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Peter Franks

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May 13, 2008, 7:59:02 PM5/13/08
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I called the police departments (5/13/2008) for each of these cities to
get some commentary regarding their city ordinances and recent state law
changes regarding carrying concealed w/ permit in their jurisdictions.

Boulder City (police department, police officer)
She indicated that the city ordinance prohibits the carrying of a
concealed weapon, regardless of permit. The weapon must be stored (in a
case), unloaded -- the official response. However, she said that she
(and all officers) know realize that the city ordinance conflicts with
state law, and therefore the unofficial comment is that if you are
legally and lawfully carrying concealed (with permit), there won't be a
problem. I asked her if she encounters this situation, and she said
'all the time' and that she had never issued a citation.

North Las Vegas (police department, records office)
She said that if you had a permit for CCW, there was no problem
traveling through their jurisdiction w/ a concealed weapon, legally and
lawfully carried. If you don't have a permit, restrictions are similar
to those of BC (weapon in case, unloaded, magazine removed).

I realize that this is all unofficial and shouldn't necessarily be
relied upon. Official policy for BC is clear (see city ordinances), yet
contradictory w/ state law (next steps would be to have the city council
make necessary ordinance changes), and I neglected to get a link to
official policy from NLV.


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Wayne

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May 14, 2008, 8:32:34 AM5/14/08
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This is very depressing for someone in CA who is considering moving to
NV...... :(

Ron Bloom

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May 14, 2008, 8:33:28 AM5/14/08
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I went to the NLV police dept and they told me that if I have a LVMPD CCW,
it was ok. I went there because I read the NLV ordinance and it said
something about NLV having a permit also, to be renewed on a yearly basis.

Jim

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May 14, 2008, 9:18:33 PM5/14/08
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As bad as your destination may be, it's better than your current location.

"Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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#
# This is very depressing for someone in CA who is considering moving to
# NV...... :(

Gunny_2008

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May 14, 2008, 9:18:36 PM5/14/08
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"Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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#
# This is very depressing for someone in CA who is considering moving to
# NV...... :(
#


Don't sweat it. Nevada is basically gun-friendly. The individual towns and
counties are gradually accepting that the Legislature meant what it said.
Read further down in the postings about Virginia City. They are taking
action to repeal their conflicting firearms ordinances. The City of Fallon
hasn't officially repealed their ordinances, but the City Attorney has sent
a formal letter to the PD informing them that those city laws are null and
void because they are in violation with state statutes and are not to be
enforced. Eventually the Vegas metroplex will have to fall in line with the
rest of the state.

Peter Franks

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May 14, 2008, 9:18:48 PM5/14/08
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Wayne wrote:
# This is very depressing for someone in CA who is considering moving to
# NV...... :(

How come?

George

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May 14, 2008, 9:19:06 PM5/14/08
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All Clark County CCW applications are handled by the Las Vegas Metropolitan
Police Department. More info here:
http://www.lvmpd.com/permits/firearms_concealed.html .
They also process Curio and Relics FFLS.
George in Las Vegas

Wayne

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May 15, 2008, 7:41:25 AM5/15/08
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"Peter Franks" <peter....@cox.net> wrote in message
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# Wayne wrote:
# # This is very depressing for someone in CA who is considering moving to
# # NV...... :(
#
# How come?
#
Because the incidents are examples of overzealous gun control attempts, and
I had hoped to get away from that by moving. However.....as pointed out by
someone else.....NV beats the hell out of CA for being gun friendly.

Peter Franks

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May 16, 2008, 7:30:02 AM5/16/08
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Wayne wrote:
# "Peter Franks" <peter....@cox.net> wrote in message
# news:g0g31o$d59$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
# # Wayne wrote:
# # # This is very depressing for someone in CA who is considering moving to
# # # NV...... :(

# #
# # How come?
# #

# Because the incidents are examples of overzealous gun control attempts, and
# I had hoped to get away from that by moving. However.....as pointed out by
# someone else.....NV beats the hell out of CA for being gun friendly.

The way that I see it is that gun control is decreasing.

I've found NV to be a very gun-friendly state -- open carry,
straightforward CCW, and lots of places to shoot, both in-town and
out-of-town.

Herb Martin

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May 16, 2008, 3:40:13 PM5/16/08
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"Peter Franks" <peter....@cox.net> wrote in message
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# Wayne wrote:
# # "Peter Franks" <peter....@cox.net> wrote in message
# # news:g0g31o$d59$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
# # # Wayne wrote:
# # # # This is very depressing for someone in CA who is considering moving
# to
# # # # NV...... :(
# # #
# # # How come?

