That's a great idea, Phoenix, thanks.
I've got a bunch of garlic cloves to plant anyways. Perhaps I will do
that with the rest of my bulbs. Or at least some...
-
theoneflasehaddock
No, his intellect couldn't come up with that. Someone must be helping him.
-
theoneflasehaddock
How about wrapping them in chicken wire, that should slow the squirrels
down. Or put poly bubble foam staked out over the bulbs untill they
start to come up...
>
>-
>theoneflasehaddock
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Shez sh...@oldcity.f2s.com
Shez's Garden at http://www.oldcity.f2s.com/shez/
When encountering squirrel problems, I've found it useful to capture
one of the squirrels, then crucify him on a tiny little cross and
place this in the garden near the vegetables they go for.
You can make a serviceable one out of two popsicle sticks, the best
approach is to use an old shoelace to lash them firmly together at
right angles to one another. Don't use a nail, the wood they make
popsicle sticks from is too light to bear a nail, the sticks will
simply splinter if you do that.
Next capture the squirrel, bait the trap with a clove of garlic, and
for best results cut the garlic open to release the smell in the air.
Finally, get the squirrel out of the cage, wear heavy gardening gloves
for this. A paperclip is best for nailing him to the cross, drive one
end through is little wrist, then wrap the paperclip back around so he
can't escape. Again, don't use nails for this.
Then place this in the garden, being careful not to kill the squirrel,
because that's THE WHOLE POINT, HIS PATHETIC SHRIEKING CRIES FOR HELP
WILL TERRIFY THE SQUIRREL POPULATION FOR MILES AROUND, NOT TO MENTION
YOUR NEIGHBORS WHO PROBABLY HAVE EYES ON YOUR VEGGIES ALSO, DON'T
TRUST THEM. And if it doesn't reduce your problem, WHO CARES, THIS IS
WHAT I CALL FUN!
HTH
--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com
West Bank to be redeveloped as Palestinian Heritage Theme Park.
7 out of 10 Squirrels like garlic for an appetitzer pleasure before they
partake of crocus.I would suggest the use of land or trip mines especially
very tiny bounching bettys.Then again , you might want to think in terms of
constructing a medieval like moat around your garden. I do not think that
catapults will be
nessecary especially if said moats are stocked with crocodiles or piranha..
Just be sure to raise your draw-bridge immediately after leaving your
garden.
you're welcome [ in advance ]
The green gardener,
gurdjieff 0f gormorrah
> -
> theoneflasehaddock
You don't think this is a tiny bit over the top... Mostly moats were
built to keep humans out not Squirrels, and the cost involved would be
such that stocking your whole garden with bulbs for squirrels to eat for
the next hundred years might be slightly cheaper...:)
not that I want to put you down or anything, your ideas are very
imaginative... if somewhat insane...:)
insane? You want effective or you want to skimp on money , penny pincher?
We are talking crocus here ! This is the best cash crop since Zappa's
Montana dental floss ranch !!!
I bet you have a potato in a jelly jar growing a vine in ya
window, don't ya? Yeah, thought so. Leave the aricultural
advice to us experts and you amatrues stick to raising sea
monkeys and mildew.
l0v3,
gurdjieff 0f gormorrah
I came, I saw, and puked
--little oppie cunningham
Nothing wrong with Insane, who wants to be normal... but most of us
don't have the budget to build a moat around the house, Besides the
neighbours might complain. I do live in a semi-detached house.
I don't grow potato vines on the window sill, I have a greenhouse for
potato vines in jars... Orchids, and the like.
Ps most gardeners are insane, )
However you can check out the garden below :)
Why *are* we posting into rec.gardens, anyways?
I'm-a verrrrry confused.
--
Rev. Klyf S²³-M257 the Not-Quite-Sane Fenderson
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"I'm the keeper of the cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it?"
--Ren Hoek
hell, I thought my post were going to alt.underground-dwellers
By the way, does a crocus belong to the same insectivores species as say a
Scapanus Latimus mole?
gurdjieff 0f gormorrah
I wonder if moles make the wrong turn at Alberque also?
--
HellPope Huey
The Church of the Subgenius IS an infant's busy box,
simply a much larger, more sophisticated and SINISTER one,
with buttons for mental illness, violence
and two really nice ones I feel sure represent tits.
"Congratulations, Reg; its a... squid."
- "Men In Black"
"If you've ever had your nipple bitten off by a beaver,
you might be a redneck."
