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Erin & Steve

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Dec 2, 2002, 10:12:57 AM12/2/02
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I planted passion flower (passiflora incarnata) by seed this spring and have
a healthy specimen in a pot that has reached nearly a foot tall. Last week,
at the base of this plant (only 3/4" away from the stem), I have a new
sprout?!?
It's unlikely that it is from another seed, but is this the only way I would
be getting another sprout? Or does it send off shoots from the roots? Should
I clip it or let it grow?

TIA
Erin

ecologicals

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Dec 2, 2002, 7:17:30 PM12/2/02
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"Erin & Steve" <sao...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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http://www.floridata.com/ref/p/passiflo.cfm

Maypop! Presume that the pot is indoors? My suggestion is a light regular
watering, give it enough light to let it hang in without dying off and in a
few weeks, increase both light and temp. This should kick in more new shoot
growth and give you a decent start. Too much light and ambient temp. now
will cause spindly shoots that are unlikely to be robust by spring, at least
if this sp. is similar in habit to the blue passiflora I grow. Then again, I
live in an 8b zone so the vine is left out through the winter and gets going
with a boost of N. (shovel of 3 year old sheep poop) in April.

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John H. Immink
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Erin & Steve

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Dec 3, 2002, 6:02:05 AM12/3/02
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Yes, the pot is indoors (z.6).
So, I presume from your post that this shoot is a good sign? I was worried
about the shoot interfering with the health of the main stem.

Erin


ecologicals

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Dec 3, 2002, 3:30:28 PM12/3/02
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It's not a bad thing as such, it's simply unlikely to do much until
conditions improve.
It tells you that the bugger is alive, right?
:)

Indoors can be tricky, you may want to cut down on watering, keep temps and
light reduced if possible, force the plant into a holding pattern. Or go
nuts and provide a lot of light, heat and water/Nitrogen - and watch the
plant take off.

John


paghat

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Dec 3, 2002, 3:26:39 PM12/3/02
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In article <Ev8H9.98619$ea.16...@news2.calgary.shaw.ca>, "ecologicals"
<ecologica...@shaw.ca> wrote:


Passiflora wants very little water & will not thrive if watered too
regularly; though I suppose it's likely seedlings need to be kept from
drying out entirely (not having grown one from seed I'm not sure).
Passiflora wants extremely poor soil, however, & will not do as well in
rich soil that is ever fertilized. To induce better root growth (& someday
fruit & flower production) instead of excessive premature vine growth, the
answer probably isn't to lower temperature & deprive it of light, but make
sure the soil is not too rich for it. Rich soil will induce a lot of vine
growth but the vines will never be flowery & fruitful; it needs to start
out slowly as it quite naturally does in poor soil, setting out quite a
root system. It likes warmth, & wants lots & lots of sunlight. It wants to
be an evergreen & if harsh winters are not imposed on it, it will be
growing in every season.
http://www.angelfire.com/grrl/paghat/passiflora.html#top

-paghat

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Erin & Steve

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Dec 3, 2002, 5:07:43 PM12/3/02
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Thanks for all the info!
I already fertilized it once, but will hold off now. It's getting plenty of
sun, and I can't wait to plant it outside in the spring!
Can they really get over 15' tall? Not sure where I can put it...


Pam

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Dec 3, 2002, 9:11:07 PM12/3/02
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Erin & Steve wrote:

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> Can they really get over 15' tall? Not sure where I can put it...

Depending on your climate, easily and equally as wide.

pam - gardengal

Erin & Steve

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Dec 4, 2002, 9:46:32 AM12/4/02
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based on how quickly it is growing now, I'm going to need a trellis built
inside my house!
How many shoots per season does it usually send off?
Should I expect any more before spring?

Erin & Steve

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Dec 4, 2002, 9:58:06 AM12/4/02
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which part of the country are you in? I'm in z.6.

My original post really questioned whether or not I should be encouraging
this new growth or not- I was worried about it interfering with the main
stem. I don't want to fertilize if it's going to keep the vines growing at
the expense of it setting buds, but will fertilize if the new growth
(especially at the young age of the plant) is a good thing.


Pam

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Dec 4, 2002, 10:14:39 AM12/4/02
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Erin & Steve wrote:

Never tried to grow one indoors, so I have no first hand knowledge of how it
will respond, but IME, plants grown indoors (or under glass) seldom grow with
the same vigor and to the same size as a similar plant in the landscape. The
size I was referring to pertains to an established Passiflora caerulea, one
of the few winter hardy species for my area (zone 8, PNW). Pretty much
evergreen here with an extraordinarily long bloom time - it's December and
the sucker is still blooming, but it has been very mild here so far this
season.

pam - gardengal

Pam

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Dec 4, 2002, 10:14:40 AM12/4/02
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Erin & Steve wrote:

I would hesitate to encourage much new growth at this time of year, even
inside, also hold off on the fertilizing. Wait until spring before applying
anything more. Do you intend to keep the plant indoors? Your chances of the
plant setting flower buds indoors is, I should think, slim - just not high
enough light levels.

FWIW, most vining plants are encouraged to develop additional shoots from the
base - this tends to provide a stronger plant with a well-developed root
system and lots of side branching/vining. The exception is wisteria, which one
typically keeps to a single major stem at the base.

pam - gardengal

Marion Margoshes

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Dec 4, 2002, 10:30:20 PM12/4/02
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My two passion flower baskets, brought in from outside(zone6) don't seem
to need encouragement. They are vineing all over my windows. I will
look for buds.

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