purple loosestrife
Jean B.
proposing and am rather alarmed by what I am reading about purple
loosestrife (unless the kind she recommended, "Lady Sackville", is not
as invasive as other types). I might add that I am in Massachusetts,
and there does not seem to be a list of noxious weeds for the state.
I do, however, see what I now realize is purple loosestrife all over
the place, so it would seem to be a problem here. I certainly don't
want ot plant something that is going to take over the universe!
After I get your views on this, I may opine further about this
landscaping project!
Thanks,
Jean B.
Unknown
It has its beginnings in your state!!
http://omega.cc.umb.edu/~conne/jennjim/lythrum.html
Typical of the hords of landscape contractors and self appointed
"designers" around the country....here I say all it takes to be a
landscape designer/installer is a dented pickup and some mexican
helpers(actually they do ALL the work).
Don't plant it...
http://www.seagrant.umn.edu/exotics/purple.html
Garden varieties of loosestrife, which were once thought to be
sterile, have been proven to cross pollinate with wild purple
loosestrife to produce viable seed. Gardeners can help control the
spread of this plant and protect our environment from its harmful
impacts by not planting purple loosestrife or the following cultivars:
Atropurpureum
Brightness
Columbia Pink
Dropmore Purple
Firecandle
Flashfire
Floralie
Florarose
Gypsy Blood
Happy
Lady Sackville
Morden Gleam
Morden Pink
Morden Rose
Pink Spires
Purple Dwarf
Purple Spires
Robert
Rose Gem
Rose Gleam
Rose Queen
Roseum superbum
Rosy Glow
The Beacon
The Rocket
Tomentosum
http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/land/er/invasive/info/loose2.htm
As of 1987, state law bans the sale, offering for sale, distribution,
planting, or cultivation of purple loosestrife. This ban covers both
Lythrum salicaria and L. virgatum. There are no exceptions for
cultivars, hybrids, or so-called sterile varieties. Sale violations of
purple loosestrife should be reported to the Department of
Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection at Bureau of Plant
Industry, P.O. Box 8911, Madison, WI 53708-8911 or phone at
(608)-224-4571. Cultivation violations should be reported to county or
municipal law enforcement officials. Each violation is subject to a
$100 fine [sec. 66.955(2)(5)].
Illegal Lythrum plants have many horticultural names, some of which
are:
Rose Queen
The Rocket
Morden Pink or Rose
Morden's Gleam
Dropmore Purple
Columbia Pink
The Beacon
Fire Candle Atropurpureum
Happy
Roseum Superbum
Purple Spire
Mr. Robert's or Robert's
Lady Sackville
RamblinOn
"Jean B." wrote:
There are lots of plants sold at greenhouses which are invasive and are
already widespread problems. Loosestrife is a big problem in wetlands,
Michigan is one place I know of. I've looked at lists of invasive plants
that Florida has problems with, many of which began as "houseplants".
Kudzu is in our area, to my surprise. Lantana and some mimosa are
problems. Asparagus fern is a bloody pest in landscaping here, although I
can't swear it is on the invasive list. It grows lots of tubers and is
impossible to pull out, and has berries to boot. We had some in our
landscaping which wasn't real widespread, so I cut it to the ground and
used roundup whenever it began to sprout. Finally got rid of it. Just
about anything grows in Florida if you break off a branch and stick it in
the ground. Your state university should have info for you, or a county
extension service.
Sed5555
>proposing and am rather alarmed by what I am reading about purple
>loosestrife
See this link:
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopExt/4DMG/Weed/loose.htm
sed5555
Iris Cohen
kind she recommended, "Lady Sackville", is not as invasive as other types). I
might add that I am in Massachusetts, >>
There are several cultivars sold which are related to the wild purple
loosestrife. It is better to be on the safe side & not plant them. There are
plenty of other flowers to choose from.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"It is forbidden to live in a town which has no greenery." Jerusalem Talmud,
Kiddushin 4:12.
