#Frivolous fines/lawsuits they are forced to either quit or jack the
#prices sky high. Add in taxes to ammunition, like they do with
#gasoline/tobacco....
Where are the military going to get ammo from? Even better, where
will LE? You can't say "oh, it's an unsafe environment to make
civilian ammo, but not military" (okay, you can say anthing you want,
just have to prove it in court).
Right now the military accounts for a large percentage of the ammo
made in the US, but the Army has already indicated that in FY 14 they
will probably reduce that by as much as 15%. And keep decreasing.
"We" are the ones who subsidized the military and LE purchases.
David Griffith
Jan 29, 2012, 8:48:32 AM1/29/12
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SaPeIsMa <SaPe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
# It was tried recently with the move to hold gun manufacturer's liable for
# criminal use of their product
# If failed
# If memory serves the precedent is not with ammo, but goes further back to
# printer's ink/supplies and the First Amendment
# I will try to dig it up when I have some time.
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minneapolis_Star_Tribune_Company_v._Commissioner
--
David Griffith
davidmy...@acm.org <--- Put my last name where it belongs
# It was tried recently with the move to hold gun manufacturer's liable for
# criminal use of their product
# If failed
# If memory serves the precedent is not with ammo, but goes further back to
# printer's ink/supplies and the First Amendment
# I will try to dig it up when I have some time.
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minneapolis_Star_Tribune_Company_v._Commissioner
--
David Griffith
davidmy...@acm.org <--- Put my last name where it belongs
Dudley
Jan 29, 2012, 8:48:33 AM1/29/12
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A lot of todays military ammo is NOT made in America. Example: Germany
is a large supplier of 9mm. Outsourcing has reached even our national
defense. In this instance we can thank Cheney and Rumsfeld, but the
moron in chief at present is stying the course as well.
What the past five presidents have done to this country may just be
pound in the final nails of oour collective coffins.
is a large supplier of 9mm. Outsourcing has reached even our national
defense. In this instance we can thank Cheney and Rumsfeld, but the
moron in chief at present is stying the course as well.
What the past five presidents have done to this country may just be
pound in the final nails of oour collective coffins.
Tom S.
Jan 30, 2012, 4:53:51 AM1/30/12
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"Dillon Pyron" <dmp...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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## Not if you're not restricting the sale of ammunition. You're just
# #hitting them with so many OSHA/EEO/Homeland Security findings/
# #Frivolous fines/lawsuits they are forced to either quit or jack the
# #prices sky high. Add in taxes to ammunition, like they do with
# #gasoline/tobacco....
#
# Where are the military going to get ammo from?
The arsenals, which have manufacturihng capacity.
Dillon Pyron
Feb 15, 2012, 5:07:59 PM2/15/12
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Thus spake "Tom S." <tms...@cox.com> :
#
#"Dillon Pyron" <dmp...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
#news:jg0pot$fre$1...@news.albasani.net...
### Not if you're not restricting the sale of ammunition. You're just
## #hitting them with so many OSHA/EEO/Homeland Security findings/
## #Frivolous fines/lawsuits they are forced to either quit or jack the
## #prices sky high. Add in taxes to ammunition, like they do with
## #gasoline/tobacco....
##
## Where are the military going to get ammo from?
#
#The arsenals, which have manufacturihng capacity.
#
Are you sure? The once fired "military" brass I have (5.56 NATO) is
imprinted Federal. Now, admittedly, we have primers, brass, bullets
and powder made by outside contractors, so that leaves only labor by
the government. I honestly don't think that "the arsenals" have all
of that capacity.
The three currently proposed rounds for the Army's propsed support
rifleman, the guy with the longer ranged M4, are all of civilian
origin.
#
#"Dillon Pyron" <dmp...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
#news:jg0pot$fre$1...@news.albasani.net...
### Not if you're not restricting the sale of ammunition. You're just
## #hitting them with so many OSHA/EEO/Homeland Security findings/
## #Frivolous fines/lawsuits they are forced to either quit or jack the
## #prices sky high. Add in taxes to ammunition, like they do with
## #gasoline/tobacco....
##
## Where are the military going to get ammo from?
#
#The arsenals, which have manufacturihng capacity.
#
Are you sure? The once fired "military" brass I have (5.56 NATO) is
imprinted Federal. Now, admittedly, we have primers, brass, bullets
and powder made by outside contractors, so that leaves only labor by
the government. I honestly don't think that "the arsenals" have all
of that capacity.
The three currently proposed rounds for the Army's propsed support
rifleman, the guy with the longer ranged M4, are all of civilian
origin.
Dillon Pyron
Feb 15, 2012, 5:08:01 PM2/15/12
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Thus spake "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com> :
#
#
#It was tried recently with the move to hold gun manufacturer's liable for
#criminal use of their product
# If failed
I remeber at about the same time as one of the cities filed their suit
that a group in Arizona announced that they were going to file a suit
against Chevrolet since they were liable for criminal use of their
products. After all, you need a car to committ DUI. And I think you
also need a car to do a drive-by. I think it was more of a "reducto
ad absurdum" case that was never filed. But, as absured as it was
reduced to, I think the point was equally "valid". Bars have been
held responsible for letting drunks out to drive, but I've never heard
of Budweiser being held responsible (although serving Bud Light is a
criminal act in and of itself, IMnsHO)
#
#If memory serves the precedent is not with ammo, but goes further back to
#printer's ink/supplies and the First Amendment
#I will try to dig it up when I have some time.
Please do.
Italian law holds that, even for an accident, someone is to blame. Ask
Frank Williams. (Ayrton Senna)
#
#
#It was tried recently with the move to hold gun manufacturer's liable for
#criminal use of their product
# If failed
I remeber at about the same time as one of the cities filed their suit
that a group in Arizona announced that they were going to file a suit
against Chevrolet since they were liable for criminal use of their
products. After all, you need a car to committ DUI. And I think you
also need a car to do a drive-by. I think it was more of a "reducto
ad absurdum" case that was never filed. But, as absured as it was
reduced to, I think the point was equally "valid". Bars have been
held responsible for letting drunks out to drive, but I've never heard
of Budweiser being held responsible (although serving Bud Light is a
criminal act in and of itself, IMnsHO)
#
#If memory serves the precedent is not with ammo, but goes further back to
#printer's ink/supplies and the First Amendment
#I will try to dig it up when I have some time.
Please do.
Italian law holds that, even for an accident, someone is to blame. Ask
Frank Williams. (Ayrton Senna)
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