Only time will tell.
I'd plan on replacing them, and keep them away from the property line
this time. :-(
--
--
Peace! Om
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson
> The neighbor sprayed the fence row a few days later with Round-Up
>and now our tomatoe's new growth is all distorted from the drift.
Ask your neighbor to replace the plants.
Roundup is quite short-lived, so if the plants survive at all they may well
recover.
Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
I don't want to get on their bad side over a few dollars. They're trying to
clean up a messy weed strewn yard left by the old owners of their property.
The plants still look healthy and are a nice green color. Just the newest
growth is deformed and curled. We're sick over this.
Thank you for replying. I wish I had somewhere else to move the garden but
no other sunny spots exist. On the other side of us the owners spray their
gravel driveway to keep it clean looking. We've gotten the drift from them a
few times, but not on our tomatoes. Tomatoes must be very sensitive as the
peppers and okra are unaffected.
> "Omelet" <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ompomelet-34F6A...@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <fvjgt3$5lv$1...@news.datemas.de>,
> > "Katey Didd" <spam...@spamless.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I set my tomatoes out a little over a week ago. Some already had flower
> >> clusters. The neighbor sprayed the fence row a few days later with
> >> Round-Up
> >> and now our tomatoe's new growth is all distorted from the drift. Will
> >> they
> >> recover and produce fruit or will they remained deformed and not bear?
> >> Please, does anyone know? Should I replace them or will they recover?
> >
> > Only time will tell.
> >
> > I'd plan on replacing them, and keep them away from the property line
> > this time. :-(
>
> Thank you for replying. I wish I had somewhere else to move the garden but
> no other sunny spots exist. On the other side of us the owners spray their
> gravel driveway to keep it clean looking. We've gotten the drift from them a
> few times, but not on our tomatoes. Tomatoes must be very sensitive as the
> peppers and okra are unaffected.
Time to put up a barrier? :-)
Don't just sit there and stew. Ask your neighbors to be careful
with their spraying, because you have put in a lot of effort you
don't want it to affect your garden, especially with food prices
spiraling upwards.. If they continue, you'll know what their
attitude about you is. If they ask about their spraying, be sure
to let them know, as matter of factly as you can, about the
correlation between their spraying and the damage to your tomatoes.
When your tomatoes come in, be sure to offer a few to your
neighbors;-)
http://100777.com/node/1687
and
www.westernmassafsc.org/colombia/SprayReport.pdf
The last one, at first glance, may not seem relevant but give it
a good perusal.
--
Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net
http://www.counterpunch.org/martin05022008.html
Or maybe there was something else going on, and they wilted from too
much sun, just coincidence re: neighbors. I do know one thing, if I
had even slightly misted my 'mater plants with roundup, they'd be
dead. Karma is a real.. you know.
That's why I'm graduating to a flamer this year. Could be fun if I
don't blow myself up.
Flame on!
I've considered one of those! Where do you get them?
Are they legal everywhere?
I will for sure. I already gave them some flowers that didn't fit in the
flower bed. They're very nice people, really.
I wish! A nice 8' tall fence on both sides would be nice.
They still look good except for the new deformed growth. They wont die I'm
sure. I will pick up more this week at Lowe's. I wish people would read the
labels on products before they use them.
>
> I wish! A nice 8' tall fence on both sides would be nice.
Mine is 7ft. <g> 12" stone and 6' wood.
They deliberately killed my grape vines...
I'm trying to come up with a good fence vine that is roundup resistant.
Some people do not care about their neighbors and are "allergic" to
green!
I'm not saying yours are, I just have one that is.
Maybe the Dept. Of Ag where you live can suggest something resistant to
RoundUp.
> "Omelet" <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ompomelet-8939D...@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <fvpbhn$6v1$1...@news.datemas.de>,
> > "Katey Didd" <spam...@spamless.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I wish! A nice 8' tall fence on both sides would be nice.
> >
> > Mine is 7ft. <g> 12" stone and 6' wood.
> >
> > They deliberately killed my grape vines...
> > I'm trying to come up with a good fence vine that is roundup resistant.
>
> Maybe the Dept. Of Ag where you live can suggest something resistant to
> RoundUp.
Local extension office...
Good idea, thanks!
Om, you get them at the hardware store. They're called a "weed burner."
You use propane to fuel them. They're kind of expensive.
We use them for everything but flame killing weeds here...