Jean B.
after starting my search on the stuff. I must say, because of this
and various other problems*, I am having serious doubts about this
landscape designer. I am reluctant to ax her, because this will be
the second year my landscape projects have not gotten done. I think I
will get the areas I want to plant stripped, and then proceed on my
own.
*Other problems: I keep telling her I am extremely antipesticide and
herbicide, and she keeps forgetting that (and recommends things that
are known to be susceptible to pests, fungus, etc.); I keep telling
her I want to plant things that will be happy where they are going and
that will not have to be pruned back to be the right height, and she
forgets that (and also is recommending some things that like moisture
and others that like dry soil be planted together); there is a given
amount of space, and she recommends things that are much too big; I
don't want to restrict visibility either as I pull out of the driveway
or as people round our corner, and she forgets that; we have drainage
problems that cannot be exascerbated, and she forgets that (and keeps
trying to get me to put in berms--which I DO like, but which I cannot
do).... Ack, ack, and more ack!
I did think that she at least had some aesthetic sense, but I now have
doubts about that too.
In the meantime, I went to a bookstore this afternoon and saw a nice
book on perennial combinations that I have now ordered from the
library. Looks like a nice starting point. I like to research the
stuff thoroughly though!
Anyway, thanks again for your comments.
Jean B.
Bill Morgan
iris...@aol.com (Iris Cohen) wrote:
> << rather alarmed by what I am reading about purple loosestrife (unless the
> kind she recommended, "Lady Sackville", is not as invasive as other types). I
> might add that I am in Massachusetts, >>
>
> There are several cultivars sold which are related to the wild purple
> loosestrife. It is better to be on the safe side & not plant them. There are
> plenty of other flowers to choose from.
A nice spikey purple-flowered alternatiave is Liatris. Not as tall as
loosestrife, but a bit prettier.
Regards,
Bill
"Those who do not learn the lessons of science fiction are condemned to
live them."--William T. Morgan
KrisHur
alot of $$$ to provide you w/a plan, the least she could do is remember what
you want. Keep searching you'll find someone who can do the job, or what the
hell do it yourself!
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Jean B.
KrisHur wrote:
>
> She forgets??!!!!
Mmmmm. The first thing I noticed as we walked around the yard was
that she was not taking any notes. I thought that was odd, and then
told myself that she must have a VERY good memory. Unfortunately this
is not the case.
> Moist and dry together??!!!
Yes, isn't that odd to say the least? I don't see how they can
coexist happily!
Dump her, now. They get paid
> alot of $$$ to provide you w/a plan, the least she could do is remember what
> you want.
I think so too. Luckily (I think) we chose a plan that will allow us
to fire her at any time. I may not do the deed til after the areas
get dug in though.
> Keep searching you'll find someone who can do the job, or what the
> hell do it yourself!
I think it might be the latter. My only doubts were how to achieve
the serendipitous, natural look, and I will have to be careful about
that. I do like researching plants, driving around and getting ideas,
and prowling in the nurseries. And I think the one book I saw last
night had better ideas than she has come up with.
Thanks again,
Jean B.
BeeCrofter
Several types of Galerucella beetles are being used sucessfully to control it
on lands not permanently flooded.
A web search using Galerucella will turn up a good read on these beetles and
many other biological controls for pest weeds.
Kevin or Marie Russell
what's next?
~Marie
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>what's next?
>
>~Marie
Kevin!
Jean B.
That's good news and a step in the right direction. Still, I don't
think it would be conscionable for me to plant something that might
help in its goal to take over the universe. I think I will go with
something less aggressive.
I wonder how long it will take those beetles to get rampant purple
loosestrife under control?
Jean B.
BeeCrofter
other plants but they only breed on loosestrife.
No loosestrife means no new generations.
Bill Morgan
> I wonder how long it will take those beetles to get rampant purple
> loosestrife under control?
