Designer's Landscape
ZDBop
drivel on at 5:30. I hate this show!
First, I hate landscaping. It ain't gardening! It's typical that you never
see the homeowners on the show. That's because when he leaves, they bring in a
truckful of minorities to maintain it. Chances are, after they've seen it once
when they drive up, they never even notice the thousands of dollars they spent
on their grounds. Landscaping belongs in the boring suburbs.
As much as I gripe about the Englishman on The Victory Garden, at least once a
half-hour I say, "Wow." I can't think of a single time I've ever done that
with Designer's Landscape. Anyone who does what he suggests, need not ever
watch the damn program ever again.
This guys designs are boring. And he works in a five mile radius in a part of
the country that doesn't work for the other 95%. This program bites! Bring
back something of interest during the 5 o'clock "gardening hour."
Rant mode off.
Wayne
**Anything worth doing would have been done already.**
Zhanataya
>Thanks, again, HGTV. You took off Victory Garden at five everyday and put this
>drivel on at 5:30. I hate this show!
It's the same design and plants over and over and over and
over and over.
Zhan
ZDBop
can catch the last half hour of politics on CNN now.
Are there any old tapes of VG with Jim Crockett? Anything is better than this
boring landscape stuff.
Btw, there was an episode of VG on yesterday that blew me away. A lady in
Dallas with a japanese garden that was amazing.
Hey, I've even learned to appreciate Grow It!, and I didn't think that could
possibly happen. Must be a harbinger of a long winter. Wooly worms and Grow
It! I will endeavor to persevere.
Rev Chuck
>
> > First, I hate landscaping. It ain't gardening! It's typical that you
> never
> > see the homeowners on the show. That's because when he leaves, they bring
> in a
> > truckful of minorities to maintain it. Chances are, after they've seen it
> once
> > when they drive up, they never even notice the thousands of dollars they
> spent
> > on their grounds. Landscaping belongs in the boring suburbs
>
> minorities. It seems impossible to notice dollars once they are spent for,
> by definition, they are not there anymore.
>
> Are all suburbs boring?
Mine was designed by Frederick Law Olmstead.
>
> Mike the Tree Doctor
> www.treedoctors.com
Ann
>Mine was designed by Frederick Law Olmstead.
Well, if you're gonna live in a suburb, I suppose you could do worse!
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Ann, Gardening in Zone 6a
Just south of Boston, MA
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David Wlos
cookie-cutter subdivisions inhabited by cookie-cutter people.
Unimaginative, boring and a waste of air(?) time.
RHumphr870
>"How about "Garden Architecture?" It's like the Canadian version of "Surprise
Gardener" only they drop off some expensive lawn furniture and push it around
the yard until they get it right."<
Yeah, what the hell is the deal there? Sometimes, the "lawn" furniture looks
more like household (interior) furniture.
And that William Anderson guy. He needs a good solid kick in the balls just
for suggesting that a sofa w/ throw pillows is a viable gardening technique.
Rob
Who has to make do with a bean-bag chair on the lawn
Mike the Tree Doctor
never
> see the homeowners on the show. That's because when he leaves, they bring
in a
> truckful of minorities to maintain it. Chances are, after they've seen it
once
> when they drive up, they never even notice the thousands of dollars they
spent
> on their grounds. Landscaping belongs in the boring suburbs
Your statement implies that the homeowners are neither female nor
minorities. It seems impossible to notice dollars once they are spent for,
by definition, they are not there anymore.
Are all suburbs boring?
Mike the Tree Doctor
www.treedoctors.com
madgardener
saturday afternoon is new episodes of Winter Gardening, Indoor Gardener,
Gardener's Journal with Cathy Reinwold, and Gardener's Diary with Erica
Glasner. It also seems they have been running some good ones on Sunday
afternoons, but i tend to space these until they are past, since I
listen to Celtic music for two hours on Sunday. madgardener, still
having fun with son's and roomates being here, just a little tired.
dr-...@execpc.com
is still out in the country but is now surrounded by the burbs... where
they have now passed laws that prohibit any fence higher than 3 feet and
have to be 50% open.. so nobody can grow anything the rabbits or deer are
going to eat. they do "industrial" plantings, the same plants the rabbits
and deer wont eat. Ingrid
"Mike the Tree Doctor" <mla...@bestweb.net> wrote:
>Are all suburbs boring?