Mostly the SO uses ours (we have several) to pre-heat our diesel farm
tractors and bulldozers in the winter, so they'll start. It's not a
trick for the faint of heart, as the oil & grease on heavy equipment
will light on fire readily, so you have to be prepared to put the fire
out.
I have used our weed burner to burn the dried weeds/grass off a garden
plot in the spring. Timing is critical -- it's got to be exactly the day
the grass dries out enough to burn, but before the whole neighborhood is
dried-out, so I don't start a forest fire.
We have a big hemp nettle infestation down on the ranch, but I was told
to not flame kill it. It's in the loafing area where our cows hang out
all winter, so the soil is real heavy in organics, which will catch fire
like crazy, once it dries out.
Jan
> > > That's why I'm graduating to a flamer this year. Could be fun if I
> > > don't blow myself up.
> > >
> > > Flame on!
> >
> > I've considered one of those! Where do you get them?
> > Are they legal everywhere?
>
> Om, you get them at the hardware store. They're called a "weed burner."
> You use propane to fuel them. They're kind of expensive.
Have a look...
http://www.leevalley.com/garden/page.aspx?c=1&p=47306&cat=2,2300,44822
&ap=1
You'll need to fix the url.
> > I've considered one of those! Where do you get them?
> > Are they legal everywhere?
>
> Om, you get them at the hardware store. They're called a "weed burner."
> You use propane to fuel them. They're kind of expensive.
>
> We use them for everything but flame killing weeds here...
>
> Mostly the SO uses ours (we have several) to pre-heat our diesel farm
> tractors and bulldozers in the winter, so they'll start. It's not a
> trick for the faint of heart, as the oil & grease on heavy equipment
> will light on fire readily, so you have to be prepared to put the fire
> out.
>
> I have used our weed burner to burn the dried weeds/grass off a garden
> plot in the spring. Timing is critical -- it's got to be exactly the day
> the grass dries out enough to burn, but before the whole neighborhood is
> dried-out, so I don't start a forest fire.
>
> We have a big hemp nettle infestation down on the ranch, but I was told
> to not flame kill it. It's in the loafing area where our cows hang out
> all winter, so the soil is real heavy in organics, which will catch fire
> like crazy, once it dries out.
>
> Jan
I was mostly interested in burning out green weeds in my gravel
driveway. It's a bitch to weed. <g> I don't like to use roundup because
my herb garden is next to the driveway and I have border plants I don't
want to damage with any drift.
I normally just attack them with the weed eater and mow them all the way
to the ground.
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein
Sometimes doing <this> to a URL will help:
<http://www.leevalley.com/garden/page.aspx?c=1&p=47306&cat=2,2300,44822&a
p=1>
Thanks! :-)
Does it work on your newsreader?
It doesn't on mine.
Mine has a "fix url" option which does the trick.
when you see text on the next line in an email where a link has been
placed, you need to copy and paste both parts or ever how many lines,
starting with the 1st.
Works every time.
Tom J
Works with Outlook Express also, but it's less key stroke to just copy
and paste.
Tom J
> In article <ompomelet-B03A0...@news.giganews.com>,
> ompo...@gmail.com says...
> > In article <MPG.228eca533...@news.execulink.com>,
> > phorbin <phor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <snowshoe-A58A42...@prawn.nwc.acsalaska.net>,
> > > snow...@xyz.net says...
> > >
> > > > > > That's why I'm graduating to a flamer this year. Could be fun if I
> > > > > > don't blow myself up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Flame on!
> > > > >
> > > > > I've considered one of those! Where do you get them?
> > > > > Are they legal everywhere?
> > > >
> > > > Om, you get them at the hardware store. They're called a "weed burner."
> > > > You use propane to fuel them. They're kind of expensive.
> > >
> > > Have a look...
> > >
> > > http://www.leevalley.com/garden/page.aspx?c=1&p=47306&cat=2,2300,44822
> > > &ap=1
> > >
> > > You'll need to fix the url.
> >
> > Sometimes doing <this> to a URL will help:
> >
> > <http://www.leevalley.com/garden/page.aspx?c=1&p=47306&cat=2,2300,44822&a
> > p=1>
>
> Does it work on your newsreader?
Only if I <> it, but even then, I have to copy/paste into Firefox from
MT newswatcher. I can't just click on it.
The other way, I have to paste it into a textfile, fix it, then
copy/paste. ;-)
>
> It doesn't on mine.
