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K Barrett
magazine for the general public. I go to Barnes and Noble ever so often
and see mags on breeds of dogs, woodturning, crafts and hobbies, and
wonder why isn't there a non-society orchid mag? I subscribe to 'The
Pastel Journal' fer crying out loud, and they seem to be making a go of
it. I'm not even an artist! Their picture quality ranks up with anything
the OD puts out. Advertisments would carry the cost of a mag, not
subscriptions.
I'm given to understand that interst in orchids is decreasing, and some
mags are folding. I really can't believe that's true.
I also am given to understand that the big hurdle to leap is
distribution. I did a rudimantary search on the web and that doesn't
seem insurmountable. I think the biggest hurdle would be articles...
LOL!!!
How crazy am I?
K Barrett
Phaius
year and what kind of capital investment they take before putting out the
first issue.
I still think a web mag is the way to go these days
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the Drudge report...
I should find out how Greg Allikas/Ned Nash coffeetable orchid book
sold, and try to play to that same market. I just can't imagine that
magazines of woodturning make it yet there's *nothing* on orchids.
K Barrett
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I'm not really up on online mags. I just know they would have to be lots
cheaper to produce and if you get your feet wet there you can move to print.
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Bob Wellenstein
remember seeing it at Barnes and Noble for a couple of months, but think it
then disappeared, why don't you ask them what happened?
--
Bob & Lynn Wellenstein
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advertisers. Odd way of looking at things, eh? You'd think it would be
the other way around.
K
K Barrett
ed of Orchid Australia for 10 yrs. He was the one who said interest in
orchids was waning, but I assume he ment down under. Orchids have never
had such popularity before in teh US - as I'm sure you know.
K Barrett
Diana Kulaga
No problem. I'm a writer. And I do it with humor, which would be
essential, I think, for an otc mag.
Have laptop, will email.............BG
Diana
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is an audience. Who would advertise in a low circulation publication? And
you can get by with less advertising if the cost of production is less.
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K Barrett
will advertise with me or I'll kick his butt! (Have any of you met Matt?
He's like 6' 10'' and used to play wide receiver for the Rams before
they moved.)(Kidding!)(But he is bigger than me.)
Off to ask the editor of the Pastel Journal what kind of operating
capital they had when they started.
K Barrett
Who is really just fooling around with this notion, but wonders if it
might not really be doable. (else I wouldn't be bothering you all)
K Barrett
that's what airplanes are for...LOL!!
http://www.entrepreneur.com/Your_Business/YB_SegArticle/0,4621,290081-----,00.html
K Barrett
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an exit strategy.
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going for some time and have a good idea of what it takes. I think they even
won some awards for their Mag
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Never mind, I don't want to know...
K
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what a niche market ferrets are. People get as weird (almost) about them as
they do about orchids!
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Stephen
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plenty of server space and HTML skills....
Kye
Vespaman
Marty Shipps
http://www.orchiddigest.com/. although I can't find it on the rack, the
next best thing is delivered to your home.
--
Marty Shipps
I never met an orchid I didn't like or a cookie I wouldn't eat!
K Barrett
I'd like to put out a mag similar, but designed to capture the Home
Depot crowd, then later entice them into liking the hobby enough to
subscribe to orchid mags like the OD and joining the AOS. Rather like a
bucket orchid and a male euglossine bee!
K Barrett
Susan Erickson
other articles include: White Phalaenopsis hybridizing,
Understanding Roots, and Paph Vietnamense status.
SuE
Matt Swift - Swift's Orchids
think $5. If they don't sell, they don't sell. As expensive as it is, your
membership to AOS is basically just to get the magazine and I think that
pretty much covers the interest out there in addition to the Orchid Digest,
which really is only a magazine albeit for the somewhat advanced grower.
There might be a market out there for more regional orchid magazines but I
doubt that anyone would make any money off of it.
Matthew Swift
Swift's Orchids
www.swiftsorchids.com
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enthusiasts stay enthusiastic?
Like the lady who joined our orchid society, bought a few plants, had
them for a while--and then gave them to my dad, saying they were "too
much trouble."
I joined the AOS, read the magazine--and decided it wasn't for me. (I
am just a hobbyist--no advanced grower, here). I like the Orchid
Digest--by email--as I can scan through and pick out the bits that
interest me.
