Bonus features on Sega Genesis Collection?
Grestang
PS2 and X-Box. Anybody pick it up? I'm curious as to what the bonus
unlockable games are.
BelPowerslave
> PS2 and X-Box. Anybody pick it up? I'm curious as to what the bonus
> unlockable games are.
Sweet Jesus, I'd like to hope it consisted of not fucked up ports of
every game on the collection...but this *is* Sega we're talking about so
I'm also guessing not...
Bel
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dos-man 64
I don't understand why they are wasting our time with ports of ports.
Why not port the altered beast the real game over to the ps2 instead of
porting over the genesis port?
On the positive side, Ristar was a good choice. Golden axe 3 is on
there. It didn't receive a whole lot of praise, but I'd still like to
give it a try anyway.
dos-man
BelPowerslave
> Why not port the altered beast the real game over to the ps2 instead of
> porting over the genesis port?
I asked the same question when fucking Tecmo decided to port the
*SATURN* version of DOA1 to the Xbox DOA Ult. rather than the original
Model 2 arcade version. I chalk it up to laziness. It's easier to just
sit back, code some half-assed version of Gens for the PS2, then just
pop rom dumps into it, rather than recode the Genesis game to make it
run natively, or even {gasp}try that for the arcade version. It's just
sad...
> On the positive side, Ristar was a good choice. Golden axe 3 is on
> there. It didn't receive a whole lot of praise, but I'd still like to
> give it a try anyway.
GA3 didn't get a lot of praise because it was never released here in
the US, and back in the day it seemed like *noone* in the US imported
MD titles, so we all just had to listen to biased, jerkoff rags like
EGM tell us stuff like "the game was so bad that Sega actually refused
to bring it to America". Trust me, play it, it's quite good.
Bel
Grestang
"BelPowerslave" <b...@whipassgaming.com> wrote in message
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>> I don't understand why they are wasting our time with ports of ports.
>> Why not port the altered beast the real game over to the ps2 instead of
>> porting over the genesis port?
>
> *SATURN* version of DOA1 to the Xbox DOA Ult. rather than the original
> Model 2 arcade version. I chalk it up to laziness. It's easier to just
> sit back, code some half-assed version of Gens for the PS2, then just
> pop rom dumps into it, rather than recode the Genesis game to make it
> run natively, or even {gasp}try that for the arcade version. It's just
> sad...
You ain't kidding. I never thought that when Sega went software-only, this
is the kind of crap we'd be seeing. I figured they'd re-focus their energy
into developing new games, instead of Genesis compliation discs.
If Sega wants to try a compliation disc, how about one with Phantasy Star 1,
arcade Shadow Dancer, Golden Axe:Return of Death Adder, and Daytona 2. I'd
buy that in a heart beat. I'm actually quite surprised they haven't
translated the rest of Shining Force 3 and brought that over. I also think
a DS version of Dragon Force could be pretty sweet, but I'm just the
consumer....
>> On the positive side, Ristar was a good choice. Golden axe 3 is on
>> there. It didn't receive a whole lot of praise, but I'd still like to
>> give it a try anyway.
>
> GA3 didn't get a lot of praise because it was never released here in
> the US, and back in the day it seemed like *noone* in the US imported
> MD titles, so we all just had to listen to biased, jerkoff rags like
> EGM tell us stuff like "the game was so bad that Sega actually refused
> to bring it to America". Trust me, play it, it's quite good.
I played the rom about 8 or 9 years ago. I thought it was alright. Why do
you think Sega didn't bring it out here? It seems like it would have done
quite well since Golden Axe was a bit more popular then than now.
BelPowerslave
> > *SATURN* version of DOA1 to the Xbox DOA Ult. rather than the original
> > Model 2 arcade version. I chalk it up to laziness. It's easier to just
> > sit back, code some half-assed version of Gens for the PS2, then just
> > pop rom dumps into it, rather than recode the Genesis game to make it
> > run natively, or even {gasp}try that for the arcade version. It's just
> > sad...
>
> You ain't kidding. I never thought that when Sega went software-only, this
> is the kind of crap we'd be seeing. I figured they'd re-focus their energy
> into developing new games, instead of Genesis compliation discs.
They've been sucking non-stop since the DC died. It's just about as sad
as it is embarrassing(for them). Every time I hear a piece of news, or
announcement from them I just shake my head because they consistently
seem to fuck anything they're associated with.
> If Sega wants to try a compliation disc, how about one with Phantasy Star 1,
> arcade Shadow Dancer, Golden Axe:Return of Death Adder, and Daytona 2. I'd
> buy that in a heart beat.
Everyone would...and this is why they won't do it. Or, and better yet,
they'll do it...but it'll be a PS2 Japanese import only(because like
most Japanese developers, they hate the US and Europe more than the
Xbox{and that's saying something}).
