Sinister looking new vine in my yard

[hookn...@gmail.com]

I found this in the thicket above my porch. The place is home to lots of birds, so I suppose they transported it here. Is it time to get out the flamethrower?

https://plus.google.com/photos/111803220312975048591/albums/5886067541861078065/5886067598172669170?pid=5886067598172669170&oid=111803220312975048591

Thanks in advance

Bob

[Natural (Smoking Gun) Girl]

That looks like it could be English Ivy.
http://www.guide-to-houseplants.com/english-ivy.html

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[David Hare-Scott]

It sure is sinister, I can't decide if it is Sicilian ivy or Al Kaida ivy.

D

[David E. Ross]

Definitely English ivy (Hedera helix). This can become quite rampant
and invasive unless it is a dwarf variety (e.g., H. helix 'Hahn's').

I have it growing on my hill in back to stabilize the soil and prevent
erosion. It is mixed with African daisies (Osteospermum fruticosum).
The county advised me against planting only one or the other because
their root grow to a certain depth and form a mat, which could
destabilize the hill. Combining the two, however, works because their
roots go to different depths. At the bottom of the hill is a low slough
wall; I trim both the ivy and daisies from growing over the wall and
into the rose bed below.

I have H. helix 'Hahn's' growing on my mailbox and around my liquidambar
tree (L. styraciflua), both in front. Although this is a dwarf variety,
I still have to trim the mail box about 3-4 times a year and the bed
around the liquidambar 1-2 times a year.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
<http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html>
Gardening diary at <http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary>

[Bob Mulroy]

It has been "dealt with," thanks for all your help.

[Farm1]

<hookn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Flamethrower followed up a week later by poison then an army tank then
repeat as often as required.

[Farm1]

"Bob Mulroy" <hookn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> It has been "dealt with," thanks for all your help.

Heh, heh heh. Another victim lulled into a false sense of security who
thinks he's dealt with the filthy mongrel stuff. He'll be strangled in his
bed by it next and never know what hit him.

[Billy]

In article <kop1fe$s3t$1...@dont-email.me>, "Farm1" <He...@there.sometimes>
wrote:

ROFLMAO Bwahahahahahaha
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[Billy]

In article <koo7nv$8m8$1...@news.albasani.net>,

No reason to check. It is English Ivy you poor bastard.

Flamethrower followed up a week later by poison then an army tank then
repeat as often as required.

[Jeff Layman]

If you don't want it, pull it up now. Don't wait. The leaves have a
sort of waxy coat and it just shrugs off weedkiller - even full strength
glyphosate has little effect once it gets established.

--

Jeff

[David E. Ross]

If you mix some liquid soap with the herbicide, you defeat waxy coats,
fuzzy leaves, and other surfaces that normally will not become wet.

[Jeff Layman]

On 07/06/2013 01:48, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 6/6/13 12:32 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> On 05/06/2013 19:29, hookn...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I found this in the thicket above my porch. The place is home to lots of birds, so I suppose they transported it here. Is it time to get out the flamethrower?
>>>
>>> https://plus.google.com/photos/111803220312975048591/albums/5886067541861078065/5886067598172669170?pid=5886067598172669170&oid=111803220312975048591
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>> If you don't want it, pull it up now. Don't wait. The leaves have a
>> sort of waxy coat and it just shrugs off weedkiller - even full strength
>> glyphosate has little effect once it gets established.
>>
>
> If you mix some liquid soap with the herbicide, you defeat waxy coats,
> fuzzy leaves, and other surfaces that normally will not become wet.

Indeed, but most users won't know that.

Even Monsanto admits there are problems dealing with ivy, but there are
some useful suggestions here (but note that this is really a website for
agricultural use):
http://www.monsanto-ag.co.uk/content.output/173/173/Roundup/Difficult%20Weeds/Ivy.mspx

--

Jeff

[Farm1]

"Jeff Layman" <JMLa...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:kopdtn$5bj$1...@news.albasani.net...

