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Billy

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May 13, 2008, 11:43:17 AM5/13/08
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Fellow gardeners, listen up. It appears que le bonne temps va
rouler. Our much maligned "weather guesser" is predicting that
the "Left Coast" will be in the 80's tomorrow and pushing at 100F by
thursday. If the past is any indication, the Mid-West is five days
away from a heat wave. Enjoy the drizzle and overcast while you
can, and get ready to "RUMBLE", er . . . garden, a last:o))
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related

MajorOz

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May 13, 2008, 6:53:40 PM5/13/08
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On May 13, 10:43 am, Billy <wildbi...@getthe.net> wrote:
> Fellow gardeners, listen up. It appears que le bonne temps va
> rouler. Our much maligned "weather guesser" is predicting that
> the "Left Coast" will be in the 80's tomorrow and pushing at 100F by
> thursday. If the past is any indication, the Mid-West is five days
> away from a heat wave. Enjoy the drizzle and overcast while you
> can, and get ready to "RUMBLE", er . . . garden, a last:o))


...'bout damn time....

The local shamans (shamen?) have said that, after three to five inches
of rain Thursday (in an area where a spilled glass of water causes
flooding problems), we are in for FIVE STRAIGHT DAYS OF SUNSHINE.
I have the feeling that, with double the normal rainfall since
Thanxgiving, the ground has compacted, so that, with sunshine, it
should harden into concrete. I have a feeling that my tiller (and I)
will be busy almost all season.
But, mayhap I can mow the two ft. high weeds that cover the
plantation. There has not been enough drying time between floods to
mow all this spring. Thank the FSM that my early crops are easy to
find in 30 in. raised beds.

cheers

oz, changing oil, gapping points, and flushing fuel tanks

P.S. I found some heirloom seedling to replace the ones that blew
away during the last near tornado.

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Billy

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May 14, 2008, 1:02:25 PM5/14/08
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Be careful what you wish for, so the adage goes. 90s for the Left Coast
through at least Sunday, says the weather guesser.

We are working hard out here to send you some heat Charlie.

I'd better go, I think I hear the garden waking up.

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Billy

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May 15, 2008, 10:45:24 AM5/15/08
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In article <uh9m2453ioq6mrfc3...@4ax.com>, Charlie wrote:

Uh oh, no blankets,windows open, and attic fan on last night.
80F this morning at 7 AM.

Weather guesser predicting 101F for in town. We always run a little
hotter.

Brace yourself Charlie;o)

Summer be a comin' in.

Omelet

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May 15, 2008, 11:10:36 AM5/15/08
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In article
<wildbilly-0453B...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
Billy <wild...@getthe.net> wrote:

> Be careful what you wish for, so the adage goes. 90s for the Left Coast
> through at least Sunday, says the weather guesser.
>
> We are working hard out here to send you some heat Charlie.
>
> I'd better go, I think I hear the garden waking up.

We've gotten two good downpours over two days. :-)
I'm HAPPY about that!
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

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Billy

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May 15, 2008, 12:25:42 PM5/15/08
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This morning while walking in the gardens morning mist (it is
usually fog, but this morning it's steam), I came upon a recovering
cauliflower (pre-FePO4 treatment, gotta do it every 2 weeks) that
has purplish-orange eggs (one group of 3 and another of 7) on the
underside of its' leaves. Doesn't match description of cabbage
worms. Probably innocuous, right? Or is this where I bring out the
Sevin, flame throwers, and a tactical nu-clee-ar device?

Omelet

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May 15, 2008, 1:09:21 PM5/15/08
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In article
<wildbilly-883C9...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
Billy <wild...@getthe.net> wrote:

> This morning while walking in the gardens morning mist (it is
> usually fog, but this morning it's steam), I came upon a recovering
> cauliflower (pre-FePO4 treatment, gotta do it every 2 weeks) that
> has purplish-orange eggs (one group of 3 and another of 7) on the
> underside of its' leaves. Doesn't match description of cabbage
> worms. Probably innocuous, right? Or is this where I bring out the
> Sevin, flame throwers, and a tactical nu-clee-ar device?

