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Greg Palmer

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Dec 30, 2009, 12:45:32 PM12/30/09
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I got a good deal on one of these last week. Seems to be a nice little
gun, aside from one thing --

If it's is in the lock backed position and a magazine is inserted with
any force, the slide releases by itself. I've never had a gun that
does this before and it's a bit worrysome. Anyone know what could be
causing this to happen?


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Dec 30, 2009, 2:35:31 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30, 10:45�am, Greg Palmer <greg...@gmail.com> wrote:
# I got a good deal on one of these last week. Seems to be a nice little
# gun, aside from one thing --
#
# If it's is in the lock backed position and a magazine is inserted with
# any force, the slide releases by itself. I've never had a gun that
# does this before and it's a bit worrysome. Anyone know what could be
# causing this to happen?
#
Worn slide lock or mating notch in the slide. Good luck with parts!
An ace gunsmith could probably TIG up either or both and recut, would
cost more than the gun's worth. Might explain your "good deal"...

Stan

RONSERESURPLUS

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Dec 30, 2009, 2:35:27 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30, 12:45�pm, Greg Palmer <greg...@gmail.com> wrote:
# I got a good deal on one of these last week. Seems to be a nice little
# gun, aside from one thing --
#
# If it's is in the lock backed position and a magazine is inserted with
# any force, the slide releases by itself. I've never had a gun that
# does this before and it's a bit worrysome. Anyone know what could be
# causing this to happen?
#
# Hello Greg

RON L here - SERE SURPLUS

Off the top of my Head and with out seeing it I can think of a few
things what wouild allow what your talkig about to happen!

1. Slide stop Pin worn and failing to lock open solidly!

2. Worn Notch on the stide to lock the slide open and or hld it!

A few things ya mght try, First of all do you have more than 1
magazine and can try in the gun? If Both mags do it then it's
probabaly the above items #1-2, if it only does it on one mag that
magazine might be defective not locking the slide back as some mags
lock open o the magazine folower? Give that a try and let us know? if
you have 1 mags only ya might try bringing it into a Gun shop and see
if they will allow you to try a magazine from the same gun if they
have it in your gun? Long shot but worth trying before you do this or
that?


RON

Gunner Asch

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Dec 30, 2009, 2:35:35 PM12/30/09
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:45:32 +0000 (UTC), Greg Palmer
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> ...

Check the angle of the back of the notch ..the notch that holds the
slide stop. Some of the slides were a bit "soft" and would change the
angle over time. A very short bit of work with a small three cornered
file will make it perpendicular with the slide again.

Also check the engagement of the slide stop and its fitment to the slide
stop notch.

Im wracking my brain trying to remember if the Astra was one of the very
few pistols that released the slide when one inserted a new magazine..as
a feature, not as something worn. I dont believe that it was, and
should act "normally"

As I recall...the slide stop spring is problematic on this model

http://www.gun-parts.com/astra/

Gunner

> ...

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means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
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Giampingjack

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Dec 30, 2009, 2:35:42 PM12/30/09
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I have see various gun whit this problem:
1- control the spring of the old open
2- control the engagement on the slide of the old open leverage
3 control the dent of the old open leverage
4- control the follover of the magazine
examine all the pieces and the relative, reciprocal clockwork.
frequently the dirty don't permit a solid engagement

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David R.Birch

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:44:32 PM12/30/09
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Greg Palmer wrote:
# I got a good deal on one of these last week. Seems to be a nice little
# gun, aside from one thing --
#
# If it's is in the lock backed position and a magazine is inserted with
# any force, the slide releases by itself. I've never had a gun that
# does this before and it's a bit worrysome. Anyone know what could be
# causing this to happen?

There are semiauto pistols designed to do this, but usually they don't
have an external slide release. My Mauser HSc does this by design.