>
>Mike the Tree Doctor
>www.treedoctors.com
>
>
>
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RHumphr870
>"...Everyone knows that the sofa belongs on the front porch next to the old
Maytag wringer style washing machine. :-)"<
Bill,
ROFL!! Didn't think that anybody else besides me and my foreman knew the rule
about appliances on the front porch.
Rob
Who anticipates a trip to the National Arboretum this weekend
Cotton66
What's the big deal about everyone hating the suburbs? Sure, it usually
gets a cheap laugh, but I dig the suburb I live in. I'm an American
brought up on TV culture and KISS. Before my wife and I bought our
house over the summer my mantra was "I want development life!". Now I
got it. It's called Mountainview Estates! American kitch, baby! I
just wish it was 1966 and I'd be throwing a little swaray, making fondue
and easing on a little Sergio Mendes for the bossa nova set.
TRENT
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Gandy Dancer
Last time we talked, you were just getting into the gardening thing! You'd
just bought a house (Zone 6, Harrisburg PA) in the summer and were ready to
grow stuff! (Flowers mostly, IIRC.) You were wondering what were some good
late season things to get growing and what you could get ready then that
would bloom once spring rolls around next year! You were wanting to do some
things in planters and were going to start tilling up the yard to put in
flower beds and paths and all that neat stuff. I think you mentioned
starting two compost bins and studying up on soil and how to make it more
plantable.
So how'd you make out with all that fun stuff? Give us an update, dude!
Gandy
Who's really impressed with the progress TRENT's made with his web site -
too cool!
Cotton66 wrote with his typical enthusiasm...
Cotton66
>
> TRENT! Where you been, man?!
>
> Last time we talked, you were just getting into the gardening thing! You'd
> just bought a house (Zone 6, Harrisburg PA) in the summer and were ready to
> grow stuff! (Flowers mostly, IIRC.) You were wondering what were some good
> late season things to get growing and what you could get ready then that
> would bloom once spring rolls around next year! You were wanting to do some
> things in planters and were going to start tilling up the yard to put in
> flower beds and paths and all that neat stuff. I think you mentioned
> starting two compost bins and studying up on soil and how to make it more
> plantable.
>
> So how'd you make out with all that fun stuff? Give us an update, dude!
>
> Gandy
> Who's really impressed with the progress TRENT's made with his web site -
> too cool!
I've been a-learnin and a-yearnin. When I initially posted my seminal
offering to the group I only had a few things in the ground. Well,
mums seem to hate me. I know this by the death of many of them. The
hibiscus we planted did pretty good. Most of the things didn't bloom
until last month or so. I figure we planted a bit late in the season
for any REAL showing. I didn't save many of the tags so I'm not sure
what most of my plants even are anymore. I actually dug up a nice little
designed garden bed on the side of the house in which I planted some
bulbs. As I am learning I keep feeling the need to dig up what I've
planted and start over. Such is the case with the bulbs. The drainage
isn't so good and I really have to add a LOT more peat moss to loosen up
my heavy clay soil. Plus, it doesn't get much sunlight on that side of
the house, mostly evening light. I've been working the compost thing
too. It's taking awhile. I'm currently just working the soil and
prepping it for next spring.
Tonight I finally made it to my local nursery, Country Market
Nursery. Most of the stuff was 50% or more off!!! I've been checking
out lots of gardening magazines over the last few months trying to get
ideas on what I'd like to plant. Now, I got the stuff in front of me
with serious discounts. You know, the stuff you can't buy at Wal-Mart
or Lowes!!! My eyes were glazing over. It was beautiful. Most of it
was brown or cut down to the root, but I could at least look at the
little picture tags and imagine. I ended up getting two Campanula "Blue
chips" and two Hibiscus, the kind that have the huge white dinner plate
sized blooms. They're gonna go in the front of the house. I was hoping
to see some Nikko Blue Hydrangeas, but they only had white. I got a
blue theme thing I'm working on.