Oh hell, just squish them, or remove part of the leaf. ;-)

Billy

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May 15, 2008, 1:17:43 PM5/15/08
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In article <ompomelet-8A683...@news.giganews.com>,
Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article
> <wildbilly-883C9...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
> Billy <wild...@getthe.net> wrote:
>
> > This morning while walking in the gardens morning mist (it is
> > usually fog, but this morning it's steam), I came upon a recovering
> > cauliflower (pre-FePO4 treatment, gotta do it every 2 weeks) that
> > has purplish-orange eggs (one group of 3 and another of 7) on the
> > underside of its' leaves. Doesn't match description of cabbage
> > worms. Probably innocuous, right? Or is this where I bring out the
> > Sevin, flame throwers, and a tactical nu-clee-ar device?
>
> Oh hell, just squish them, or remove part of the leaf. ;-)

That was just one plant that is recovering from some heavy grazing.
My cabbage patch has 5 more cauliflowers and a dozen cabbages. I was
hoping to avoid doing daily physicals on the Brassica;o)

Omelet

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May 15, 2008, 1:33:15 PM5/15/08
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In article
<wildbilly-939CD...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
Billy <wild...@getthe.net> wrote:

> In article <ompomelet-8A683...@news.giganews.com>,
> Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <wildbilly-883C9...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
> > Billy <wild...@getthe.net> wrote:
> >
> > > This morning while walking in the gardens morning mist (it is
> > > usually fog, but this morning it's steam), I came upon a recovering
> > > cauliflower (pre-FePO4 treatment, gotta do it every 2 weeks) that
> > > has purplish-orange eggs (one group of 3 and another of 7) on the
> > > underside of its' leaves. Doesn't match description of cabbage
> > > worms. Probably innocuous, right? Or is this where I bring out the
> > > Sevin, flame throwers, and a tactical nu-clee-ar device?
> >
> > Oh hell, just squish them, or remove part of the leaf. ;-)
>
> That was just one plant that is recovering from some heavy grazing.
> My cabbage patch has 5 more cauliflowers and a dozen cabbages. I was
> hoping to avoid doing daily physicals on the Brassica;o)

I feel your pain... ;-D

I've had similar problems in the past with brocolli and chard. The worms
actually claimed a horseradish. <sigh>. The worms have to be picked at
dawn when they are out, and they can make seriously short work of the
plants!

BT???

I've not given it an honest try yet for cabbage worms, but I've read and
heard nothing but good about it.

Billy

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May 15, 2008, 2:25:38 PM5/15/08
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In article <npko24d1v807l3pt8...@4ax.com>, Charlie wrote:

> >Weather guesser predicting 101F for in town. We always run a little
> >hotter.
>

> Uh.......that is way out of range. Please resample.

Ay, ay cap'n. Uh, better make that oy,oy, cap'n. I resampled and the
upshot of it all is that IT'S "HOT".

We be 95F'd cap' @ 11:30 in the blessed AM.

I worry for Emilie, out there in the Devil's own furnace, a.k.a. Cantral
Valley. I can't remember if she has elevation to moderate the heat or is
just gonna' take it in the shorts.

Talk to you on the other side of the heat cap'n.

Shields up, er, umbrellas up.

--
Bush Behind Bars

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBB0svwMdY&feature=related

Billy

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May 15, 2008, 6:01:58 PM5/15/08
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In article <ompomelet-F7A26...@news.giganews.com>,
Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Well, gave the rest of the cauliflowers their physicals, and no sign of
more eggs. The cauliflower with the eggs is a good 50' from the rest of
the brassica, in a six pack, with a couple of recovering green beans, an'
balanced between two tomato arbors 'bout 3' off the ground, where the
dogs and cats would be tempted to nibble them (yesterday I caught Lilly
nibbling on the echinacea). Think I'll hold off on doin' anything that
may be drastic or expensive.

