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Bill who putters

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Jul 3, 2009, 9:29:35 AM7/3/09
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We just had or should say are having a weird wet spring. Dew point
mid 60's and rain almost every day for about the 40. Never saw moss
grow so well. My stone driveway has moss. Moles /voles are working on
my hostas big time too.

Not of biblical proportions but never such weather here in memory.

Bill 68 F. at 9:30 AM Dew point 61 F.

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

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David E. Ross

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Jul 3, 2009, 12:01:25 PM7/3/09
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On 7/3/2009 6:29 AM, Bill who putters wrote:
> We just had or should say are having a weird wet spring. Dew point
> mid 60's and rain almost every day for about the 40. Never saw moss
> grow so well. My stone driveway has moss. Moles /voles are working on
> my hostas big time too.
>
> Not of biblical proportions but never such weather here in memory.
>
> Bill 68 F. at 9:30 AM Dew point 61 F.
> Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

Here, we had an unusual June rainfall at the beginning of the month. It
was only 0.1 inch, but it was the first time it rained in June in over
five years.

That 0.1 inch was not enough to end the drought. Since the beginning of
last October (the start of our "rain year"), we've had 9.25 inches.
With our usual weather patterns, we should not expect any measurable
rain until after the beginning of this coming October. Water agencies
are beginning to dictate how long sprinkler systems can run, at what
times, and even in some cases on what days. (Some of these rules are
quite silly and a few even encourage wasting water.)

Through yesterday, we've had seven consecutive days with temperatures
over 85F, four of those days reaching or exceeding 90F. In those same
seven days, the relative humidity has dropped below 30%, five of those
days going below 20%.

For a more extensive discussion of my climate, see the section "The
Locale" on my <http://www.rossde.com/garden>.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening diary at <http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary>

Frank

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Jul 3, 2009, 12:11:33 PM7/3/09
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Very cool 3rd of July. Have not turned on AC yet this year.
Runner passed me in park this am and said welcome to July.
My 2 word answer was, "global warming."
I know I made his day, he's secretary of the states Green party ;)

jeff

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Jul 3, 2009, 2:22:00 PM7/3/09
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Bill who putters wrote:
> We just had or should say are having a weird wet spring. Dew point
> mid 60's and rain almost every day for about the 40. Never saw moss
> grow so well.

My moss died.


My stone driveway has moss. Moles /voles are working on
> my hostas big time too.
>
> Not of biblical proportions but never such weather here in memory.
>
> Bill 68 F. at 9:30 AM Dew point 61 F.
>


After a wet spring its dried out. A little cooler today but largely
hot and dry:

http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KGAATLAN39&day=3&year=2009&month=6&graphspan=month

Jeff

Phisherman

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Jul 3, 2009, 4:43:22 PM7/3/09
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On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:29:35 -0400, Bill who putters
<b2fore...@snip.net> wrote:

>
> We just had or should say are having a weird wet spring. Dew point
>mid 60's and rain almost every day for about the 40. Never saw moss
>grow so well. My stone driveway has moss. Moles /voles are working on
>my hostas big time too.
>
> Not of biblical proportions but never such weather here in memory.
>
> Bill 68 F. at 9:30 AM Dew point 61 F.


Very greatful for the cooler Canadian air. Typically I do not like
the heat of July/August, and most plants agree. It is currently 80
degrees, low humidy, partly sunny in east Tennessee.

Zootal

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Jul 3, 2009, 5:20:50 PM7/3/09
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"Phisherman" <nob...@noone.com> wrote in message
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88 degrees, low humidity, no clounds. mid Willamette Valley, Oregon, about
30 miles south of Salem. Cucumbers and squash are exploding out of the
ground. Tomatoes going nutso. Eggplants doing good. Peppers not so wure.
Cabbages look like they are going to bolt. Onions huge, almost ready to
harvest. Potatoes growing like crazy. Corn hates me. Sunflowers everywhere -
whose bright idea was it to plant sunflowers?


brooklyn1

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Jul 3, 2009, 5:41:52 PM7/3/09
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Bill who putters wrote:
> We just had or should say are having a weird wet spring. Dew point mid
> 60's and rain almost every day for about the 40. Never saw moss grow so
> well.
>
I think it has rained heavily here in the Catskills every day since spring
started, the ground is so saturated that I have to keep my barn door open to
keep mold at bay. My vegetable garden has practically drowned. I've been
struggling to keep my lawns mowed between deluges... some areas are much too
wet to attempt, my tractors would bog down to their axles. I managed to mow
most all of foot tall lawn earlier this week during a lull in the torrents,
barely finished as big drops were falling. Today I awoke to a strange
sight, SUN! But an hour ago the sky began to darken and it sure looks like
I should build that ark.

In less than ten minutes from sun to this:
http://i39.tinypic.com/2s6rabk.jpg

But all the rain has been good to my meadow:
http://i44.tinypic.com/2ng8uc5.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/n4b9g9.jpg

Billy

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Jul 3, 2009, 7:01:53 PM7/3/09
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In article <h2li8a$80b$1...@news.albasani.net>, jeff <jeff_...@att.net>
wrote:

I suspect that Emilie's moss died too. She is in northern California,
where the temp went to 108F, according to the local fish wrap, last
Saturday. Those are southern California desert temps.
--

- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn

mleblanca

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Jul 3, 2009, 10:22:17 PM7/3/09
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On Jul 3, 4:01 pm, Billy <wildbilly@without_a.net> wrote:
> In article <h2li8a$80...@news.albasani.net>, jeff <jeff_th...@att.net>

> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Bill who putters wrote:
> > > We just had or should say are having a weird wet spring. Dew point
> > > mid 60's and rain almost every day for about the 40. Never saw moss
> > > grow so well.
>
> > My moss died.
>
> > My stone driveway has moss. Moles /voles are working on
> > > my hostas big time too.
>
> > > Not of biblical proportions but never such weather here in memory.
>
> > > Bill 68 F. at 9:30 AM Dew point 61 F.
>
> > After a wet spring its dried out. A little cooler today but largely
> > hot and dry:
>
> >http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KGAA...