# # #
# # Because the incidents are examples of overzealous gun control attempts,
# and
# # I had hoped to get away from that by moving. However.....as pointed out
# by
# # someone else.....NV beats the hell out of CA for being gun friendly.
#
# The way that I see it is that gun control is decreasing.

Anecdotally, I believe this to be true as well.

Most laws being passed are to extend CHL, or open carry, or to remove
egregious gun control laws, or to add related self-defense laws such as
the Castle Doctrine.

There are exceptions such as Kalifornia.

# I've found NV to be a very gun-friendly state -- open carry,
# straightforward CCW, and lots of places to shoot, both in-town and
# out-of-town.

NV likely needs a strong open carry group like the ones in Virginia
and Pennsylvania (presuming they don't have one quite so organized
which I BELIEVE to be the case but could be wrong.)

Likely NV really has had good policies so the motivation for such
groups to become activists has been small, while in VA and PA
there has been a true need for activists to remind everyone, especially
the cops, that these actions are legal --by the law abiding.

Wayne

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May 16, 2008, 3:40:18 PM5/16/08
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"Peter Franks" <peter....@cox.net> wrote in message
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# Wayne wrote:
# # "Peter Franks" <peter....@cox.net> wrote in message
# # news:g0g31o$d59$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
# # # Wayne wrote:
# # # # This is very depressing for someone in CA who is considering moving
# to
# # # # NV...... :(
# # #
# # # How come?

# # #
# # Because the incidents are examples of overzealous gun control attempts,
# and
# # I had hoped to get away from that by moving. However.....as pointed out
# by
# # someone else.....NV beats the hell out of CA for being gun friendly.
#
# The way that I see it is that gun control is decreasing.
#
# I've found NV to be a very gun-friendly state -- open carry,
# straightforward CCW, and lots of places to shoot, both in-town and
# out-of-town.
#
The only thing left now....is to convince the wife to move......

JEB

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May 20, 2008, 7:07:16 AM5/20/08
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Just don't move to the Las Vegas area - try Northern Nevada, gun owners are
welcome.

John

Gunny_2008

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May 20, 2008, 7:30:31 PM5/20/08
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"JEB" <mox...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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# Just don't move to the Las Vegas area - try Northern Nevada, gun owners
are
# welcome.
#
# John

On the other hand, flooding the Vegas area with legal enthusiastic gun
owners could be beneficial. There must be thousands there already. They
just need to get organized and start some political action committees to
throw the rascals out of power. The new gun park should help get them
together socially and help them form some pressure groups.

Peter Franks

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May 20, 2008, 7:30:34 PM5/20/08
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JEB wrote:
# Just don't move to the Las Vegas area - try Northern Nevada, gun owners are
# welcome.

What are you talking about? I live in LV, and gun owners are more than
welcome here.

Peter Franks

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May 20, 2008, 8:46:04 PM5/20/08
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Gunny_2008 wrote:
# "JEB" <mox...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
# news:g0ubd4$rgb$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
# # Just don't move to the Las Vegas area - try Northern Nevada, gun owners
# are
# # welcome.
# #
# # John
#
# On the other hand, flooding the Vegas area with legal enthusiastic gun
# owners could be beneficial. There must be thousands there already. They
# just need to get organized and start some political action committees to
# throw the rascals out of power. The new gun park should help get them
# together socially and help them form some pressure groups.

How much time and energy do you put into your efforts up there?

Gunny_2008

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May 21, 2008, 7:40:23 AM5/21/08
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"Peter Franks" <peter....@cox.net> wrote in message
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# Gunny_2008 wrote:
# # "JEB" <mox...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
# # news:g0ubd4$rgb$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
# # # Just don't move to the Las Vegas area - try Northern Nevada, gun
owners
# # are
# # # welcome.
# # #
# # # John

# #
# # On the other hand, flooding the Vegas area with legal enthusiastic gun
# # owners could be beneficial. There must be thousands there already.
They
# # just need to get organized and start some political action committees to
# # throw the rascals out of power. The new gun park should help get them
# # together socially and help them form some pressure groups.
#
# How much time and energy do you put into your efforts up there?


