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Dazzler

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Dec 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/3/99
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BOB! if you can tear yourself away from averaging out rose ratings, hie
thee to a book store and flip through a copy of "Impressionist
Roses"... Giverny, for instance, is laid out in parallel beds that, when
you're standing perpendicular to them, look like one humongous mass of
color and blooms -- ideal for painting or, I should imagine,
photography. (I am devouring this book and have, in my head at least,
totally re-vamped my garden. Thank you very much.)


Bob Bauer

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Dec 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/3/99
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Dazzler shouted:

>BOB! if you can tear yourself away from averaging out rose ratings, hie
>thee to a book store and flip through a copy of "Impressionist
>Roses"

Hey, that sounds like a good one. I will DEFinitely check it out.
I'm going to the evil Barnes and Noble this afternoon. (I must
confess regarding rose ratings, that I have NEVER actually looked one
up for a specific rose, I would rather come to look at a rose for the
first time with no pre-conceptions)

>... Giverny, for instance, is laid out in parallel beds that, when
>you're standing perpendicular to them, look like one humongous mass of
>color and blooms -- ideal for painting or, I should imagine,
>photography. (I am devouring this book and have, in my head at least,
>totally re-vamped my garden. Thank you very much.)

Has your garden previously been vamped? What does vamping involve?
<g>

Hey, if it's OK wit chew, I may have my wife email you for some rose
book suggestions that just "might" end up in my stocking. (I like
surprises).

Bob B.

Oh...one more thing regarding rose bed plans: I have beds in my
garden with roses only and beds with roses and perennials and beds
with roses, perennials and annuals. It think I like the ones with
everything in them the best.


Dazzler

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Dec 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/3/99
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In article <3847ec06...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
bobb...@worldnet.att.net says...

>Hey, that sounds like a good one. I will DEFinitely check it out.
>I'm going to the evil Barnes and Noble this afternoon. (I must
>confess regarding rose ratings, that I have NEVER actually looked one
>up for a specific rose, I would rather come to look at a rose for the
>first time with no pre-conceptions)

*** you mean you had us running around trying to tally up all those ratings when
you yourself had no plans to do so?...

>Has your garden previously been vamped?

*** my roses are always vamping... some of them are less shy than others... one
of the great queens of this garden is 'James Mason' (go figure <g>)... he's a
pushy sonofagun, too... popping up all over the place... must be in love with
himself or something

>What does vamping involve?

*** flagrantly (and fragrantly <g>) strutting their stuff... you gotta love a
rose what will do that... almost makes you want to hug it... not if it's thorny,
though... 'New Dawn' is always nabbing me... probably should tie her up
better... it seems like every time you tie her up and turn around when you turn
back she's grown another couple of feet! (she and 'JM' would make a good couple)

>Hey, if it's OK wit chew, I may have my wife email you for some rose
>book suggestions that just "might" end up in my stocking. (I like
>surprises).

*** cool! I'll be thinking about suggestions in the meantime!

>Oh...one more thing regarding rose bed plans: I have beds in my
>garden with roses only and beds with roses and perennials and beds
>with roses, perennials and annuals. It think I like the ones with
>everything in them the best.

*** me, too... but SUNNY! and PETROSE! are purists and you can't argue with
success <g>... did you know that (did I already post this? damn!) oh well...
(take two)... did you know that Monet underpainted his standard roses with
geraniums -- not the hardy geraniums, the other *annual* geraniums -- their root
systems don't go too deep, so they might not crowd the roses... it's something
to contemplate...


Bob Bauer

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Dec 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/3/99
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Dazzler wondered:

>*** you mean you had us running around trying to tally up all those ratings when
>you yourself had no plans to do so?...

My motto is: "All Work is best performed by others." <g>

>... did you know that Monet underpainted

Painted or planted? Or both?

> his standard roses with
>geraniums -- not the hardy geraniums, the other *annual* geraniums -- their root
>systems don't go too deep, so they might not crowd the roses... it's something
>to contemplate...

Me and Monet. Yeah..... I did this this year in a bed and the
bright vibrant colors of the geraniums seemed to overwhelm the roses I
had there. Maybe it would be different with standards.

What was most successful for me as an underplanting were low growing
Verbenas. Also, multicolored Alyssum worked well (not pure white), as
did blue Lobelia and Gazanias on the borders. Anything that doesn't
get over a foot high, and doesn't have overwhelming color is the rule
I think I will follow.