- Jeff Foxworthy
Ahhhh...my departed dear mother-in-law grew orchids. The sweet lady
also had a grocery store rubber tree she planted in the greenhouse
floor, had to keep topping it because it kept hitting the ceiling.
She also managed to get her bird of paradise to blossom consistantly.
Anyway, squirrels.
I have an ongoing battle on with squirrels. They are in my walls,
eating my plants, and driving the cats crazy.
The most satisfying solution is a waffle iron.
Other than that, the best I have been able to do, is to plant
portugese hot peppers around and among my other plants.
See, the little blighters love peppers, the bell peppers are the very
first thing they eat when wandering into my garden. They are not so
good at differentiating between hot and sweet peppers either.
It is truly a sight to see when one of the buggers bites into one of
those hot peppers, they levitate about six feet straight up and then
roll around on the ground pawing at their mouths in a frenzy.
The squirrels also seem to back off a bit if I plant the herbs among
the rest of the plants instead of in their own plot. Most of the
herbs I plant are very fragrant, so I imagine it is a smell thing.
St Johns Wort also puts them off somewhat, but that is only a
consideration if you don't have any grazing animals.
NightMist
--
"It's such a gamble when you get a face"
- Richard Hell
I like orchids, and have several, I usually keep them in the house in
winter, and they go out in the greenhouse in spring.
>
>Anyway, squirrels.
>I have an ongoing battle on with squirrels. They are in my walls,
>eating my plants, and driving the cats crazy.
Don't have a problem with them, though their are tons of trees around,
and I often see them, they never come into my garden, It might be
because I have always had an animal, a dog or cat, or both... Even when
I was in between pets they never bothered me.
>
>The most satisfying solution is a waffle iron.
Knowing my luck, I would hit myself with it :)
>
>Other than that, the best I have been able to do, is to plant
>portugese hot peppers around and among my other plants.
>See, the little blighters love peppers, the bell peppers are the very
>first thing they eat when wandering into my garden. They are not so
>good at differentiating between hot and sweet peppers either.
>It is truly a sight to see when one of the buggers bites into one of
>those hot peppers, they levitate about six feet straight up and then
>roll around on the ground pawing at their mouths in a frenzy.
I don't think they learn very quickly if they keep coming back, if they
don't like smelly herbs, have you tried Fennel it looks lovely a tall
ferny plant and it smells strongly of aniseed, neither dogs nor cats
will go near it
>
>The squirrels also seem to back off a bit if I plant the herbs among
>the rest of the plants instead of in their own plot. Most of the
>herbs I plant are very fragrant, so I imagine it is a smell thing.
>St Johns Wort also puts them off somewhat, but that is only a
>consideration if you don't have any grazing animals.
It could be a problem if you do have grazing animals, as I don't have
any trouble with squirrels or come to think of it rabbits in the house I
am in now, I don't have to worry about my plants, the only things that
can be a problem are birds if you are putting seeds straight onto the
ground... But again my dog is very territorial, and if the birds spend
long on the ground he is out the door and chasing them before they know
what's happening :)
>
>NightMist
Get a herd of Maine Coon Cats and train' 'em to KILL SQUIRRELS!!!
KILL!!! KILL!!!
Ahhh hates Squirrels in mah yard!
Janice
They missed about 2/3 of my coum cyclamen. If I'd know that squirrels hate
cayenne pepper (won't touch the bird feedefs > once when they're sprinkled) I'd
have bought a big cheap bottle of cayennbe and put it all over and around the
bulb
zemedelec
I think we need your expertise. I've always wanted a moat. :)
Froggie
That's really beautiful, Shez. Thanks for sharing.
Froggie
We've got one every spring, but it goes away when the rain quits. Actually
had the guy from the electric company borrow a boat to get to a transformer
to replace a blown fuse once. I'm thinking I don't want to be on the water,
in an aluminum boat, poking at a power line transformer, fiberglass pole or
no. I guess that's why he makes the big bucks.
But it looked cool as hell.
> "gurdjieff 0f gormorrah" <iiiiii@iiiii> wrote in
message>> piranha.. Just be sure to raise your draw-bridge immediately after
>> leaving your garden.
>>
>
> I think we need your expertise. I've always wanted a moat. :)
>
>
> Froggie
You need some squirrel hunting cats.
--
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun
in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to
Canada. So I chose to better myself and learn to fly airplanes."