>
> Mine has a "fix url" option which does the trick.
Mine does not. It's a two step process, but your link was worth the
effort. :-)
I must be missing something. I copy from my newsreader and paste into
Firefox. The link worked fine for me.
--
Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related
Thanks for the suggestion.
My newsreader (an old one but I keep it because it doesn't do some of
the things new newsreaders do and _does_ have an extensive filter set)
_has_ a "Fix Url" function which sorts it all out.
What the newsreader doesn't do, is automagically fix urls or treat urls
that are enclosed in < > as a complete entity..
> In article <7badnS_dwt8MebjV...@earthlink.com>,
> "Tom J" <tom...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Charlie wrote:
> > > On Sat, 10 May 2008 12:27:36 -0400, "Tom J" <tom...@earthlink.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> when you see text on the next line in an email where a link has
> > >> been
> > >> placed, you need to copy and paste both parts or ever how many
> > >> lines,
> > >> starting with the 1st.
> > >>
> > >> Works every time.
> > >>
> > >> Tom J
> > >>
> > >
> > > Something that works for me, using Agent, is to open a reply window
> > > and simply backspace the wrapped part of the url back into place
> > > then
> > > click it. Don't send the reply, of course. ;-)
> > >
> > > Don't know how this would work on other readers.
> >
> > Works with Outlook Express also, but it's less key stroke to just copy
> > and paste.
> >
> > Tom J
>
> I must be missing something. I copy from my newsreader and paste into
> Firefox. The link worked fine for me.
I ended up with a space in it using MT newswatcher.
But, I drive a MAC. ;-)
It was not hard to fix.
Thats amusing. :-) Mine does just the opposite!
Gotta love computers!
> On Sat, 10 May 2008 15:14:11 -0500, Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >"Human nature seems to be to control other people
> >until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein
>
> Hey, I've that one in my quotes file also! I like it.
>
> Had the season's first radish and bread and butter sammy!!!
>
> French Breakfast Raddies.
>
> I put the tops on it also and it was......Yummo! ;-)
>
> This is the first year I have ever eaten tops. I need to thin them and
> am going to follow your suggestion of litely steaming them, tops and
> bottoms.
Radish tops can also be used in salads, as I found out last year when
about all there was to my radishes was tops.
It worked for me. I get the same page with or without the ending "&ap=1"
stonerfish
> On Sat, 10 May 2008 15:14:11 -0500, Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >"Human nature seems to be to control other people
> >until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein
>
> Hey, I've that one in my quotes file also! I like it.
He posts on tx.guns. He's a TABC academy instructor in my area. :-)
One of the smartest and most savvy cops I've ever known.
I can't recall the thread he said that in, (probably the one where I was
considering cetaceans as sentient) but it IS a great statement. <g>
>
> Had the season's first radish and bread and butter sammy!!!
>
> French Breakfast Raddies.
>
> I put the tops on it also and it was......Yummo! ;-)
>
> This is the first year I have ever eaten tops. I need to thin them and
> am going to follow your suggestion of litely steaming them, tops and
> bottoms.
I generally eat radishes as a cooked veggie. I always rinse and use the
greens. ;-d
> On Sun, 11 May 2008 01:06:42 -0500, Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <8p0c24pc04pllp46v...@4ax.com>, Charlie wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 10 May 2008 15:14:11 -0500, Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Human nature seems to be to control other people
> >> >until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein
> >>
> >> Hey, I've that one in my quotes file also! I like it.
> >
> >He posts on tx.guns. He's a TABC academy instructor in my area. :-)
> >One of the smartest and most savvy cops I've ever known.
> >
> >I can't recall the thread he said that in, (probably the one where I was
> >considering cetaceans as sentient) but it IS a great statement. <g>
>
> ???? I wonder where in the hell I got that quote??? I don't hang out
> there and I thought I usually got deadpersons quotes! ;-) Maybe from
> survivalacres.......who knows.......my brain is like a sieve.
I've used it as a -sig before. I tend to rotate them.
He gave me permission to use it as such.
I'm sure he'd feel honored that you kept it. <g>
> In article <8p0c24pc04pllp46v...@4ax.com>, Charlie wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 10 May 2008 15:14:11 -0500, Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >"Human nature seems to be to control other people
> > >until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein
> >
> > Hey, I've that one in my quotes file also! I like it.
