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Martin Riddle

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Nov 12, 2009, 11:55:02 PM11/12/09
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"Charlie" wrote in message
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> Came across this, and other links on the page, and found them very
> well produced. Old news really, more detailed and more info, for
> video production. Link to dangers of aspartame use and other goodies.
>
> http://personalgrowthcourses.net/video/gmo_food_genetically_modified
>
> Thought you and Billy and a few others might find these educational
> and.....other things.
>
> For those who don't, ya' might want to start researching and thinking
> about seedsaving.
>
> Charlie

Very nice, Always wondered why Monsantos stock price was stuck at 51.50
on the old Excite site.

Cheers


David Hare-Scott

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Nov 13, 2009, 12:47:10 AM11/13/09
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Charlie wrote:
> Came across this, and other links on the page, and found them very
> well produced. Old news really, more detailed and more info, for
> video production. Link to dangers of aspartame use and other goodies.
>
> http://personalgrowthcourses.net/video/gmo_food_genetically_modified
>
> Thought you and Billy and a few others might find these educational
> and.....other things.
>
> For those who don't, ya' might want to start researching and thinking
> about seedsaving.
>
> Charlie

Look at the other articles:


Cold fusion
UFOs
Kennedy Assassinations
Mind Control
Aspatarme risks
The Evils of inoculation
..and on and on....


The site is dedicated to Personal Growth Courses Oh wow. That is just
boggling. But wait there's more. How about "The Hidden Knowledge Course".
Where is my robe and my athame? Where is my power-charged crystal, my
rabbit's foot, my car that runs on water...... Oh my goodness I must get
some laying on of hands before I faint.

"Conspiracy Theories Old and New" would be better. "Internet Hoaxes We Know
and Love" would be better still.

I probably won't be able to post much more as "they" will be on to me. They
can trace you through the ether you know. If in the next few days the
person posting under my name is all sweetness and light and agrees with the
last person who typed (no matter what they say) you will know "they" caught
me and fitted a mind control helmet. If you don't hear another word then I
am being vivisected out about alpha centauri somewhere.

Using this site as a reference for the risks of GMOs and the benefits of
seed saving is doing that cause no good at all.

David

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gunner

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Nov 13, 2009, 10:58:27 AM11/13/09
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"David Hare-Scott" <sec...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Charlie wrote:
.
>>
>> http://personalgrowthcourses.net/video/gmo_food_genetically_modified
>>
>> Thought you and Billy and a few others might find these educational
>> and.....other things.
>>
>> For those who don't, ya' might want to start researching and thinking
>> about seedsaving.
>>
>> Charlie


David writes:

> Look at the other articles:

> The site is dedicated to Personal Growth Courses Oh wow. That is just
> boggling. But wait there's more. How about "The Hidden Knowledge

> Course". Using this site as a reference for the risks of GMOs and the


> benefits of seed saving is doing that cause no good at all.

David


In the case of the People vs. Eco-fringe AKA ELFies, I rest my case.
and invite the "jury" to further review the bonus link on Deconstructing Web
Pages:

http://www.media-awareness.ca/english/resources/educational/teaching_backgrounders/internet/decon_web_pages.cfm

or

http://tinyurl.com/mjx2xv

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David Hare-Scott

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Nov 13, 2009, 4:41:00 PM11/13/09
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Charlie wrote:
> Do you always advocate for throwing out the baby with the bath water,
> David?
>
> Charlie

I am not saying that because so much of their stuff is wrong all of it
_must_ be wrong but why would you shlep through all that nonsense to get to
a few nuggets? It may be logically possible that everything they say about
GMO issues is well reasoned and supported by evidence and the waffle about
mind control etc can and should be safely ignored. But from the point of
view of winning hearts and minds using such a site as reference is not how I
would go about it.

If I wanted to choose an advocate for a particular point of view I would at
try to get one that was not showing such poor standards in presentation and
explanation of material and particularly did not repackage loony-tunes
issues for the sake of commercial gain. With supporters like that who needs
detractors.

David

Wildbilly

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Nov 15, 2009, 9:51:06 PM11/15/09
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In article <hdirti$esf$1...@news.albasani.net>,
"David Hare-Scott" <sec...@nospam.com> wrote:

> Charlie wrote:
> > Came across this, and other links on the page, and found them very
> > well produced. Old news really, more detailed and more info, for
> > video production. Link to dangers of aspartame use and other goodies.
> >
> > http://personalgrowthcourses.net/video/gmo_food_genetically_modified
> >
> > Thought you and Billy and a few others might find these educational
> > and.....other things.
> >
> > For those who don't, ya' might want to start researching and thinking
> > about seedsaving.
> >
> > Charlie
>
> Look at the other articles:
>
>
> Cold fusion
> UFOs
> Kennedy Assassinations
> Mind Control

See MKUltra. It didn't work but it ruined a number of lives.