- George W. Bush May 1984 to the Houston Chronicle
Cheerful Charlie
Thanks for looking....Its always a pleasure to share your garden with
people who appreciate it. :)
a moat is nothing more than a well that is shaped like a cherrio.
You need to know how deep the underground water level is
or if there are underground springs, etc. Take care, because
some springs are only seasonal .
If you live nearby to salt water that can , also, be a problem,
due to sippage and piranha, being strickly fresh water inhibitants,
will not survive. However, crocodiles have no problem existing in
brackest waters.as long as there is an adequent food supply.
If you live in a area that the underground water level is too deep
to be financially feasible for the construction of your moat , do not
despair. Any reputable swimming pool contractor should be able to
fulfill your needs or if ya'll are the " do it yourself types" , a trip
and
inspection of a Water Theme Park should give you all the information
you will probably need
I hope this has helped
gurdjieff 0f gormorrah
fact: cats hate water. a moat will also deter
cats as well as the bushy tailed rodents
--GG
It is rather lovely, that I whole-heartedly admit.
You have a green thumb, for sure, and an eye for
spacing and color placement.
and I bet you have a moat behind that fence.
GG
shez
you're a graceful and nice person. It has been my pleasure to meet you.
GG
>
>wbarwell <wbar...@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
>news:4056a99c$0$17088$811e...@news.mylinuxisp.com...
>> Feeling Froggie wrote:
>>
>> > "gurdjieff 0f gormorrah" <iiiiii@iiiii> wrote in
>> message>> piranha.. Just be sure to raise your draw-bridge immediately
>after
>> >> leaving your garden.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I think we need your expertise. I've always wanted a moat. :)
>> >
>> >
>> > Froggie
>>
>>
>> You need some squirrel hunting cats.
>
>fact: cats hate water. a moat will also deter
>cats as well as the bushy tailed rodents
>
Ah! but if you put in a dry moat (which is much more maintenance
friendly) you could fill it with cats.
My own aesthetic tastes would dictate that it be filled with komodo
dragons. Difficult to import, but self cleaning and a deterent to
unwelcome guests. If you didn't get enough unwelcome guests, it would
run you broke in goats though.
Some of the really old houses in Britain had moats, and they were
emptied, and filled with flowers and bushes, they can be truly
beautiful, But my favourite old house with its own moat, has bridges
over the moat into the house. Its Elizabethan.. And you can stand on the
bridges and throw fish food in for the carp, Its a seething mass of fish
as they push, shove, and jump over each other to get to the fish food...
I spend a fortune on fish food when I visit their
Most of the adults wont do it, though you can see by their faces they
would love to, the kids will though, and me of course... But I cant
imagine being so old that you cant do something childish now and again
for the sheer enjoyment of it. :)
You're both great. I think I remember Shez kicking the soc.men asses
with us a while back, too. heheh
Froggie
Shez, that is absolutely gorgeous! I wish I could be in one place long
enough to have a garden. Get artsy with it. Plant the herbs I'm always
looking for.....
What's the grass in your garden? The clumps of wild looking grasses?
Jack-in-the-Pulpit is something I haven't seen for Years! I'd like to know
where you live, that things grow so beautifully. Thank you for the view into
a part of your life that you obviously thoroughly enjoy. :)
kate~
but what fun is cats in the moat without crocks?
hell, I know I am gonna hear about that line...
Shhh was just a joke, I swear it was but a joke.
correct me if I am wrong but a dry moat is kinda equal to a ditch.
>
> My own aesthetic tastes would dictate that it be filled with komodo
> dragons. Difficult to import, but self cleaning and a deterent to
> unwelcome guests. If you didn't get enough unwelcome guests, it would
> run you broke in goats though.
why would said guest have to be "unwelcome"
GG
>
>NightMist <nigh...@uir.zzn.com> wrote in message
>news:40575f0d...@news.madbbs.com...
>> On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:19:26 -0600, "gurdjieff 0f gormorrah"
>> <iiiiii@iiiii> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >wbarwell <wbar...@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
>> >news:4056a99c$0$17088$811e...@news.mylinuxisp.com...
>> >> Feeling Froggie wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > "gurdjieff 0f gormorrah" <iiiiii@iiiii> wrote in
>> >> message>> piranha.. Just be sure to raise your draw-bridge immediately
>> >after
>> >> >> leaving your garden.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I think we need your expertise. I've always wanted a moat. :)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Froggie
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> You need some squirrel hunting cats.