RGO is a hoot--entertaining and informative. So what if I don't
understand everything AJ is talking about? I can pick up a bit here
and there.
Some of us pea-brains just like fiddling around with the plants and
enjoying the flowers. We couldn't care less about cloning,
hybridizing, flasking, or exotic tiny species on vietnamese
mountaintops. We want to hear about how to build a shadehouse, or an
orchid stand, or what fertilizer to use when. When you start talking
about RO water filters and ppm, we're lost! <G>
We might appreciate a magazine that had pictorials on pretty new
hybrids or ideas on slathouses and such. Some info on what kind of
orchid grows well in what area of the country. What to do you in your
type of growing space. Sort of a Good Orchid Keeping.
Now that you are gagging, <G>, what the heck is "The Pastel Journal?"
K Barrett
>
> I think the interest in orchids is not waning--but how long do the
> enthusiasts stay enthusiastic?
> Like the lady who joined our orchid society, bought a few plants, had
> them for a while--and then gave them to my dad, saying they were "too
> much trouble."
Alynne, I think you've hit a nail on the head. My society has changed
over 'active' members twice since I joined. I judged a woodturners
competition last year and met an ex AOS judge who quit because all he
had to do was turn off the lathe and walk away when he was done with his
hobby for the day. Didn't have to arrange for vacation help etc.
>
> I joined the AOS, read the magazine--and decided it wasn't for me. (I
> am just a hobbyist--no advanced grower, here). I like the Orchid
> Digest--by email--as I can scan through and pick out the bits that
> interest me.
> RGO is a hoot--entertaining and informative. So what if I don't
> understand everything AJ is talking about? I can pick up a bit here
> and there.
> Some of us pea-brains just like fiddling around with the plants and
> enjoying the flowers. We couldn't care less about cloning,
> hybridizing, flasking, or exotic tiny species on vietnamese
> mountaintops. We want to hear about how to build a shadehouse, or an
> orchid stand, or what fertilizer to use when. When you start talking
> about RO water filters and ppm, we're lost! <G>
> We might appreciate a magazine that had pictorials on pretty new
> hybrids or ideas on slathouses and such. Some info on what kind of
> orchid grows well in what area of the country. What to do you in your
> type of growing space. Sort of a Good Orchid Keeping. Now that you are > gagging, <G>,
No gagging allowed on rgo!!! *G*!! You are talking about exactly what I
wanted to supply. Capture the interested amateur, or the Home Depot
crowd. Provide the sorts of info you are talking about, and maybe also
travel pics of locales with orchids and where to stay when/if you go
there. Decorating with orchids, floral design. Heck who knows... Maybe a
few would transfer over to the AOS. What do you think about 'Sexy
Orchids' as the mag's title?? [kidding!! only kidding!!]
> what the heck is "The Pastel Journal?"
Ha!! Its a magazine devoted solely to artists who work in pastels. Talk
about a limited market!! And talk about a graphics intensive magazine!
But they are making a go of it too. I wrote to their editor/publisher
and also to the ferret mag editor/publishers. I hope I hear back from
them. They have a webpage around here somewhere, if you want to see some
nice art/artists. One thing the editors did for their subscribers was
put the whole first 3 years worth of the mag's pictures in thumbnail
size in a separate handout with reference to the volume in which that
pic appeared. Quite handy. Ane really cool. The cover price on that mag
is $5 but teh subscription price is about the same as People or anything
else.
K Barrett
Matt Swift - Swift's Orchids
Matt
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Gawd, I'm not THAT tall, just 6' 5"
It was the Clippers I played for, they cut me when I asked to be paid. ;-)
I would consider advertising but I can write as well.
Kathy, don't you have enough to do with OrchidSafari and all? Stretch
yourself too thin and your plants will begin to hate you.
Greg Allikas started the O Zone but not for money and he doesn't do much or
any work on it anymore - http://www.orchidworks.com/ozone/
Matthew Swift
Swift's Orchids
www.swiftsorchids.com
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Diana Kulaga
around to joining the local society last month. At first I was impressed by
the number of people in attendance, but then the time droned on (minutes
read, who's responsible for refreshments next month, yadda yadda), and when
the speaker took the floor I couldn't hear her because most of the people
around me were chit chatting about everything EXCEPT orchids. The crowd got
really animated at break time--the line for brownies went on for miles.