I noticed a couple of patches of green where I had grown my dent corn
last year. The Dent has gone feral on me. It no longer respects the
roles of the gardener and the gardened. I thought that was the big thing
about corn, that it needed to be planted. Well, I had just prepared a
new bed for the Dent corn, so I guess I'll just dig them up and
transplant them;-)

The weather gods have been merciful. After a quick run up of the
temperature this morning, a breeze settled in and is keeping us around
99F accuweather.com & 100F weather.com:o()
--

Billy
Bush Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related

Billy

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May 15, 2008, 9:04:11 PM5/15/08
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In article
<wildbilly-220E7...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,

Billy <wild...@getthe.net> wrote:
>
> The weather gods have been merciful. After a quick run up of the
> temperature this morning, a breeze settled in and is keeping us around
> 99F accuweather.com & 100F weather.com:o()

I may have been a tad precipitous. It is 6 PM and 101F. Instead of
dropping to 93F tomorrow, the forecast now is for 103F. Sunflowers came
up today:-)

Omelet

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May 15, 2008, 9:46:49 PM5/15/08
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In article
<wildbilly-220E7...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
Billy <wild...@getthe.net> wrote:

BT is not expensive. :-)
And it's not a poison. It's a bacteria that kills larvae.

>
> I noticed a couple of patches of green where I had grown my dent corn
> last year. The Dent has gone feral on me. It no longer respects the
> roles of the gardener and the gardened. I thought that was the big thing
> about corn, that it needed to be planted. Well, I had just prepared a
> new bed for the Dent corn, so I guess I'll just dig them up and
> transplant them;-)

Very cool!

>
> The weather gods have been merciful. After a quick run up of the
> temperature this morning, a breeze settled in and is keeping us around
> 99F accuweather.com & 100F weather.com:o()

So far, it's only hit in the 90's here, but it's early yet...

Omelet

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May 15, 2008, 9:47:20 PM5/15/08
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In article
<wildbilly-C66A1...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
Billy <wild...@getthe.net> wrote:

> In article
> <wildbilly-220E7...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
> Billy <wild...@getthe.net> wrote:
> >
> > The weather gods have been merciful. After a quick run up of the
> > temperature this morning, a breeze settled in and is keeping us around
> > 99F accuweather.com & 100F weather.com:o()
>
> I may have been a tad precipitous. It is 6 PM and 101F. Instead of
> dropping to 93F tomorrow, the forecast now is for 103F. Sunflowers came
> up today:-)

I've had wild sunflower coming up for weeks. <g>

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mleblanca

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May 16, 2008, 12:38:39 AM5/16/08
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On May 15, 11:25 am, Billy <wildbi...@getthe.net> wrote:

Well Thank you Billy. We are not at any elevation other than about
200ft.
So yes, it was a hot'un today. my little min/mx thermometer said
"103.5"
today. It's 80 at 9:30pm. Windows all open and fans are going it's
fine.
We didn't stay down here after lunch today. One nice thing about
having
mountains of a good size nearby. A 30mile drive and it was about 78
with
a nice breeze. There are snow drifts in the shade at about 5000 ft
( also a whole lot of snow up at Lassen Nat Park....about 8 feet still
up there
at about 6 or 7000 ft. )

We went looking for early wildflowers at a few favorite meadows/bogs/
creeks.
Found Trilliums, Dogwood, Saxifrage in bud, Cobra Lilies (or CA
Pitcher Plant)
in bloom, Marsh Marigolds (ours are white) Buttercups, Bleedinghearts,
and
Steer's Head (Dicentra uniflora). Lots of little green things poking
their noses
up and the creeks were rushing full of snowmelt. It was a nice day up
there.

