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Martin H. Eastburn

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Oct 21, 2009, 10:25:12 PM10/21/09
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Our yellows were blooming last week and the reds are in bloom now.

Some roses are one-time-only but there are those that bloom and bloom.
[ our purples are not blooming nor are the pinks ]
Martin

Dennis M wrote:
> I arose about a week and a half ago to find the rose bush in my back yard
> with two small blooms and a few in the bud stage. Is it common for roses to
> decide to bloom in October? Usually it's just for a few weeks in May/early
> June and then that's it. The two small blooms are still there now, even
> though it's been colder than usual here in Tennessee during October. We've
> had a few nights when it's gotten down to 33-35 but so far no hard frosts.
> This is the first time I've noticed this, even though I've only been at
> this location for three years.

David E. Ross

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Oct 22, 2009, 12:57:48 AM10/22/09
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On 10/21/2009 2:40 PM, Dennis M wrote:
> I arose about a week and a half ago to find the rose bush in my back yard
> with two small blooms and a few in the bud stage. Is it common for roses to
> decide to bloom in October? Usually it's just for a few weeks in May/early
> June and then that's it. The two small blooms are still there now, even
> though it's been colder than usual here in Tennessee during October. We've
> had a few nights when it's gotten down to 33-35 but so far no hard frosts.
> This is the first time I've noticed this, even though I've only been at
> this location for three years.

This might be unusual where you live, but not in my garden. 'Pink
Perfume' and 'Color Magic' just finished blooming. 'Honor', climbing
'4th of July', 'Salmon Ovation' (a miniature), and 'Arizona' are
blooming right now. 'Mr. Lincoln', 'Iceberg', 'Sunsprite', and climbing
'Dublin Bay' have buds that will open within a week. I expect climbing
'Peace' will bloom before Thanksgiving.

That accounts for 11 of my 14 roses. The three remaining are struggling
because they are too close to my oak tree.

It's not unusual for some of my roses to be in bloom on New Years Day,
when I'm pruning them. Then I present my wife with a rose bouquet to
brighten her day.

After pruning early in January, my roses start blooming again in April.
Some remain in bloom almost continuously until pruned again at the end
of the year. Others bloom on and off, but they repeat every few weeks
throughout the spring, summer, and fall.

If your roses don't normally bloom at this time of year, that is a
result of your climate. But if your roses only bloom once a year ("for
a few weeks in May/early June and then that's it"), you picked the wrong
varieties, prune them wrong, or fail to feed and water them properly.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening diary at <http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary>

DEM

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Oct 22, 2009, 10:36:58 AM10/22/09
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>I arose about a week and a half ago to find the rose bush in my back yard
> with two small blooms and a few in the bud stage. Is it common for roses
> to
> decide to bloom in October? Usually it's just for a few weeks in May/early
> June and then that's it. The two small blooms are still there now, even
> though it's been colder than usual here in Tennessee during October. We've
> had a few nights when it's gotten down to 33-35 but so far no hard frosts.
> This is the first time I've noticed this, even though I've only been at
> this location for three years.

No roses blooming but I have an Indian Crab Apple tree that just burst out
with a couple of beautiful pink blossoms!

Donna
in WA


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Cheryl Isaak

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Oct 23, 2009, 7:08:48 AM10/23/09
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On 10/22/09 2:05 PM, in article
dennism3-ya0240800...@news.datemas.de, "Dennis M"
<denn...@dennism3.invalid> wrote:

>> But if your roses only bloom once a year ("for a few weeks in
>> May/early June and then that's it"), you picked the wrong varieties,
>

> I didn't pick them, I inherited them from the previous homeowner. I imagine
> they're just your run of the mill red variety, nothing exotic.
>
Sorry I missed your original post - take them for the gift they are. My
grandmother always called those fall roses gifts of grace.

Cheryl

DEM

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Oct 23, 2009, 10:50:06 AM10/23/09
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>
>>> But if your roses only bloom once a year ("for a few weeks in
>>> May/early June and then that's it"), you picked the wrong varieties,
>>
>> I didn't pick them, I inherited them from the previous homeowner. I
>> imagine
>> they're just your run of the mill red variety, nothing exotic.


> Sorry I missed your original post - take them for the gift they are. My
> grandmother always called those fall roses gifts of grace.
>
> Cheryl


Gifts of grace....thtt's exactly what they are having come the words
of an elder who would know.

Thanks, Cheryl.