> Aspatarme risks
> The Evils of inoculation
> ..and on and on....
>
>
> The site is dedicated to Personal Growth Courses Oh wow. That is just
> boggling. But wait there's more. How about "The Hidden Knowledge Course".
> Where is my robe and my athame? Where is my power-charged crystal, my
> rabbit's foot, my car that runs on water...... Oh my goodness I must get
> some laying on of hands before I faint.
>
> "Conspiracy Theories Old and New" would be better. "Internet Hoaxes We Know
> and Love" would be better still.
>
> I probably won't be able to post much more as "they" will be on to me. They
> can trace you through the ether you know. If in the next few days the
> person posting under my name is all sweetness and light and agrees with the
> last person who typed (no matter what they say) you will know "they" caught
> me and fitted a mind control helmet. If you don't hear another word then I
> am being vivisected out about alpha centauri somewhere.
>
> Using this site as a reference for the risks of GMOs and the benefits of
> seed saving is doing that cause no good at all.
>
> David

--
�When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist.�
-Archbishop Helder Camara

http://tinyurl.com/o63ruj
http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm

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Wildbilly

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:30:30 PM11/16/09
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In article <63d3g558jlbjvmin0...@4ax.com>,
Rick <n...@spam.please> wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:47:10 +1100, "David Hare-Scott"
> <sec...@nospam.com> wrote:
>

> Snerk! I'd say this is a perfect site for discourse on the evils of
> GMO.
I'd say that you haven't been introduced to the wonders of spliceosomes.
Strange proteins (re: allergens) may end up being the biggest problem
with GMOs.
>
> -Rick


> >
> >I probably won't be able to post much more as "they" will be on to me. They
> >can trace you through the ether you know. If in the next few days the
> >person posting under my name is all sweetness and light and agrees with the
> >last person who typed (no matter what they say) you will know "they" caught
> >me and fitted a mind control helmet. If you don't hear another word then I
> >am being vivisected out about alpha centauri somewhere.
> >
> >Using this site as a reference for the risks of GMOs and the benefits of
> >seed saving is doing that cause no good at all.
> >
> >David
> >
> >
> >
> >

Wildbilly

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:34:13 PM11/16/09
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In article <hdkjpt$7hr$1...@news.albasani.net>,
"David Hare-Scott" <sec...@nospam.com> wrote:

Even a broken watch is right twice a day (analogue that is;O)

gunner

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Nov 17, 2009, 12:52:03 PM11/17/09
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"Wildbilly" <wldbilly@without_a.net> wrote in message
news:wldbilly-9E63B8...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au...

> In article <63d3g558jlbjvmin0...@4ax.com>,
> Rick <n...@spam.please> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:47:10 +1100, "David Hare-Scott"
>> <sec...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Charlie wrote:
>> >> Came across this, and other links on the page, and found them very
>> >> well produced. Old news really, more detailed and more info, for
>> >> video production. Link to dangers of aspartame use and other goodies.
>> >>
>> >> http://personalgrowthcourses.net/video/gmo_food_genetically_modified
>> >>
>> >> Thought you and Billy and a few others might find these educational
>> >> and.....other things.
>> >>
>> >> For those who don't, ya' might want to start researching and thinking
>> >> about seedsaving.
>> >>
>> >> Charlie
>> >
>> >Look at the other articles:
>> >
>> >
>> >Cold fusion
>> >UFOs
>> >Kennedy Assassinations
>> >Mind Control
>> >Aspatarme risks
>> >The Evils of inoculation
>> >..and on and on....
>> >
>> >
>> >The site is dedicated to Personal Growth Courses Oh wow. .....

>> >Where is my robe and my athame? Where is my power-charged crystal, my
>> >rabbit's foot, my car that runs on water...... Oh my goodness I must
>> >get some laying on of hands before I faint.
>> >
>> >"Conspiracy Theories Old and New" would be better. "Internet Hoaxes We
>> >Know and Love" would be better still.
>>
>> Snerk! I'd say this is a perfect site for discourse on the evils of
>> GMO.

Rick


The Grand Shaman's omnipotent reply:

> I'd say that you haven't been introduced to the wonders of spliceosomes.
> Strange proteins (re: allergens) may end up being the biggest problem
> with GMOs.

The problem with us poor unwashed minions billy, is we didn't get picked to
be on the personal mission from God.
We don't have the tin foil hat advantage your eco-fringely squad does to see
all these evils as clearly as you portend.

But do keep defending this "site" as one of yours. I see you already used
potatoes as your anchor linkage and diversion.

Would anyone else like Kool-aid while we await the Mother ship?