That depends on what you mean by "under control". You're not likely to see
purple loosestrife disappear. Smaller populations may become extinct, at
least on a temporary basis. But it just isn't likely that it is going to go
extinct on a wider basis. More likely, there will be a general reduction of
the loosestrife followed by a reduction of the beetle numbers. That will be
followed by a rebound of loosestrife, and a consequent rebound of beetles,
followed by a reduction of the loosestrife...
Eventually, both will survive, but will probably never get back to the
"glory days" of their peak abundance.
That's just my guess, of course.
Pam
"Jean B." wrote:
There is more than one plant which is commonly known as loosestrife.
Lythrum virgatum or L. salicaria, as well as some of their domesticated
cousins, can be a real problem in colonizing pasturelands and natural
areas and should certainly be avoided. Lysimachia is also often referred
to as loosestrife and while some varieties have an ability to spread
rapidly, IME, it is not aggressively invasive and, at least in my area,
has shown no propensity for the weedy characteristics of lythrum. What
exactly was the name of the plant she recommended?
Pam - gardengal
Jean B.
It is Lythrum salicaria "Lady Sackville". (!)
Jean B.
Dave Gower
"Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message news:3B520753...@rcn.com...
> > I wonder how long it will take those beetles to get rampant purple
> loosestrife under control?
Here in Eastern Ontario they're already noticeably reduced. The area I live
in was one of the first to get the beetle.
Jim Voege
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cdunk
Carol in Barrie
C.
> There is more than one plant which is commonly known as loosestrife.
> Lythrum virgatum or L. salicaria, as well as some of their domesticated
> cousins, can be a real problem in colonizing pasturelands and natural
> areas and should certainly be avoided. Lysimachia is also often referred
> to as loosestrife and while some varieties have an ability to spread
> rapidly, IME, it is not aggressively invasive and, at least in my area,
> has shown no propensity for the weedy characteristics of lythrum. What
My question exactly. I have a plant in my garden which my garden
book calls "loosestrife". However, it blooms *yellow*, not purple.
Nice yellow clusters, not as much a spike as the purple loosestrife.
Is that an invasive weed, too? (It spreads, but not rapidly, in my
garden.)
Should I rip it out, or enjoy it?
C.
Bill Morgan
Do you know the genus?
Bill Morgan
> And so what do we do when the beetle changes its food preferences?
>
It won't have too: loosestrife isn't about to go away...
E. McCullough
really lysimachia punctata. It is a model of restraint in comparison with
the purple loosestrife which is blooming in every ditch.
Liz
--
E. McCullough - ac...@freenet.carleton.ca
Pam
"C." wrote:
That is a form of lysimachia - they nearly always have yellow or white flowers
as opposed to purple. Not a noxious weed, but somewhat inclined to
invasiveness. It spreads by runners or underground roots, rather than by
self-seeding. Can be a wonderful garden addition. Enjoy it.
Pam - gardengal
Dave Gower
"Bill Morgan" <wtmo...@pilot.msu.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <3B5619CD...@home.com>, cdunk <cd...@home.com> wrote:
>
> > And so what do we do when the beetle changes its food preferences?
> >
>
> It won't have too: loosestrife isn't about to go away...
As has been said earlier in this thread, food preferences are not supposed
to be a problem. It can eat other things, but needs loosestrife to breed. At
least that's the theory. We'll see.
And if beetles can change diet so can birds, predatory insects etc. Beetles
make a good snack.
Bill Morgan
ry. We'll see.
>
> And if beetles can change diet so can birds, predatory insects etc. Beetles
> make a good snack.
Depends on the species and stage. The larvae, pupae and callow adults of
Ips beetles taste like pinon nuts, but are considerably jucier. If you
prefer cooked fare, mealworm larvae can be sauteed in butter and a little
salt. But then you mostly taste the butter and salt.
Jim Voege
You mean like the way the dingoes quickly added rabbits to their diet in
Australia? ;-)