>
> He posts on tx.guns. He's a TABC academy instructor in my area. :-)
> One of the smartest and most savvy cops I've ever known.
>
> I can't recall the thread he said that in, (probably the one where I was
> considering cetaceans as sentient) but it IS a great statement. <g>
"Considering"? They probably think less of us.
> >
> > Had the season's first radish and bread and butter sammy!!!
> >
> > French Breakfast Raddies.
> >
> > I put the tops on it also and it was......Yummo! ;-)
> >
> > This is the first year I have ever eaten tops. I need to thin them and
> > am going to follow your suggestion of litely steaming them, tops and
> > bottoms.
>
> I generally eat radishes as a cooked veggie. I always rinse and use the
> greens. ;-d
--
Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related
> All this talk of young radishes & greens is all well & good, but be sure to
> leave enough for the best part to stir-fry, the seed pods!
> Steve
Really??? I've never tried that. Gods knows those plants make a lot of
pods. :-)
What stage do you gather them at?
--
Peace! Om
> In article <ompomelet-D063A...@news.giganews.com>,
> Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <8p0c24pc04pllp46v...@4ax.com>, Charlie wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 10 May 2008 15:14:11 -0500, Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >"Human nature seems to be to control other people
> > > >until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein
> > >
> > > Hey, I've that one in my quotes file also! I like it.
> >
> > He posts on tx.guns. He's a TABC academy instructor in my area. :-)
> > One of the smartest and most savvy cops I've ever known.
> >
> > I can't recall the thread he said that in, (probably the one where I was
> > considering cetaceans as sentient) but it IS a great statement. <g>
>
> "Considering"? They probably think less of us.
Or are just tolerant. ;-)
--
Peace! Om
> On Sun, 11 May 2008 10:51:11 -0500, "Steve Peek" <sp...@ioa.com> wrote:
>
> >All this talk of young radishes & greens is all well & good, but be sure to
> >leave enough for the best part to stir-fry, the seed pods!
> >Steve
>
> Hmmm...this is new to me. Sounds good...and spicy? I assume you pick
> the pods when the seeds are still very immature?
>
> Yep...the humble radish has definitely been taken to higer levels of
> culinary delight!
There are some varieties of radish grown specifically for their pods.
I use a tank sprayer filled with vinegar to spray weeds. It kills
them in about two days. Spray when there is no rain expected for a
few days. Cheap, effective, and biodegradeable.
> I use a tank sprayer filled with vinegar to spray weeds. It kills
> them in about two days. Spray when there is no rain expected for a
> few days. Cheap, effective, and biodegradeable.
Anything special about the vinegar?
It's cheaper than sulphuric;o)
They've come through for me a few times. ;-)
> --
> --
>
> Peace! Om
>
> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
> -- Jack Nicholson
> "Omelet" <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ompomelet-2A7DD...@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <g009e6$ng9$1...@news.datemas.de>,
> > "Katey Didd" <spam...@spamless.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Omelet" <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:ompomelet-8939D...@news.giganews.com...
> >> > In article <fvpbhn$6v1$1...@news.datemas.de>,
> >> > "Katey Didd" <spam...@spamless.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I wish! A nice 8' tall fence on both sides would be nice.
> >> >
> >> > Mine is 7ft. <g> 12" stone and 6' wood.
> >> >
> >> > They deliberately killed my grape vines...
> >> > I'm trying to come up with a good fence vine that is roundup resistant.
> >>
> >> Maybe the Dept. Of Ag where you live can suggest something resistant to
> >> RoundUp.
> >
> > Local extension office...
> >
> > Good idea, thanks!
>
> They've come through for me a few times. ;-)
They seem to be delighted to help. They've even mailed me information on
specific plantings when I wanted to do more landscaping with local
plants to conserve on water.
I've put in a few Lantana for a start. I really like their blooms and
leaves.
An old man that lived next door to another neighbor sprayed a shrub on the yard
line that he didn't like. A tree sprayer noticed the damage and asked the
neighbor what happened to the shrub. After being told, he reported it to the
state EPA, who sent someone out to have a stern talk to the old man.
Not legal in Seattle.
I'm afraid your tomatoes are doomed. Glyphosate (Roundup) Is a
relatively slow acting systemic herbicide. Even if by some miracle they
do survive I doubt they will thrive, even after a sniff of the stuff.
Replant now is my advice.
Pete
50 years an arable farmer
--
FunkyM8