What I learned was that all those bodies showed up for a freebie seedling in
memory of a deceased member, and most won't be seen again until the
Christmas party.
To be fair, there were some serious growers there, and I gravitated to them.
I thought about passing on future meetings, but I'm going to hang in. I
tend to try to fix stuff rather than ditch it. Maybe I can make a
contribution for the better, and though I'm no expert, I know at least as
much as 95% of the people who were there. Some were amazed that I have
around 70 plants.
Okay, end of rant.
Diana
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any more. I guess the AOS forum takes up all his time. I hear what you
are saying about my plants hating me!! They are out there wondering why
I haven't turned on the heater yet...
K Barrett
Matt Swift - Swift's Orchids wrote:
>
K Barrett
>
> Huh. I joined AOS right after I started growing orchids, but I only got
> around to joining the local society last month. At first I was impressed by
> the number of people in attendance, but then the time droned on (minutes
> read, who's responsible for refreshments next month, yadda yadda), and when
> the speaker took the floor I couldn't hear her because most of the people
> around me were chit chatting about everything EXCEPT orchids.
Ha!! Sounds pretty typical. Or maybe I should say it sounds like my
society.
The crowd got
> really animated at break time--the line for brownies went on for miles.
Yep, yep, yep!!
>
> What I learned was that all those bodies showed up for a freebie seedling in
> memory of a deceased member, and most won't be seen again until the
> Christmas party.
>
Yep, that's right! LOL!!
> To be fair, there were some serious growers there, and I gravitated to them.
> I thought about passing on future meetings, but I'm going to hang in. I
> tend to try to fix stuff rather than ditch it. Maybe I can make a
> contribution for the better, and though I'm no expert, I know at least as
> much as 95% of the people who were there. Some were amazed that I have
> around 70 plants.
Tell them you learned it all on rgo! Hehe!! People who grow orchids but
aren't on the internet are doing themselves a disservice by passing up
all this good advice, camaraderie, and the opportunity to grow as a
person by having to withstand flame wars. (puts hair on your chest!)
Hang in there with the local society.
K Barrett
Alynne
yakking. They take care of that in the newsletter (recap of the prev
meeting, info, etc.) and at the monthly board meetings.
We say the Pledge of Allegiance. Any quick business announcements
(on the order of the next orchid fair in the area, etc), then on to
the featured speaker. In the meantime, the judges put out the ribbons
for the plants on the show table.
Break for refreshments and time to allow the Silent Auction to finish
up. then, a discussion about the plants that were judged and got
blue ribbons. Last, but not least--a raffle of donated plants.
Takes about two hours and doesn't get dull. We have a good turnout
each month.
But---there are those few that get all enthusiastic and then lose
interest quickly when they find out how much work it is, that the
plants often only bloom once a year, or how quickly scale spreads!
Diana Kulaga
society.<
Good to hear it's typical......(eyes rolling~how about a new acronym: <ERH>
for eyes rolling here?)
>Tell them you learned it all on rgo! Hehe!! People who grow orchids but
aren't on the internet are doing themselves a disservice by passing up all
this good advice, camaraderie, and the opportunity to grow as a person by
having to withstand flame wars. (puts hair on your chest!)
Hang in there with the local society.<
The flame wars are hysterical. I posted something about pesticide residue
recently and it devolved into a challenge between two of our beloveds; one
would eat dursban for a year and the other would eat salt, and they'd
compare notes after the trial period. I love it. And you're right:
there's so much to learn here, and so much support when one is in one's
darkest humor (the spike rotted off, ants are taking over the world, fuzzy
white things have nested overnight on the Den. discolor) <G>.
Trust that I will hang in with the society. Within six months they'll
probably want to give me my dues back in order to get rid of me. Before we
moved to Florida I did motivational speaking and seminars. Just what they
need. A short female Tony Robbins motivating the unmotivated.
Hahaha......I'm getting ideas!
Diana
Diana Kulaga
it, wouldn't you? But noooooooooo! Alynne, I forget where in so. FL you
are. And I'm going to suggest the pledge (already thought of that, but
don't want to come on too strong too fast -- a tendency of mine), among
other things. It's clear, even after one meeting, who "runs" things, and I
think their hearts are in the right place. Which, of course, means their
hearts are with their orchids! Egad, it's their fault. They let me join.