Our club, Stillwater Firearms Association, gets very involved with NV
legislative affairs. Our members correspond with local and state
legislators frequently, keeping them current on firearms issues. Members of
our club, along with Board Members and Officers attended several of the 2007
legislative sessions and actually testified in favor of and against various
firearms bills. In addition to that, we maintain a huge email and snailmail
list that we used quite effectively to literally bombard the assemblymen and
senators when we caught them slipping on some of the bills. (We actually had
one state legislator contact us to say he was going to support our cause and
would we please tell our members to quit writing him. Ha ha.) Sure, it
takes some time, but the results are worth it. It really helps your impact
and credibility if you are a member of an organization. Instead of just
representing one lone voice in the wilderness, you stand up and say, "I am
xxxxxxx and I am representing XYZ Association, a club of over 400 active
concerned VOTERS. We strongly support/oppose this amendment because....
and we intend to track this bill and will inform all of our members just who
is supporting and opposing it." It's actually kind of fun. You don't
always win 100%, but you do win some issues. That makes it worthwhile.
Everyone complains about the Vegas gun laws, but I just have never heard of
any clubs in the Vegas area getting together to try to influence their local
laws or state laws. Maybe they have and I just haven't heard about it.
I'm hoping it will come to be in time for the 2009 legislative session.

Brian Bunin

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May 22, 2008, 8:43:02 AM5/22/08
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In article <g111n7$mut$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>, "Gunny_2008" <patmag...@hotmail.com> wrote:
#
#"Peter Franks" <peter....@cox.net> wrote in message
#news:g0vrcc$acc$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
## Gunny_2008 wrote:
## # "JEB" <mox...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
## # news:g0ubd4$rgb$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
## # # Just don't move to the Las Vegas area - try Northern Nevada, gun
#owners
## # are
## # # welcome.
## # #
## # # John
## #
## # On the other hand, flooding the Vegas area with legal enthusiastic gun
## # owners could be beneficial. There must be thousands there already.
#They
## # just need to get organized and start some political action committees to
## # throw the rascals out of power. The new gun park should help get them
## # together socially and help them form some pressure groups.
##
## How much time and energy do you put into your efforts up there?
#
#
#Our club, Stillwater Firearms Association, gets very involved with NV
#legislative affairs. Our members correspond with local and state
#legislators frequently, keeping them current on firearms issues. Members of
#our club, along with Board Members and Officers attended several of the 2007
#legislative sessions and actually testified in favor of and against various
#firearms bills. In addition to that, we maintain a huge email and snailmail
#list that we used quite effectively to literally bombard the assemblymen and
#senators when we caught them slipping on some of the bills. (We actually had
#one state legislator contact us to say he was going to support our cause and
#would we please tell our members to quit writing him. Ha ha.) Sure, it
#takes some time, but the results are worth it. It really helps your impact
#and credibility if you are a member of an organization. Instead of just
#representing one lone voice in the wilderness, you stand up and say, "I am
#xxxxxxx and I am representing XYZ Association, a club of over 400 active
#concerned VOTERS. We strongly support/oppose this amendment because....
#and we intend to track this bill and will inform all of our members just who
#is supporting and opposing it." It's actually kind of fun. You don't
#always win 100%, but you do win some issues. That makes it worthwhile.
#Everyone complains about the Vegas gun laws, but I just have never heard of
#any clubs in the Vegas area getting together to try to influence their local
#laws or state laws. Maybe they have and I just haven't heard about it.
#I'm hoping it will come to be in time for the 2009 legislative session.
#

There were at least two orgs from Vegas that testified during the Bill
hearings while I was there to speak. Neither were competition orgs. One was
tied to the new range and I can't recall who the other was.

Gunny_2008

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May 22, 2008, 8:08:40 PM5/22/08
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That's great news. In politics you really do have to be the sqeaky wheel.
I hope we see even more participation for next year's session. Maybe we can
get even more progress than last year. Keeping my fingers crossed.

George

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Jun 25, 2008, 7:21:46 AM6/25/08
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# There were at least two orgs from Vegas that testified during the Bill
# hearings while I was there to speak. Neither were competition orgs. One
# was
# tied to the new range and I can't recall who the other was.

Was Silver State Shooting Sport Association one of the organizations. I was
a member but time kept me from doing much besides taking my kid to their
shoots.
Here is there web site: http://www.silverstateshooting.org/
George in Las Vegas


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In article <g3t9oa$42u$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>, " George" <gk...@cox.net> wrote:
## There were at least two orgs from Vegas that testified during the Bill
## hearings while I was there to speak. Neither were competition orgs. One
## was
## tied to the new range and I can't recall who the other was.
#
#
#
#Was Silver State Shooting Sport Association one of the organizations. I was
#a member but time kept me from doing much besides taking my kid to their
#shoots.
#Here is there web site: http://www.silverstateshooting.org/
#George in Las Vegas

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/74th/Minutes/Senate/GA/Final/548.pdf

Yep, Dolores McNamara, Silver State Shooting Association

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