Will Tillotson's Roses - Long
Candy
Roses of Yesterday and Today, circa 1959.
I have been entranced by this small package of luscious prose, dripping in
delectable adjectives, black and white photos, and cheery anecdotes.
I would love to hear some of your favorite descriptions of our mutual
passion.
Here's a few samples from said catalog:
Reine des Violettes. H. Perpetual. (1860.) 6 - 8 feet.
(Wren-day-Vee-oh-lett.)
A beautiful rose! I think of pastel crayons from pink through lilac and blue
to deep magenta, smeared one over the other to achieve the delightful smoky
effect of its color. Plant hardy, thornless, glossy leaved. Flowers many
petaled and fragrant. Always in bloom.
"The flowers are scrumptious - that amazing burst of color! On my early
morning round of the garden I pick off the spent flowers, and stuff them in
my kimono sleeves. What a delight to wear it thereafter. She is the most
fragrant."
Amy Greenwell, Hawaii. 3 for 4.50 each 1.75
Rose A Parfum de l'Hay. H. Rugosa. (1903.) 4 - 5 feet.
This is a hybrid of many crosses in which the special qualities of each type
appear to be maintained instead of blended. flowers like a hybrid
perpetual - large, full-petalled cherry-red; has the hardiness of the
rugosa - and a "contralto scent in contrast with the tea's soprano."
Says St. Clair Garwood, Xenia, Ohio - "Each year Parfum de l'Hay grows
bigger, better and more beautiful. On a recent June night when the garden
was filled with a heavenly scent, I took my flashlight, followed my nose,
and came to l'Hay."
And write The John Bolanders, Newark, Ohio, (in May) - "Rose a Parfum de
l'Hay! -WOW!- 84 blooms and fragrance!"
Rates a lot of exclamation points- 3 for 4.50 each 1.75
Sombreuil. Tea. (1856.) (Som-broo-ee.) 4 - 6 feet.
Classed as a tea rose in Modern Roses IV, but there the likeness ends. In
plant habit, bloom, fragrance, it is quite unique - some growth tall and
upright, other growth arching. Makes an excellent shrub or short pillar.
Would like to share with you my enjoyment of Mrs. Clara Ruball-Petre's
description of the blooms. "Glorious in form, varied and rich in its creamy
color, beautiful from start to finish! The deep cup opens slowly with
stately grace - the tall guard petals reflex upon the stem and then each
rank of petals following turn back even to those of the centre. The whole
waved and coifed, every petal incredibly neatly and gracefully disposed, its
rich creamy centre displayed. Even in death the flower is without view of
decay - the white petals scattering in the air." 3 for 5.25
each 2.00
j del col
'Twas a Tillotson's catalog that got me interested in OGR's many
years ago. Then the firm became Roses of Yesterday and Today and was
eventually destroyed, IMHO, by an infestation of the MBA mentality and rose
viruses.
J. Del Col
Mel Hulse
del...@ab.edu says...
> Twas a Tillotson's catalog that got me interested in OGR's many
> years ago. Then the firm became Roses of Yesterday and Today and was
> eventually destroyed, IMHO, by an infestation of the MBA mentality and rose
> viruses.
Perhaps, but the loss of Will and Ms. Wiley <senior moment> had most to
do with it. The nursery survives with own roots as Roses of Yesterday.
Don't know if they are mailing yet.
--
Regards,
Mel Hulse, Col. USAF (Ret'd)
Silicon Valley Rose Farmer
Support Your Public Rose Garden
MelH...@PacBell.net
Candy
"Mel Hulse" <MelH...@PacBell.Net> wrote in message
> In article del...@ab.edu says...
>
> > Twas a Tillotson's catalog that got me interested in OGR's many
> > years ago.
anyway. =)
> > Then the firm became Roses of Yesterday and Today and was
> > eventually destroyed, IMHO, by an infestation of the MBA mentality and
rose
> > viruses.
Are you referring to rose mosaic virus? If so, how is this possible? I
thought the mosaic virus was only transmitted through vegetative
propagation. Weren't the RYT roses own root? (apologizing in advance for not
knowing squat about vegetative propagation)
>
> Perhaps, but the loss of Will and Ms. Wiley <senior moment> had most to
> do with it. The nursery survives with own roots as Roses of Yesterday.
> Don't know if they are mailing yet.
Here's a link:
http://www.rosesofyesterday.com/roseo.htm
Looks like they're taking a few years off from shipping to raise the baby.
Candy
Gail Futoran
catalogue from
> Roses of Yesterday and Today, circa 1959.
> I have been entranced by this small package of luscious
prose, dripping in
> delectable adjectives, black and white photos, and cheery
I loved reading this, Candy. Thanks for
sharing. :)
Gail
Candy
"Gail Futoran" sez:
> I loved reading this, Candy. Thanks for
> sharing. :)
>
pins and needles! =)
Candy
> Gail
>
>
Silvirado
>Are you referring to rose mosaic virus? If so, how is this possible? I
>thought the mosaic virus was only transmitted through vegetative
>propagation. Weren't the RYT roses own root?