Big blue Delphiniums and Foxgloves were a great thing to have between
roses. (Since there are no blue roses....did I tell you that? I was
shocked when I heard it.)

I made a BIG mistake by planting a few Hollyhocks inbetween some
roses. They grew way too big way too fast. PS: (don't do that)

I'm still experimenting with perennials that I don't know about (there
are so many new ones these days). At the risk of running on and on,
let me say one more thing............Plastics.......no that wasn't
it.....OK, I remember now. Spring flowering perennial recommendation:
Geum, var. Mrs. Bradshaw. (Trumpeter colored <g>) This is a really
good plant. And pretty hardy.

Bob B.
Zone 6 (It's twilight here...)

Dazzler

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Dec 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/3/99
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In article <3848184b...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>, BOB! confesses...

>Painted or planted? Or both?

*** ok, ok... gimmeabreak... every once in a blue moon I make a typo... sheeesh

>I'm still experimenting with perennials that I don't know about (there
>are so many new ones these days). At the risk of running on and on,
>let me say one more thing............Plastics.......no that wasn't
>it.....OK, I remember now. Spring flowering perennial recommendation:
>Geum, var. Mrs. Bradshaw. (Trumpeter colored <g>) This is a really
>good plant. And pretty hardy.

*** BOB! Is this not Fate or what!?!?!?! I live on Bradshaw Road... and I
grow... Geum, var. Mrs. Bradshaw! No kidding. Scout's honor. It's more orangey
than 'Trumpeter'... really. And the deer like it... at least they've been eating
it lately. I have it with 'Scarlet Moss' (red, thank you) and 'Dortmund' (also
red, thank you very much) and it looks orange in comparison to those two. (The
deer like them as well.)

>Zone 6 (It's twilight here...)

*** you poor thing... what happens out in that vast uncharted wilderness in
which you live?... the sun goes down at noon!?!?!?! No wonder you're tired...


lms

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Dec 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/3/99
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In article <3848184b...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
bobb...@worldnet.att.net says...

>Big blue Delphiniums and Foxgloves were a great thing to have between
>roses.

that's great. hey--Olympus C 2000 or Fuji MX 2900. which one?
that's my absolute max, absolutely, btw.

(Since there are no blue roses....did I tell you that? I was
>shocked when I heard it.)
>
>I made a BIG mistake by planting a few Hollyhocks inbetween some
>roses. They grew way too big way too fast. PS: (don't do that)

what you need are miniature hollyhocks.
http://www.nmt.edu/~mstephen/Minholly.jpg
They don't grow so big, they'll grow anywhere and are easy to nuke where
you don't want them. Only there if you want them and they bloom twice,
and for very long time units.

>it.....OK, I remember now. Spring flowering perennial recommendation:
>Geum, var. Mrs. Bradshaw.

Geum is very be a utiful, yes. I'm trying to think whether it's a rose
cuz or not. I don't thinkso. maybe. Potentilla is, that is another very
cool plant which comes in some vivid colors.
Grew the geum for a few years, it croaked off.

(Trumpeter colored <g>) This is a really
>good plant. And pretty hardy.
>

>Bob B.


>Zone 6 (It's twilight here...)

dark here

m


redrose69

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Dec 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/4/99
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Bob Bauer <bobb...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3848184b...@netnews.worldnet.att.net...
: Dazzler wondered:

:
: >*** you mean you had us running around trying to tally up all those
ratings when
: >you yourself had no plans to do so?...
:
: My motto is: "All Work is best performed by others." <g>
: I think I will follow.

rr69->...and here I was patiently...well as patiently as I can get
sometimes
...for your results <g>

:
: Big blue Delphiniums and Foxgloves were a great thing to have between
: roses. (Since there are no blue roses....did I tell you that? I was


: shocked when I heard it.)

rr69->...ah!! ...another MYTH to add to my collection <chortle>

: I made a BIG mistake by planting a few Hollyhocks inbetween some


: roses. They grew way too big way too fast. PS: (don't do that)

rr69->... the last time I planted Hollyhocks it was to cover up the barn
wall that didn't get white-washed the previous year (you must do this)

: Bob B.


: Zone 6 (It's twilight here...)

Wendy
Zone5a (it's really dark here...but it rained today...no snow!)


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