220 Swift
C & E
is sufficiently delicate that I have had to abandon shotgun shooting. This
makes me wonder about a 220's recoil. It's actually a moot point in as much
as I don't have a problem firing a .25-06. Back to the moot point at hand.
I also realize that felt recoil is an individual tolerance sort of thing so
I'm asking what it compares to in "your world". I know - it's goofey but it
keeps the rec doing business. Hmmm, I wonder how far a piece of gnocci
would travel if stuffed in 12 ga shell and powered by....
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# I've got a hankerin' for a new rifle in 220 Swift. Unfortunately, my back
# is sufficiently delicate that I have had to abandon shotgun shooting. This
# makes me wonder about a 220's recoil. It's actually a moot point in as much
# as I don't have a problem firing a .25-06. Back to the moot point at hand.
# I also realize that felt recoil is an individual tolerance sort of thing so
# I'm asking what it compares to in "your world". (snipped)
Very similar to a 22-250.
Don
WangoTango
says...
# I've got a hankerin' for a new rifle in 220 Swift. Unfortunately, my back
# is sufficiently delicate that I have had to abandon shotgun shooting. This
# makes me wonder about a 220's recoil. It's actually a moot point in as much
# as I don't have a problem firing a .25-06. Back to the moot point at hand.
# I also realize that felt recoil is an individual tolerance sort of thing so
# I'm asking what it compares to in "your world". I know - it's goofey but it
# keeps the rec doing business. Hmmm, I wonder how far a piece of gnocci
# would travel if stuffed in 12 ga shell and powered by....
#
Since my Swift is strictly a bench gun for killin' P-Dogs, I have had an
extra couple of inches added to the barrel, a good brake installed, 14
ounces of lead inletted into the fore stock, a mercury recoil reducer in
the butt stock, and a big squishy pad installed. It kicks about as much
as a 22Mag (maybe less). Which can come in handy when you are throwing
lead out there all day.
I shot a guy's custom 300 Win Mag that weighed about 40 lbs, it didn't
kick much either...... :)
TimR
# I shot a guy's custom 300 Win Mag that weighed about 40 lbs, it didn't
# kick much either...... :)
#
Just idly thinking:
Q. Why couldn't we set up a rifle on a recoil system like a howitzer
has, where the barrel moves backward against a spring/shockabsorber
system?
A. Because the scope would be embedded 4 inches into your forehead.
Q. Then why couldn't we mount the scope cantilevered above the
barrel?
A. Because we can't guarantee the moving parts return precisely to
battery, so we need the scope on the receiver/barrel, .
Q. Then why couldn't we use a digital scope on the barrel, with the
screen cantilevered?
A. Hmmm.
I'd think a 4 inch recoil travel could turn a 7 mm Mag into a .22 Mag,
without weight or accuracy tradeoffs. It would be expensive though.
Robert Lewis
enough so that you won't be able to see the impact through the scope, but
you'll barely feel it on your shoulder.
Robert in the hills of Tennessee
SaPeIsMa
Flash
Well, you could try this:
http://www.blackhawk.com/product/SpecOps-Adjustable-Shotgun-Stock,1158,165.htm
or this:
http://www.nokick.com/Enidine_Shot_Shock_p/mesa%20tactical%2092170.htm
or this:
http://www.shootersemporium.net/
for starters.
Flash
Jim
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# Came across this accidentally
# Enjoy
#
# http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb78jqWOM9g
Enjoy? It was great!
Long Ranger
--
Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go
mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one
--Charles Mackay
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# Came across this accidentally
# Enjoy
#
# http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb78jqWOM9g
Yet another voice-over of that famous clip. Very entertaining.
John Kepler
# Well, you could try this:http://www.blackhawk.com/product/SpecOps-Adjustable-Shotgun-Stock,115...
#
# or this:http://www.nokick.com/Enidine_Shot_Shock_p/mesa%20tactical%2092170.htm
#
# or this:http://www.shootersemporium.net/
#
# for starters.
#
# Flash
So you're the guy that's been keeping Ronco in business for all these
years! Of course ALLof those gizmos work "as advertised" or better!
It's on the internet....it HAS to be true! On the up-side, you can
probably store'em right next to your "Veg-O-Matic" and "Pocket
Fisherman"!
Long Ranger
# So you're the guy that's been keeping Ronco in business for all these
# years! Of course ALLof those gizmos work "as advertised" or better!
# It's on the internet....it HAS to be true! On the up-side, you can
# probably store'em right next to your "Veg-O-Matic" and "Pocket
# Fisherman"!
I always carry the Ginsu in my tackle box too.
ka...@nventure.com
# I've got a hankerin' for a new rifle in 220 Swift.
I burned a lot of powder through the barrels- yes barrels, of mine.
I just plain burned out the original barrel. I also have a standard
.222 and a heavy barrel .222 mag. So the only justification to
have the swift is to push the hell out of it. So I pushed 52 grainers
@ over 4000 ft/sec. The recoil of even these cannot be said to be
anything but light to moderate, and not anything like that of the
.25-06. I know. I also have a heavy barreled .25-06 varminter
that's used on the larger critters, or when the range gets well over
400 yds.
Even without really pushing it, the brass flows. So a good, I mean
really good, case and neck trimmer are mandatory. Also the cases
do not last long. The .222 cases will last forever, as long as you
don't step on them.
Do not push the light cased varmint bullets too much above their
recommended maximum, because these will blow up in mid flight
due to the centrifugal forces cased by the spin.
But it's really something when you connect with a crow or a starling
inside of about 150 yds.
So have fun
D.Y.K.
ka...@nventure.com
I put a lot of bullets through the barrels of mine.
Yes, barrels. I just burned out the original, so I
had to rebarrel it.
I have a standard .222 and a heavy barrel .222 mag.
So I felt the only reason to have a swift was to push
the hell out of it.
Even when pushing 52 grains @ over 4000 ft/sec.,
the recoil is moderate, and not at all like the 25.06.
I know, I also have a heavy barrel 25.06 varminter.
At the velocities I pushed the bullets, a good, that is,
a very good case and neck trimmer are mandatory.
Furthermore, the cases do not last long.
Do not push the light jacketed varmint bullets too
fast. These will blow up in flight due to the centrifugal
force.
But it's really something when you connect with a
crow or starling at less than a 150 yds.
Have fun.
D.Y.K.
ralleyrat
# I've got a hankerin' for a new rifle in 220 Swift. �Unfortunately, my back
# is sufficiently delicate that I have had to abandon shotgun shooting. �This
# makes me wonder about a 220's recoil. �It's actually a moot point in as much
# as I don't have a problem firing a .25-06. �Back to the moot point at hand.
# I also realize that felt recoil is an individual tolerance sort of thing so
# I'm asking what it compares to in "your world". �I know - it's goofey but it
# keeps the rec doing business. �Hmmm, I wonder how far a piece of gnocci
# would travel if stuffed in 12 ga shell and powered by....
#
'.220 vs 25-06, similar velocity, far lighter bullet, less felt
recoil.
gnocci............ verrrry interesting!
Gunner Asch
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ROFLMAO!!!!