Now they must suffer the consequences!!
Diana
Matt Swift - Swift's Orchids
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business like. None have minute readings--the newsletter covers that.
Everything proceeds in an orderly manner--and the raffle table is
supplied--not donated--by the speaker. Of course, there are times when
the meeting is disrupted by a couple who just HAVE to talk to one
another out of turn, but they are the exception, rather than the rule.
And they are usually hearing deficient , so they don't realize how loud
their voices are. Just part of life, and the speakers kindly overlook
this.
RJ
qualify as a mini-mag. They publish it monthly via PDF and I never miss it.
The layout and setup of the operation may be interesting to someone
contemplating an online mag.
Alynne
OS purchases batches of plants.
I think I like our Silent Auction the best. I've gotten some of my
favorite plants that way!
Alynne
wrote:
OK! go for it!!!
>No gagging allowed on rgo!!! *G*!! You are talking about exactly what I
>wanted to supply. Capture the interested amateur, or the Home Depot
>crowd. Provide the sorts of info you are talking about, and maybe also
>travel pics of locales with orchids and where to stay when/if you go
>there. Decorating with orchids, floral design. Heck who knows... Maybe a
>few would transfer over to the AOS. What do you think about 'Sexy
>Orchids' as the mag's title?? [kidding!! only kidding!!]
>
{snip}
>But they are making a go of it too. I wrote to their editor/publisher
>and also to the ferret mag editor/publishers. I hope I hear back from
>them. They have a webpage around here somewhere, if you want to see some
>nice art/artists.
{snip}
No, but I'd enjoy seeing the ferrets...
Alynne
We meet the second Tuesday of the month. I believe we are meeting at
the Griffiths Park building this month.
Many of the members belong to several societies. Of course, there is
the South Fla society--the one that puts on the Miami Orchid Show.
--the Miramar ORchid society, the Pink Flamingo Orchid Society, the
Flamingo Orchid society, and several more in our area. Take your
pick.
Matt Swift - Swift's Orchids
OS? They couldn't be more creative eh?
Here in Southern California we have an OSSC, SCOS, OSSB, OCOS & SBOS to name
just a few. Try to keep those in order!
Matt
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Coalition for Orchid Species
Coral Gables Orchid Society
East Everglades Orchid Society
Gold Coast Unlimited
Miami Shores Orchid Club
Miami Springs Orchid Society
Miramar Orchid Society
North Dade Orchid Club
Pan American Orchid Society
South Dade Amateur Orchid Club
South Florida Orchid Society
(I think these are all active in Dade County and Southern Broward
county)
There was a Flamingo Gardens Orchid Society
But now there seems to be a Pink Flamingo and a Flamingo
How that happened, I don't know...
lotsa activity here! <G>
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>You mean to tell me that South Florida has a Pink Flamingo OS AND a Flamingo
>OS? They couldn't be more creative eh?
>
>Here in Southern California we have an OSSC, SCOS, OSSB, OCOS & SBOS to name
>just a few. Try to keep those in order!
>
>Matt
>
Matt Swift - Swift's Orchids
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rather childish infighting. Sad, but true. Personality clashes don't
belong in orchid societies, but it's not a perfect world we live in.
Susan Erickson
> because of rather childish infighting. Sad, but true. Personality > clashes don't belong in orchid societies,........
But they cause more orchid societies to be come smaller or create
rules that keep the society from growing. Exclusive rules belong in
Country Clubs not Orchid Societies. Societies should be open. Pay a
small fee for the newsletter service and join our meetings. We will
provide fun, informative discussions every month so you can learn
to grow these frustrating, fascinating plants. We will have some
form of show-n-tell at each meeting to keep you intrigued with what
others are growing. And give you a chance to show off.
OH YA! We will have a show every once in a while to grant bragging
rights.
SuE
Alynne
our meeting is loaded. Certain gentlepersons are noted for their
wonderful plants. Last year, the OS got these folks to allow the rest
of the group to tour their growing spots. It was a very pleasant
learning experience.
I haven't heard of any infighting in our particular OS--maybe they
keep it limited to the board meetings! <G>
>
>OH YA! We will have a show every once in a while to grant bragging
>rights.
>
>SuE