> > y=3&year=2009&month=6&graphspan=month
>
> > Jeff
>
> I suspect that Emilie's moss died too. She is in northern California,
> where the temp went to 108F, according to the local fish wrap, last
> Saturday. Those are southern California desert temps.
> --
>
> - Billy
>
> There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
> find out for themselves.
> Will Rogers
>
> http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htmhttp://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn

Hi there Billy!
Yes It has been interesting this summer. The first 3 weeks of June
were rather odd:
Cloudy/partly cloudy days, with temps in the 80's with HUGE
thunderheads above the
mountains every afternoon. A tremendous thunder/lightning
storm on the night of the 4th. We were camping up in the Feather River
Canyon in our
tent! People here in the valley all said how Loud and Severe the
Lightning was! Well
they should have experienced it at the bottom of a narrow 100' deep
canyon! It was
spectacular. (Also the tent leaked a bit) On June 22 the clouds
disappeared and it
has been "normally" clear since.

July has been rather usual: nor rain and temps in the 90-100F +
range. It was not
that hot (108) here Billy as we are generally about 5 degrees cooler
that city temps.
Highest has been 103. Nights are comfortable in the 60s. Last year of
course we had
"The Fires" and temps were much hotter: July 7 '08 109deg.

The garden is doing well with the exception of tomatoes not ripening.
There are about
20-30 good sized fruits on the plants, but they are stubbornly staying
green. Some
Early Girl s have been ripening, but I didn't plant EG this
year..................
Peppers are doing well, son's corn is loaded with ears, apricots, figs
are ripe, and
zucchini ( one got out of control and weighs 10 pounds!)

Flowers are in abundance: roses, daylilies, echinacea, BE Susans,
Liatris, Penstemon,
Phlox, Abutilon, Agastache.......etc. Lilies came and went quickly.
Oh and the moss,
it will be fine, it is used to the dry and hot summers. It just goes
dormant and takes a
rest for 4-or 5 months.

Enough.
Emilie
NorCal

Dioclese

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Jul 4, 2009, 9:34:54 AM7/4/09
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"Bill who putters" <b2fore...@snip.net> wrote in message
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Just substantiates the exception in the global scheme of things. Of course
that portion of the world generally thinks all is like their area, thus
global. At least based on some the replies I"ve read.

Been seeing 100s for many weeks now. Little rain. The exceptional drought
continues in central TX. Your water comes from my coastal area, the Gulf of
Mexico.
--
Dave


Ernie Willson

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Jul 4, 2009, 10:41:57 AM7/4/09
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Bill who putters wrote:
> We just had or should say are having a weird wet spring. Dew point
> mid 60's and rain almost every day for about the 40. Never saw moss
> grow so well. My stone driveway has moss. Moles /voles are working on
> my hostas big time too.
>
> Not of biblical proportions but never such weather here in memory.
>
> Bill 68 F. at 9:30 AM Dew point 61 F.
>

Bill,

It is a strange year here in central NJ; cool and wet.

On the bad side--I notice slugs which I have never seen in the ten years
I have lived here. Moss is growing on my back porch.

The good news is that the deer seem to be less aggressive this year
(presumably there is a better food supply in the woods), also the
onslaught of Japanese Beetles seems to be minimal, or at least delayed.
In addition most of my spring flowers are still blooming.

EJ in NJ (near Princeton)

jeff

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Jul 7, 2009, 8:26:15 PM7/7/09
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Billy wrote:
> In article <h2li8a$80b$1...@news.albasani.net>, jeff <jeff_...@att.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Bill who putters wrote:
>>> We just had or should say are having a weird wet spring. Dew point
>>> mid 60's and rain almost every day for about the 40. Never saw moss
>>> grow so well.
>> My moss died.
>>
>>
>> My stone driveway has moss. Moles /voles are working on
>>> my hostas big time too.
>>>
>>> Not of biblical proportions but never such weather here in memory.
>>>
>>> Bill 68 F. at 9:30 AM Dew point 61 F.
>>>
>>
>> After a wet spring its dried out. A little cooler today but largely
>> hot and dry:
>>
>> http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KGAATLAN39&da
>> y=3&year=2009&month=6&graphspan=month
>>
>> Jeff
>
> I suspect that Emilie's moss died too. She is in northern California,
> where the temp went to 108F, according to the local fish wrap, last
> Saturday. Those are southern California desert temps.

Seems to be the year for unusual weather patterns. Finally getting
some rain and cooler temps, which is a good thing as I've been injured
and unable to tend the garden.

Jeff

Billy

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Jul 8, 2009, 12:56:46 AM7/8/09
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In article <h30p39$6hq$1...@news.albasani.net>, jeff <jeff_...@att.net>
wrote:

Sorry to hear that. Hope you mend quickly.
Here, we have yet to break above 55F at night. Last night was 49F, and
the same is on tap for tonight. Happily, the tomatoes are setting fruit,
and I'm getting ready for our second harvest of squash for tomorrow
night's schnitzel. Today was in the mid-70s and the rest of the week is
supposed to be in the low to mid 80s, with the lows around 50F. Very
comfortable weather for people, but not, I fear, for the garden.

jeff

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Jul 9, 2009, 1:25:13 AM7/9/09
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Thanks.

Jeff

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