Donna
in WA

jeff

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Oct 23, 2009, 2:03:44 PM10/23/09
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Dennis M wrote:
> I arose about a week and a half ago to find the rose bush in my back yard
> with two small blooms and a few in the bud stage. Is it common for roses to
> decide to bloom in October? Usually it's just for a few weeks in May/early
> June and then that's it. The two small blooms are still there now, even
> though it's been colder than usual here in Tennessee during October. We've
> had a few nights when it's gotten down to 33-35 but so far no hard frosts.

Got a few blooming here in zone 7, and I have one rose that has it's
first bloom of the year, and it's a beaut. If you have an everbearing
rose, my observation is that they kick in after a wet spell, which we've
had.

Jeff

David E. Ross

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Oct 23, 2009, 5:13:33 PM10/23/09
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On 10/22/2009 11:05 AM, Dennis M wrote:
>> But if your roses only bloom once a year ("for a few weeks in
>> May/early June and then that's it"), you picked the wrong varieties,
>
> I didn't pick them, I inherited them from the previous homeowner. I imagine
> they're just your run of the mill red variety, nothing exotic.
>
>> prune them wrong,
>
> Don't do a lot of pruning unless a stem gets completely out of hand and
> begins to touch the ground, then I might prune some of the other stems
> while I'm at it.
>
> I was told to prune the stem in a diagonal direction about an inch or two
> after a perpendicular stem, and that's the way I do it.

>
>> or fail to feed and water them properly.
>
> I never "feed or water" them, I'm not really a big flower/plant person. I'm
> happy to just appreciate them for the few weeks in May, this year they were
> particularly big and beautiful.
>
> Another thing I thought of, they could've decided to bloom in the fall
> because it's been pretty rainy the past couple of months.

Roses do best if they are severely but carefully pruned in the early
spring (or -- in my climate -- early winter). Go to a good public
library and look for a book on general pruning; most will have a section
just on roses.

Roses require ample water. The soil should remain quite moist during
the growing season, but it should not be soggy.

Roses also require ample nutrients, especially nitrogen. If your soil
tends to be acidic, any general high-nitrogen garden fertilizer --
organic or not -- should be okay. If your soil tends to be alkaline,
dig a little soil sulfur into the top inch of the soil. If leaves are
yellow with green veins, spread a little iron sulfate around the plants.

Most roses sold today are hybrids. They are not natural plants and thus
require more care than Mother Nature provides. If you plan to continue
neglecting your roses, you might as well remove them and plant something
else.

Cheryl Isaak

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Oct 24, 2009, 10:13:51 AM10/24/09
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On 10/23/09 10:50 AM, in article yojEm.286146$cf6.2...@newsfe16.iad, "DEM"
<bck...@q.com> wrote:

You're welcome!
Cheryl

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one@bellsouth.com James

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Oct 25, 2009, 7:42:56 AM10/25/09
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Walmart sells a watering pail for $3 that would be perfect to water one
bush......

James
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I'll try to remember to throw a bucket of water on them regularly next
season, maybe even buy some plant food for them. The big problem is my
water tap/lawn hose is in the front of the house, and the rose bush is in
the backyard. Kind of big hassle to drag it all the way around just to
water one plant.


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Bonsaisr

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Oct 30, 2009, 7:19:44 PM10/30/09
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On Oct 25, 2:48 pm, denni...@dennism3.invalid (Dennis M) wrote:
> In article <vOCdnSHgM54mpHnXnZ2dnUVZ_rOdn...@posted.localnet>, "James" <no

>
> o...@bellsouth.com> wrote:
> >Walmart sells a watering pail for $3 that would be perfect to water one
> >bush......
>
> >James
>
> cool I'll check it out

Bridal wreath spiraea is not a rose, although it belongs to that
family. It has white clusters in May-June. You have the name mixed up.
I am in Zone 5, Central NY. The weather is unusual. We have not has
killing frost yet. I was able to cut a couple of roses and two stems
of Iris 'Immortality' today for the dinner table. Unheard of!
Iris

robin

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Just testing, please ignore this post, thanks..
"Dennis M" <denn...@dennism3.invalid> wrote in message
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>I arose about a week and a half ago to find the rose bush in my back yard
> with two small blooms and a few in the bud stage. Is it common for roses
> to
> decide to bloom in October? Usually it's just for a few weeks in May/early
> June and then that's it. The two small blooms are still there now, even
> though it's been colder than usual here in Tennessee during October. We've
> had a few nights when it's gotten down to 33-35 but so far no hard frosts.
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