I have golf ball sized 'maters and onions, and the boysenberries are
starting
to turn red. I deadheaded roses until about 11 am when it got too hot
in the
sun. That's when we had lunch and headed for the "high country"

Emilie
NorCal

Billy

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May 16, 2008, 1:14:11 AM5/16/08
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In article <gjrp249q6gltd5hu6...@4ax.com>, Charlie wrote:

> On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:04:11 -0700, Billy <wild...@getthe.net> wrote:
>
> >In article
> ><wildbilly-220E7...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
> > Billy <wild...@getthe.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> The weather gods have been merciful. After a quick run up of the
> >> temperature this morning, a breeze settled in and is keeping us around
> >> 99F accuweather.com & 100F weather.com:o()
> >
> >I may have been a tad precipitous. It is 6 PM and 101F. Instead of
> >dropping to 93F tomorrow, the forecast now is for 103F. Sunflowers came
> >up today:-)
>

> Uhhh...sorry to appear ignorant about climate outside of me own
> backyard, but isn't this just a tad bit warmish for this time of year?
> And in your area?
>
> Charlie, looking fer signs of some sort ;-)

Oh, ye know how ma Nature is. Her habits are hard to divine.
Last year we went to 109F in May, very peculiar thing to happen.
In '96, we had rain in June, unheard of. Hot today, worse tomorrow.
Only thing that makes it bearable is knowing that soon, everybody will
be down in the same hole that we are in. Then we can all laugh about
it;o) Uh, that's not PC is it? Hmmm

Watered everything twice today. Found my passion flower. Thought I'd
lost it. Moving a hyssop down to the cabbage patch tomorrow and I'll
look around for my aeration stone. Gotta get up early to finish the
Dent corn patch. It just needs a little chicken doo, rock phosphate,
and some wood ash, and the drip laid out. Beautiful plant, Dent corn.
The Golden Bantam will be better eatin' but the Dent is spectacular too
look at. Goin' to put some of the Mammoth sunflowers in with it. In
the past I had them up by the road but now they will be down by
the front of the house where I can enjoy them more with "happy hour" and
dinner(once the mosquitos shove off).

Got "In Defense of Food " yesterday from the library. It's only a two
week loan so I guess I should get to it.

Fickt Bush.

Billy

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May 16, 2008, 1:21:38 AM5/16/08
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In article <ompomelet-74D79...@news.giganews.com>,
Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote:

I guess you folks be the champions of heat. What was it? One hundred
days of 100F temps or some god awful thing like that? I ain't gonna
bore you with my petty complaints. Sure felt fine to point the spray
nozzle straight up today and pull the trigger, though. Hmmm, hmmm,
hmmm.

Omelet

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May 16, 2008, 11:20:00 AM5/16/08
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In article <3ltp24dvgd9git0gr...@4ax.com>, Charlie wrote:

> On Thu, 15 May 2008 15:01:58 -0700, Billy <wild...@getthe.net> wrote:
>
> > yesterday I caught Lilly nibbling on the echinacea
>

> My experience has been that dogs love echinacea. They kept it mowed to
> the ground and when they could no longer graze, the bastards dug it up.
> That was the collies that have since passed.
>
> The dane just mashes stuff.
>
> Chalrie

We have ours in a raised bed. 24" high. So far, the dogs have left it
alone and it comes back every year.

Omelet

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May 16, 2008, 11:22:20 AM5/16/08
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In article
<wildbilly-7E589...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
Billy <wild...@getthe.net> wrote:

> I guess you folks be the champions of heat. What was it? One hundred
> days of 100F temps or some god awful thing like that? I ain't gonna
> bore you with my petty complaints. Sure felt fine to point the spray
> nozzle straight up today and pull the trigger, though. Hmmm, hmmm,
> hmmm.
> --
>
> Billy

Maybe in WEST Texas. :-)

I'm in the Hill Country.

It rarely breaks 100 all summer, but we have plenty of days in the 90's.

I did used to run a misting nozzle for my chickens when I had them.
The coop was built totally in the shade under post oaks.