I can't believe you remembered my post with such clarity!!!! Heck, I
forget what I did yesterday.
TRENT
hoping the wife won't mind another trip to the nursery......
>
>
Gandy Dancer
I find there's a lot of trial and error, with soil conditions, water,
fertilizer, light...it's impossible to get it all right the first time.
Bear in mind if you have specific questions, you can get a lot of help from
this group - lots of expertise here.
BTW, I've got a lousy memory too, but I recalled your inimitable style and
did a lookup at Deja. ;-)
Gandy
Cotton66 wrote in message <382D03...@paonline.com>...
ZDBop
Trent, I wish it were only about the cheap laughs on TV. But behind the white
picket fence and look-alike houses, are some lurking evils. The suburbs might
have begun as your idealized middle-class America, but they became symbols of
urban flight--fear. The next logical step was gated communities, if you have
the money. Once ensconced behind your door with the personalized ornament, one
feels that he's safe, no longer threatened by what he sees on the news every
night.
Unfortunately, there are new problems that came and they are damned hard to
see. Trying to keep oneself in a homogenized world is impossible, and if it
were, the decay would come from within.
What happened at Columbine and the other school shootings are symptoms of
suburban diseases. Has anyone noticed none have happened in the horrible
cities from which they fled?
People wanted Potter's Falls. What they got was Stepford. Scratch the
protective surface of far too many suburbanites and the tensions come pouring
out. The race for material things have left many empty, and wondering, "Now
that I've not found happiness, where do I go now?"
I grew up in the first suburbs of Kansas City, Memphis, and Dallas, in the
Sixties. Looking back, it wasn't great. It wasn't even close to right. It's
diversity that makes a species stronger.
The jokes about the suburbs are like humor in the wake of tragedy. We laugh,
because to look too closely is frightening.
Sorry for the long post, but you asked. :) I hope you enjoy where you live. I
truly do.
Ann
>What's the big deal about everyone hating the suburbs?
Why says everyone hates the suburbs? I do, and am beginning to think
the semi-rural area I live in is getting too crowded, but everyone
lives where they want to...However, a suburb designed by Frederick Law
Olmstead would definitely not look like a bunch of cookie cutter
houses in little blocks of grass.
Tracey
We now live in a suburb for the first time. Up till now, we've
lived in military housing and if you wanna see 'cookie cutter
houses in little blocks of grass' (and all trimmed to the required
2 inches in height <grin>), go to a military housing area and
look at them! The suburb we live in though is an 'old' one. Lots
of big, old trees, the houses, while all built from the same few
basic house plans, are different enough that you have to really
*look* to figure out if a certain house is like yours. While I
never really *wanted* to live in a suburb, this one is okay...
for now.
--
Tracey
"You're only young once, but you can
be immature forever."
--Solomon Short--
dr-...@execpc.com
People are more interested in preserving their "investment" than in
diversity. I cant really put in words the difference we have felt moving
from the burbs and into the city. This is a neighborhood, we walk around
it, we feel it. And these people are proud that they are the second or
third generation living in the same house, the same community.
We were thinking of this as a stop on the way to finding land further out
where we want to build a dome home. I dont know if we will. My husband
was from a small town and loves living here. It is more like a small town.
Ingrid
zd...@aol.com (ZDBop) wrote:
>Trent, I wish it were only about the cheap laughs on TV. But behind the white
>picket fence and look-alike houses, are some lurking evils.
symbols of urban flight--fear.
homogenized world
The race for material things
ZDBop
pictured exactly what I was saying about suburbs.
If you haven't seen American Beauty, you're missing an incredible movie.
Can't say I've ever seen one like it.
Incredible.
Toni
ZDBop <zd...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> If you haven't seen American Beauty, you're missing an incredible movie.
> Can't say I've ever seen one like it.
So did you resist the urge to revisit the "stoned" age?
This film gave us an incredible yearning for the old doobie.
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