Yup. I've got some Ivy that I really, realy want to be rid of so about 3
months ago I mixed up a really super duper strong dose of glyphosate
combined with Blackberry/tree herbicide and I put this into a plastic milk
carton and added some detergent to try to get through the waxy coat on the
ivy. I shoved a piece of ivy that is about a foot long into the liquid and
then put a spring loaded peg on it to make sure that the leaves stayed
submerged in the liquid.

I checked this arrangement jsut yesterday and the ivy is still submerged but
the most hopeful things I could say about the ivy is that it looks 'tired'.
The milk carton is under shelter so the herbicide hasn't become adulterated
with rain, but there is not a single sign of death in the filthy ivy.

[Farm1]

"David E. Ross" <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
news:korak6$5tf$1...@news.albasani.net...

> On 6/6/13 12:32 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> On 05/06/2013 19:29, hookn...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I found this in the thicket above my porch. The place is home to lots
>>> of birds, so I suppose they transported it here. Is it time to get out
>>> the flamethrower?
>>>
>>> https://plus.google.com/photos/111803220312975048591/albums/5886067541861078065/5886067598172669170?pid=5886067598172669170&oid=111803220312975048591
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>> If you don't want it, pull it up now. Don't wait. The leaves have a
>> sort of waxy coat and it just shrugs off weedkiller - even full strength
>> glyphosate has little effect once it gets established.
>>
>
> If you mix some liquid soap with the herbicide, you defeat waxy coats,
> fuzzy leaves, and other surfaces that normally will not become wet.

But that doesn't work with ivy.

[Frank]

Deer in my neighborhood take care of it.
I can't grow ivy except right next to the house. Even that is sparse.
Stuff I tried to grow on banks will get a good start and disappear in
the winter so it is not their favorite food.

[songbird]

Farm1 wrote:
...

> I checked this arrangement jsut yesterday and the ivy is still submerged but
> the most hopeful things I could say about the ivy is that it looks 'tired'.
> The milk carton is under shelter so the herbicide hasn't become adulterated
> with rain, but there is not a single sign of death in the filthy ivy.

do you have access to a sand blaster?

:)


songbird

[Farm1]

"songbird" <song...@anthive.com> wrote in message
news:ngd98a-...@ID-306963.user.uni-berlin.de...

LOL. I don't know what a sand blaster happens to be but I suspect it would
be the equivalent of an army tank and would remove all the mortar from my
brickwork.

[Farm1]

"Frank" <frankdo...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:kot21o$kn4$1...@dont-email.me...

Well we are starting to have deer appearring in our paddocks so they might
make it up to the house. I am not in favour of this though given the damage
I've read about in north American gardens. I thought that having mobs of
kangaroos was bad enough.

[David Hare-Scott]

Its a machine that fires a stream of sand and air at high speed. It is used
for cleaning large areas of rust or dirt on ships and other, usually metal,
structures. It is quite abrasive and you have to wear protective clothing
to use it. It would probably remove any soft mortar from between your
bricks quite quickly. To re-surface brickwork without cutting into the
mortar (any more than into the brick surface) use a concrete refurbisher
which will abrade the whole surface equally.

D

[songbird]

Farm1 wrote:

>songbird wrote:
>> Farm1 wrote:
>> ...
>>> I checked this arrangement jsut yesterday and the ivy is still submerged
>>> but
>>> the most hopeful things I could say about the ivy is that it looks
>>> 'tired'.
>>> The milk carton is under shelter so the herbicide hasn't become
>>> adulterated
>>> with rain, but there is not a single sign of death in the filthy ivy.
>>
>> do you have access to a sand blaster?
>
> LOL. I don't know what a sand blaster happens to be but I suspect it would
> be the equivalent of an army tank and would remove all the mortar from my
> brickwork.

it is a device used to clean metals of rust or
paint, also to clean surfaces of rocks, bricks,
whatever.

aimed at a plant it would likely take it out
quickly enough. after using just a bit you would
have a surface that would accept herbicides.

and, no you don't want deer without wolves,
wolves at least keep things in check. wolves
would likely help with the too many roos
problem too.


songbird

[Higgs Boson]

> Songbird

Can't you just burn the ivy in a bonfire?

HB
>