Impressionist roses

[Charles A. Bigelow]

Georges Delbard in France sells a series of "Impressionist" roses or "Roses
de Peintres". Basically, they are striped roses. In looking at the catalog,
I see that the "code" names of three of them are not from Delbard, but
might be from J&P, or another firm that uses the "JAC-" initial sequence.
However, I have never seen these from J&P.

Can anyone tell me the original firm and hybridizer that raised these?

trade name code name
----------------------------
Claude Monet jacdesa
Paul Gaugin jacdebu
Paul Cezanne jacdeli

-- Chuck Bigelow

[Purple Tiger z-5/6]

In article <55umcr$9...@Radon.Stanford.EDU>, big...@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU
says...

I seem to remember that J&P was selling Monet last time I really perused one
of their catalogs, so that would seem to support your theory that they are
introducing them. I don't beleive I've seen the Gaugin or Cezanne, but
Monet looked lovely. (J&P photographers sure know their stuff!) Can't help
you on who actually brushed the pollen onto the stamens (pistils?) if that's
what you wanted to know.

Katherine
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA
kyn...@casbah.acns.nwu.edu

[pet...@earthlink.net]

Charles A. Bigelow wrote:
> Can anyone tell me the original firm and hybridizer that raised these?
>
> trade name code name
> ----------------------------
> Claude Monet jacdesa
> Paul Gaugin jacdebu
> Paul Cezanne jacdeli

Chuck - I have no firm knowledge but do write to note that Delbard was
operating under the Armstrong banner when Moet owned Armstrong so it
may be that the roses Delbard produced belonged to Armstrong and now
to J&P since they have acquired Armstrong. A theory to consider.

[rose...@aol.com]

In article <55umcr$9...@Radon.Stanford.EDU>, big...@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU

(Charles A. Bigelow) writes:

> see that the "code" names of three of them are not from Delbard, but
>might be from J&P, or another firm that uses the "JAC-" initial sequence

Chuck,

If the code names start with JAC.... that means the roses were
definitely _registered_ with the ARS (IRAR) by J&P. Nobody else would be
allowed to register a rose with that code name, if my understanding of the
rules is correct.
Unfortunately, the fact that they were registered by J&P tells us
nothing about who hybridized them. Delbard may have sold the rights to
J&P...... (and then leased them back??)

Marily Young/Glenview, IL/Northeastern Illinois Rose Society

[Sam McGredy]

big...@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU (Charles A. Bigelow) wrote:

>trade name code name
>----------------------------
>Claude Monet jacdesa
>Paul Gaugin jacdebu
>Paul Cezanne jacdeli
>
>

All raised by Jack Christensen when he was with Armstrongs, who were
bought by Delbard and then sold (sans those varieties) to J&P.
--
Sam McGredy OBN,