MajorOz

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May 17, 2008, 12:10:58 AM5/17/08
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On May 16, 12:14 am, Billy <wildbi...@getthe.net> wrote:
> In article <gjrp249q6gltd5hu6gfks895dg2suia...@4ax.com>, Charlie wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:04:11 -0700, Billy <wildbi...@getthe.net> wrote:
>
> > >In article
> > ><wildbilly-220E7A.15015815052...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,

Is that the one by Pollan? I just saw him on TV, not 20 min. ago,
giving a talk at UCSB on nutrition. Sounds like a great book.

cheers

oz, shopping at the outside edge of the supermarket

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enigma

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May 17, 2008, 7:18:52 AM5/17/08
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Charlie wrote in
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> Looking at brewing a batch of nettle tea real soon,
> supposedly it greatly enhances the flavor of 'maters.

stinging nettle? i'm about to start pulling mine (before it
flowers/seeds). if my 'maters would like it, i'll make them
some tea.
is there any way to make thistles stay in line? the
goldfinches love them, but i really don't want them all
over...
lee
--
Last night while sitting in my chair
I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.

Bill

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May 17, 2008, 7:51:05 AM5/17/08
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In article <Xns9AA14A688269...@199.125.85.9>,
enigma <eni...@evil.net> wrote:

> Charlie wrote in
> news:ijss24914ib1e01k2...@4ax.com:
>
>
> > Looking at brewing a batch of nettle tea real soon,
> > supposedly it greatly enhances the flavor of 'maters.
>
> stinging nettle? i'm about to start pulling mine (before it
> flowers/seeds). if my 'maters would like it, i'll make them
> some tea.
> is there any way to make thistles stay in line? the
> goldfinches love them, but i really don't want them all
> over...
> lee


<http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=stinging+nettle+r
ecipe&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8>

From above URL

<http://nymag.com/restaurants/recipes/inseason/31788/>

Just a thought.

Bill

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA
Neat place .. http://www.petersvalley.org/
http://www.saltspringseeds.com/

Billy

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May 17, 2008, 10:44:33 AM5/17/08
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In article <Xns9AA14A688269...@199.125.85.9>,
enigma <eni...@evil.net> wrote:

> Charlie wrote in
> news:ijss24914ib1e01k2...@4ax.com:
>
>
> > Looking at brewing a batch of nettle tea real soon,
> > supposedly it greatly enhances the flavor of 'maters.
>
> stinging nettle? i'm about to start pulling mine (before it
> flowers/seeds). if my 'maters would like it, i'll make them
> some tea.
> is there any way to make thistles stay in line? the
> goldfinches love them, but i really don't want them all
> over...
> lee

Take a look at http://www.pfaf.org/database/plants.php?Urtica+dioica
before you start jerkin' them little guys.

Persephone

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May 17, 2008, 10:48:38 AM5/17/08
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I saw him few weeks ago on C-Span Book TV. Kewl!

BTW - allow me to slip in a plug for C-Span Book TV. All
weekend, writers talk about their non-fiction books in hour-long
well-designed programs at book fairs, or with intelligent
interviewers. Great assortment, from L. to R. and in between. I
always print out the program from Book TV's Web site,

http://www.booktv.org/schedule.aspx

then record what I want to view later on DirecTV.
That way I don't have to spent a beautiful day indoors,
but can go out into the garden and kill myself weeding
and planting and watering and pruning and transplanting
and...and... YOU know!

Also embarked on a project to replace the lattice-work
surrounding the back porch (porch to ground) which has
been ripped away by various gardeners and repair people.
This involves measuring -- not my strong suit -- building
frames, and nailing/screwing in left-over lathes from a
1973 bathroom remodel, which I stashed up in the beams
of the garage. Waste not, want not!

Persephone

enigma

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May 17, 2008, 3:51:53 PM5/17/08
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Billy <wild...@getthe.net> wrote in
news:wildbilly-7ED58...@c-61-68-245-199.per.conne
ct.net.au:

> Take a look at
> http://www.pfaf.org/database/plants.php?Urtica+dioica
> before you start jerkin' them little guys.

oh, i know, but i have too many in just the wrong places. i
may attempt some transplants... i wonder if they'd mind being
bog plants...

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