David

RBnDFW

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:44:35 PM12/30/09
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Giampingjack wrote:
# I have see various gun whit this problem:
# 1- control the spring of the old open
# 2- control the engagement on the slide of the old open leverage
# 3 control the dent of the old open leverage
# 4- control the follover of the magazine
# examine all the pieces and the relative, reciprocal clockwork.
# frequently the dirty don't permit a solid engagement

Is this some sort of code? <G>

What do you mean by "Control..." ?

Gunny_2009

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:44:38 PM12/30/09
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"Greg Palmer" <gre...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hhg3jr$o7$1...@news.albasani.net...
# I got a good deal on one of these last week. Seems to be a nice little
# gun, aside from one thing --
#

# If it's is in the lock backed position and a magazine is inserted with
# any force, the slide releases by itself. I've never had a gun that
# does this before and it's a bit worrysome. Anyone know what could be
# causing this to happen?

I have a new Bersa Thunder that sometimes does that too. Still haven't
narrowed down the cause. I'll experiment with different mags as others have
suggested and look closely at the notch in the side of the slide.

RBnDFW

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:44:37 PM12/30/09
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If those mags are the same as the A75, NOS mags are plentiful and cheap
last I looked.

Greg Palmer

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:44:40 PM12/30/09
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Thanks for the advice, guys. I am going to look at it a little closer
tonight after dinner, and probably take it back over to the Gander
Mountain store where I got it tomorrow and let their gunsmith look it
over. Chances are when they got this in on a trade-in they never put a
loaded mag in there to notice this happening. (Also, it doesn't do it
all the time. Only when you give it a good "whack")

If worse comes to worse, they told me when I picked it up that I've
got 2 weeks to bring it back and get my full purchase price toward
something else. Hopefully it's something easily correctable, though,
as I like the compactness of this one!

Bluehawk99

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Dec 30, 2009, 8:38:21 PM12/30/09
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Greg Palmer wrote:
# If worse comes to worse, they told me when I picked it up that I've
# got 2 weeks to bring it back and get my full purchase price toward
# something else. Hopefully it's something easily correctable, though,
# as I like the compactness of this one!

Certainly it's fixable...the Astra A70 and A80 series were nice guns.
The problem is not a dangerous one...one I could certainly live with.

Giampingjack

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Dec 31, 2009, 8:38:10 AM12/31/09
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are the list of caused....sorry for bad english

TimR

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Dec 31, 2009, 8:38:14 AM12/31/09
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On Dec 30, 7:44�pm, RBnDFW <burkhei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...

It doesn't look like code to me, it looks like a non-native-English
language user doing his best in a foreign language.

I hesitate to criticize this type of post unless I can do as well in
HIS language!

RBnDFW

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Dec 31, 2009, 10:08:22 AM12/31/09
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Giampingjack wrote:
# are the list of caused....sorry for bad english
#

Giampingjack, where are you?

Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:44:54 PM12/31/09
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On Dec 31, 8:08�am, RBnDFW <burkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
# Giampingjack, where are you?

Note the "@iol.it" extension on his email address - it indicates Italy

Giampingjack

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:44:55 PM12/31/09
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Italian, Umbria Region, near Assisi.
self student of english-tongue, not well practiced

Gunner Asch

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:13:47 PM12/31/09
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On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:44:55 +0000 (UTC), "Giampingjack"
<giampi...@iol.it> wrote:

#Italian, Umbria Region, near Assisi.
#self student of english-tongue, not well practiced


Welcome! You are doing far far better than I can do in italiano.

It will be good to see you here often!


Gunner Asch, California, United States of America

RBnDFW

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Jan 4, 2010, 10:03:22 AM1/4/10
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Giampingjack wrote:
# Italian, Umbria Region, near Assisi.
# self student of english-tongue, not well practiced

You can practice here, with my apology for the earlier post.
I spent a week in Rome a few years back, with far less luck in your
language. Fortunately English-speakers were plentiful.

Giampingjack

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