>> >
>> >fact: cats hate water. a moat will also deter
>> >cats as well as the bushy tailed rodents
>> >
>> Ah! but if you put in a dry moat (which is much more maintenance
>> friendly) you could fill it with cats.
>
> but what fun is cats in the moat without crocks?
This is America man!
Alligators are what we have here.
Of course our alligators are really fresh water crocs, but that is OK,
because the african croc is really an alligator and....Oh fuck it.
Alligators, get it right. In America we have alligators.
>
> hell, I know I am gonna hear about that line...
> Shhh was just a joke, I swear it was but a joke.
Just this once I'll let you live unscathed.
>
> correct me if I am wrong but a dry moat is kinda equal to a ditch.
Well, yeah, sort of.
But a wet moat is kinda equal to a ditch too.
>
>>
>> My own aesthetic tastes would dictate that it be filled with komodo
>> dragons. Difficult to import, but self cleaning and a deterent to
>> unwelcome guests. If you didn't get enough unwelcome guests, it would
>> run you broke in goats though.
>
>why would said guest have to be "unwelcome"
>
Now then, you don't want the really welcome guests to get eaten in the
moat do you? All those nubile young women with their pneumatic
thighs? At least you don't want them to be eaten on the way _in_ to
the house.
Blush, }
Thank you kindly....both of you...
Soc men is fairly easy to set light to, I am still surprised some of
the more out of touch members are not on show in a museum of
antiquities,
I am sure in time you will have your own garden, Gardners cant stay away
from the earth for long, and somehow or other they always manage to find
a little patch of earth they can call their own.
I know a lot of grasses hon. The one I was asking about was that little
clump in the picture, the round one? I'd appreciate anything you can give
tho, ty ;)
>
> I am sure in time you will have your own garden, Gardners cant stay away
> from the earth for long, and somehow or other they always manage to find
> a little patch of earth they can call their own.
*heh* Even if it's not my own, I dig! Even if it's just my feet in the soil
*chuckle* Oceans and good, old, smelly dirt, love it! ;)
kate~
I think you people think to small, If I have a moat, I want a sea
monster in it, a Kraken at least,
I guess their are no Texans posting, they always think big..:)
I'm still in the midst of shifting dirt & laying flagstones, it's already
looking great. There's plenty of new area for planting as a result, where
a previously sloped area of lawn is now a raised flat area for
perennials. I moved a ton of dirt from the slope bottom that's becoming
the patio, to behind the stacking-stone wall, but can't afford to plant
that area just now. I did transplant a few things to there so it isn't all
empty, like a black-flowering hellebore that was almost invisible in its
previous location dark flower in dark spot, & it is now in the new raised
garden showing itself to spectacular effect.
I planted some rugosa roses in a new streetside garden, but that new
garden is also going to look pretty empty for the time being, & most
that's in it now had been sitting around in containers for quite a while
cuz there's no funds for new plants. Someone I last year helped
re-landscape an old garden (which he believed to be too crowded with
shrubs for his taste) hired me back this month to do some more labor, &
I'm working for pretty cheap but get additional payment in hundreds of
dollars worth of big old rhodies & other shrubs that I'm removing from his
garden to mine. It is horrible labor to get those shrubs out of the
ground & down a stone stairway that seems like a mile, but at least when
I'm done busting my back the shrubs are MINE. This morning I was digging a
big hole for the next shrub to be brought over, it'll go next to a biggish
serviceberry also recently installed. One of the smaller rhodies I brought
home from last year's landscaping for this guy, I've no idea what it is,
it is very old but only four feet tall, a small-leaf evergreen & I didn't
see it in flower last year because it bloomed so early. That one right now
has buds beginning to burst, & it so far looks creamy white. What
small-leaf evergreen rhody has creamy white flowers? I hope I can figure
it out.
I brought home a five-foot twinberry shrub I can't for the life of me
figure out where it should go so it may end up a container plant for a
while. I've a big lovely & presently empty pottery planter, because a
Portuguese evergreen cherry that had been growing in it for a couple years
got put in the new rugosa garden, so maybe the twinberry will go in that
pot for a year or however long.