Nope. Grafted.
I still have three of my RYT OGR's that have traveled from Seattle to Orange
County CA to Arizona ( poor creatures must be wondering if this heat will EVER
END!)
And I still have a couple of old catalogs too, the descriptions are sure to
make you lust after every single rose in it.
Julia
> 'Twas a Tillotson's catalog that got me interested in OGR's many
> years ago. Then the firm became Roses of Yesterday and Today and was
> eventually destroyed, IMHO, by an infestation of the MBA mentality and rose
> viruses.
It has been revived by children/grand-children.
http://www.rosesofyesterday.com/
--
Julia
Visit the San Diego Rose Society at:
http://www.geocities.com/sdrosea
Roseseek
>>years ago. Then the firm became Roses of Yesterday and Today and was
>>eventually destroyed, IMHO, by an infestation of the MBA mentality and rose
>>viruses.
>
>
Yup, the virus issue was a biggie, but the worst was the total lack of customer
service. You had to BUY a catalog every year, no matter how many roses you'd
bought from them the year before. Inquiries brought terse, snotty marginal
notations sent back on your inquiry. Many years ago, a friend had told me they
grew a rose I'd sought in the display garden. He'd seen it on a trip to ROYAT.
I'd sought the rose for years, and sent a letter to ROYAT requesting either to
be allowed to purchase some budwood or cuttings, or to pay them to custom
propagate it for me. I even offered to pay then what they wanted to do it. My
letter was sent back, with a terse reply written in the margin, that they don't
grow the rose as it was awful. They don't custom propagate anything, nor would
they consider selling me any wood. The person who'd told me the rose was there
"didn't know what the h**l he was talking about". The following summer, I went
to ROYAT, and the rose I'd inquire about was THERE. It was a very old bush,
obviously badly grown in that spot for many years, as were most of them in their
display garden. They basically didn't want to be bothered, and couldn't even be
nice about it. In such a "cottage" industry, such nastiness catches up with you.
It obviously did with them.
j del col
Yep. It's the MBA mentality. All that matters is the bottom line.
Customers are witless sheep. There's no difference between selling plumbing
parts and roses.
Many good businesses have been destroyed this way, and the locusts who
do the damage just move on to another one.
The story of the Mr. Gasket company in Cleveland is a fine illustration. The
company was founded by a a hotrod enthusiast to supply high tech gaskets
for other automotive nuts. He built a thriving business and sold it
for several million bucks to W.R. Grace. The MBA's at Grace fired the
old timers who knew the business, and within two years Grace "managed" the
company into receivership. The original owner bought it back for a
fraction of what he had been paid for it and restored it to profitability.
The yuppies at Grace considered hotrodders to be grubby fingered
semi-literates, unworthy to share a latte with
management. That the hotrodders were the company's prime customers
mattered not.
J. Del Col
Radika Kesavan
>> Yup, the virus issue was a biggie, but the worst was the total lack of customer
>> service. ... They basically didn't want to be bothered, and couldn't even be
>> nice about it. In such a "cottage" industry, such nastiness catches up with you.
>> It obviously did with them.
This was very sad to read. Even if it is not a cottage industry, Kim, no one
succeeds in any industry unless he (or she) wants to be bothered, and is nice
about it as well.
In every North American Company in which I had worked, I was taught as were the
rest of us, that unless we cared about our work with the consumer of the
products of our research, we will not succeed and that our company will
flounder. It would appear that my educational experiences were not the norm.
>There's no difference between selling plumbing parts and roses.
J. Del Col, that is the absolute truth. There is indeed no difference between
selling plumbing and roses.
>Many good businesses have been destroyed this way, and the locusts who
>do the damage just move on to another one.
Yes.
>The story of the Mr. Gasket company in Cleveland is a fine illustration. The
>company was founded by a a hotrod enthusiast to supply high tech gaskets
>for other automotive nuts. He built a thriving business and sold it
>for several million bucks to W.R. Grace. The MBA's at Grace fired the
>old timers who knew the business, and within two years Grace "managed" the
>company into receivership. The original owner bought it back for a
>fraction of what he had been paid for it and restored it to profitability.
What a story! Thanks for telling it.
Isn't W. R. Grace the company that was depicted in the movie A Civil Action? I
had not seen the movie, but remember that it was about three companies being
sued for drinking water contamination in the Woburn, Massachusetts area.
>The yuppies at Grace considered hotrodders to be grubby fingered
>semi-literates, unworthy to share a latte with
>management. That the hotrodders were the company's prime customers
>mattered not.
Hmmm .... by demography, I am a Yuppie (though I am no longer young nor
upcoming). I hope that I would have enough sense to not think disrespectfully of
any people simply because they happen to be very different from me; besides, I
prefer Cappuccino to Latte, and I have never been part of the "management" ;-).
--
Radika
Santa Clara Valley
California