If the Canadians can teach their HS students, you think we could at least
teach our adults.
http://tinyurl.com/mjx2xv

Gary Woods

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Nov 17, 2009, 1:29:46 PM11/17/09
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Wildbilly <wldbilly@without_a.net> wrote:

>Even a broken watch is right twice a day (analogue that is;O)

<Pedant>
Unless it's a European AKA "Navy time" watch/clock.
</Pedant>

Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Wildbilly

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Nov 19, 2009, 1:02:54 AM11/19/09
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In article <hdirti$esf$1...@news.albasani.net>,
"David Hare-Scott" <sec...@nospam.com> wrote:

> Charlie wrote:
> > Came across this, and other links on the page, and found them very
> > well produced. Old news really, more detailed and more info, for
> > video production. Link to dangers of aspartame use and other goodies.
> >
> > http://personalgrowthcourses.net/video/gmo_food_genetically_modified
> >
> > Thought you and Billy and a few others might find these educational
> > and.....other things.
> >
> > For those who don't, ya' might want to start researching and thinking
> > about seedsaving.
> >
> > Charlie
>
> Look at the other articles:
>
>
> Cold fusion

Unreproduceable
> UFOs
Who knows?
> Kennedy Assassinations
They didn't die from natural death
> Mind Control
I'm sure that they are still working on it.
> Aspatarme risks
How much methanol is good for you?
> The Evils of inoculation
From adjuvants to Thiomersal, or sodium ethylmercurithiosalicylate one
has to wonder about what is going into your body,


> ..and on and on....
>
>
> The site is dedicated to Personal Growth Courses Oh wow. That is just
> boggling. But wait there's more. How about "The Hidden Knowledge Course".
> Where is my robe and my athame? Where is my power-charged crystal, my
> rabbit's foot, my car that runs on water...... Oh my goodness I must get
> some laying on of hands before I faint.
>
> "Conspiracy Theories Old and New" would be better. "Internet Hoaxes We Know
> and Love" would be better still.
>
> I probably won't be able to post much more as "they" will be on to me. They
> can trace you through the ether you know. If in the next few days the
> person posting under my name is all sweetness and light and agrees with the
> last person who typed (no matter what they say) you will know "they" caught
> me and fitted a mind control helmet. If you don't hear another word then I
> am being vivisected out about alpha centauri somewhere.
>
> Using this site as a reference for the risks of GMOs and the benefits of
> seed saving is doing that cause no good at all.
>
> David

These films didn't arise from a single source. The BBC produced the
"Power of Nightmares", a film about the rise of the neo-cons. "The
Future of Food" is on sale at many organic grocery stores. The following
is a bibliography of major articles, research, and publications relevant
to the issues discussed in The Future of Food:
Books
Kimbrell, Andrew. Fatal Harvest: The Tragedy of Industrial Agriculture.
California: Island Press 2002.
Smith, Jeffrey M. Seeds of Deception: Exposing Industry and Government
Lies About the Safety of the Genetically Engineered Foods You're Eating.
Fairfield, IA: Yes! Books 2003.
Lapp�, Marc, Ph.D. & Bailey, Britt. Against the Grain: Biotechnology and
the Corporate Takeover of Your Food. Monroe, ME: Common Courage Press
1998.
Fowler, Cary & Mooney, Pat: Shattering: Food, Politics, and The Loss of
Genetic Diversity. Tuscon, AZ: The University of Arizona Press 1990.
Charles, Daniel: Lords of the Harvest: Biotech, Big Money, and The
Future of Food. Cambridge, MA: Perseus Publishing 2001.

As for Media Censorship you need look no further than
http://www.projectcensored.org/ .

I can't speak to each of these subjects but I suggest that you make your
own inquiries, and make up your own mind, based on the facts that you
find, and not just dismiss them based on the fact that Cold Fusion was a
hoax.

Can we have a little critical thinking here?

Wildbilly

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Nov 19, 2009, 1:17:12 AM11/19/09
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In article <hdkjpt$7hr$1...@news.albasani.net>,
"David Hare-Scott" <sec...@nospam.com> wrote:

Well, we could just recommend that everyone rush out and rent the movie
at your local video store. Where else do you suggest that we look at it
for free? If the web site has wacky info, they probably are getting
credibility from posting "The Future of Food". I must admit that I
haven't been through the site, but then I have time constraints because
I have to work. Maybe you could go over the highlights of some of their
wackier assertions.

Wildbilly

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Nov 19, 2009, 1:19:07 AM11/19/09
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In article <irq5g59e3ii02b33h...@4ax.com>,
Gary Woods <garyu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

That would make it once a day then that it was right. So, would you say
that it was always wrong?

Wildbilly

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Nov 19, 2009, 2:10:10 PM11/19/09
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In article <BKOdnVN_vP5udZzW...@earthlink.com>,
Balvenieman <balve...@invalid.net> wrote:

> Gary Woods <garyu...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > would the good folks who have
> >to prove that their (organ of your choice) is bigger than the opposition
> >please include [testosterone] in the Subject: so the rest of us can filter
> >appropriately?
>
> In RE: your nntp header: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652
> Dat ol' "ignore thread" worked well for me. However, I'm configured
> to start a new thread if subject changes....(sigh)
> OB rec.gardens: Got my grocery store garlic cooling in the fridge.
> Plan to get it into the ground in December, although, daytime temps in
> 70's and 80's are common then. As a rule, we don't get freezing temps
> before January or February and even then duration is considered in
> hours, not days. If I have any success at all, next year I'll be ready
> with some interesting Gulf coast acclimatized variety. If you purchase
> from an online source, how early in the calendar year do you order?

You can order anytime, but they won't ship until Spring.

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