Tons of bulbs are gussying up the place. As the crocus season winds down
the kaufmannias burst upward in amazingly dense drifts of waterlily-like
blooms, & every day another variety of miniature daffodil is opening up,
plus a dozen kinds of muscaris, scillas, & bellevalia getting flowerier
each day. Two species of fritillary are already blooming too. I thought
I'd "lost" the snow-white Muscari pallens, but they popped up in a
roadside location where I now realize they accidentally got lifted along
with some old daffodils; they're too tiny for the roadside garden, so when
they begin to die back some weeks from now I'll get them back into the
main yard, probably along a ledge of the new patio-side raised garden. I
think of the beginning of the year as having three parts: the crocus
season, then the daffodil/muscari season, closing with the botanical
tulips season -- with obvious overlaps. Today also I noticed that
virtually every one of our corydalises have at least their first few
blooms opened, including the Dutchman's Britches which is so damned cute
with those white undies hanging there.
It's also nearly time to lift a bunch of autumn crocuses like Crocus
speciosus, to move them before their grass vanishes & I can't find them.
I'm pondering digging up another autumn crocus, C. kotschyanus, & just
giving them a good cleaning in order to EAT them, because they didn't
bloom last year, but i may let them go one more year before deciding
whether or not they become dinner.
Early-blooming rhodies & azaleas are looking great. In full flower are
Crater's Edge, Sesame, Milestone, & PJM Elite, some others showing color
in their buds, & the star magnolia bursting into bloom too. I'm going to
hit "post" then go back outside right now & noodle around the plants some
more!
-paghat the ratgirl
--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/
I will look some up for you with pleasure, and try and find the little
round clump in the morning, Its dark now.
I had to laugh when you mentioned oceans and earth... that's very much
me, I love water in any form, rivers waterfalls, and of course the sea.
Oh and I live in England, and all the rain, is what makes the gardens
grow... :)
I saw a garter snake swimming in ditchwater, & wished I could make it live
near my tiny garden pond.
Hard landscaping is very expensive, fortunately most of our hard
landscaping is done, and very little more needs doing..
I don't have the room for many Rhododendrons though I have a couple of
miniatures, though that is really not true, Garden centres sell them as
miniatures, because they are so slow growing that they take years to get
to any size.
I like shade plants myself, but I made an effort when we first planted a
tree in the garden to find a tree that was very late leafing, it allowed
under planting to get well started before the ground underneath was
heavily shaded Its a Japanese, Tree of Heaven, and over thirty years old
now. And still growing.
Gardeners learn a lot of patience, because all the work you put in needs
years to come to fruition, you have to be able to see your garden ten
years ahead and know how big various shrubs and bushes are going to
grow, or you end up with some very mature plants that take over half the
garden. A mistake all gardeners make when they are just starting out.
I see so many things I want to put in my garden buts it already crammed
to the edges, and there is little room for more. My fingers get itchy
though every time I pass a garden centre in spring,
However I have my containers and hanging baskets so I do have a chance
to plant anew every year. I will start planting them up soon,
Spring is here. What more could a gardener ask for :)
Shez
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> Shez <sh...@oldcity.f2s.com> wrote in message
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> > In article <8NidnVu1K9z...@comcast.com>, gurdjieff 0f gormorrah
> > <iiiiii@iiiii.?> writes
> > >
> > >theoneflasehaddock <electric...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >news:aa0c605c.04031...@posting.google.com...
> > >> "Phoenix" <Do...@HungLo.com> wrote in message
> > >news:<sI_3c.89676$eL2.4...@twister.southeast.rr.com>...
> piranha..
> > >Just be sure to raise your draw-bridge immediately after leaving your
> > >garden.
> > >
> > >you're welcome [ in advance ]
> > >The green gardener,
> > >gurdjieff 0f gormorrah
> > >
> > >> -
> > >> theoneflasehaddock
> > >
> > >
> >
> > You don't think this is a tiny bit over the top... Mostly moats were
> > built to keep humans out not Squirrels, and the cost involved would be
> > such that stocking your whole garden with bulbs for squirrels to eat for
> > the next hundred years might be slightly cheaper...:)
> > not that I want to put you down or anything, your ideas are very
> > imaginative... if somewhat insane...:)
>
> insane? You want effective or you want to skimp on money , penny pincher?
> We are talking crocus here ! This is the best cash crop since Zappa's
> Montana dental floss ranch !!!
>
> I bet you have a potato in a jelly jar growing a vine in ya
> window, don't ya? Yeah, thought so. Leave the aricultural
> advice to us experts and you amatrues stick to raising sea
> monkeys and mildew.
>
If you give the squirrels other things to eat will they leave your bulbs
and vegetables alone? Of course, I have a cat, so that might be
enough...