> I'm actually quite surprised they haven't
> translated the rest of Shining Force 3 and brought that over. I also think
> a DS version of Dragon Force could be pretty sweet, but I'm just the
> consumer....
The possibilities of what Sega could re-release are endless. There are
literally thousands of games they could redo, port, convert or
whatever, to other systems at minimal cost and would almost certainly
yield a profit...but they simply won't do it. Fuck, they could even go
back and start reprinting discs for Panzer Dragoon Saga, sell them
directly off the SOA website for $80 a pop and they'd *FLY* off the
shelves, Saturn owners(including myself) would loose their fucking
minds.
> > GA3 didn't get a lot of praise because it was never released here in
> > the US, and back in the day it seemed like *noone* in the US imported
> > MD titles, so we all just had to listen to biased, jerkoff rags like
> > EGM tell us stuff like "the game was so bad that Sega actually refused
> > to bring it to America". Trust me, play it, it's quite good.
>
> I played the rom about 8 or 9 years ago. I thought it was alright. Why do
> you think Sega didn't bring it out here? It seems like it would have done
> quite well since Golden Axe was a bit more popular then than now.
Well, what I've always figured was that because the game, for the most
part, looks pretty plain(graphically) in most areas Sega couldn't
afford to release a title that, though it played great, didn't look so
hot in comparison to whatever highly colored bullshit the SNES had
going at the time. You've got to remember that at this point the SNES
was out, so the war had shifted from "great gameplay" to "great
graphics"...
Bel
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Relic
> It has PSIV, so I am happy, HAPPY! *SHAKES GAME*
>
I just picked this up earlier today...brought
a few old games in with the intention of putting a
pre-order for the disc, and I had my days crossed;
EB just got it in today, so I have been playing it
for a little while; Sonic, Ristar and Sword of
Vermillion being tried out, as well as Virtua
Fighter 2. All seemed to play identically to their
cartridge brethern (Sonic even had the slowdown
that the cart had...^_-). Sonic Chaos Zone completion
got me the arcade Zaxxon, and trying out VF2 got me
a VF5 Movie (very nice)...Lots of extras on this disc,
tho' I would have liked to see the arcade Space
Harrier. And after awhile of playing Sonic 2,
I'd actually forgot I was playing the PS2 and not
my Genny (the SF Anniversary controller came
in handy here). And SoV was my first RPG on the
Genny, so it holds a special place in my heart...
dos-man 64
Grestang wrote:
> "BelPowerslave" <b...@whipassgaming.com> wrote in message
> news:1163015503.2...@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >> I don't understand why they are wasting our time with ports of ports.
> >> Why not port the altered beast the real game over to the ps2 instead of
> >> porting over the genesis port?
> >
> > I asked the same question when ucking Tecmo decided to port the
> > *SATURN* version of DOA1 to the Xbox DOA Ult. rather than the original
> > Model 2 arcade version. I chalk it up to laziness. It's easier to just
> > sit back, code some half-assed version of Gens for the PS2, then just
> > pop rom dumps into it, rather than recode the Genesis game to make it
> > run natively, or even {gasp}try that for the arcade version. It's just
> > sad...
>
> You ain't kidding. I never thought that when Sega went software-only, this
> is the kind of crap we'd be seeing. I figured they'd re-focus their energy
> into developing new games, instead of Genesis compliation discs.
>
> If Sega wants to try a compliation disc, how about one with Phantasy Star 1,
> arcade Shadow Dancer, Golden Axe:Return of Death Adder, and Daytona 2. I'd
> buy that in a heart beat. I'm actually quite surprised they haven't
> translated the rest of Shining Force 3 and brought that over. I also think
> a DS version of Dragon Force could be pretty sweet, but I'm just the
> consumer....
I picked up a dreamcast smash pack a few months back, and I ended up
getting rid of it in a hurry. Man, the dreamcast really sucked. It
completely butchered almost all of the games on the disc. I couldn't
believe how horrible Columns sounded. And Altered Beast (again, the
genesis port and not the real deal) had missing sound effects.
Be cool if they would release real genesis controllers for use on the
PS2. I think trying to play ga2 on a ps2 handheld controller would be
laughable. Fortunately, I have very good arcade-style controllers for
the PS2.
dos-man
BelPowerslave
> getting rid of it in a hurry. Man, the dreamcast really sucked.
Um, correction: The emulation software they used *really sucked*. Check
out other Genesis emus and you'll not hear the crappy audio...
> It
> completely butchered almost all of the games on the disc. I couldn't
> believe how horrible Columns sounded. And Altered Beast (again, the
> genesis port and not the real deal) had missing sound effects.
The Smash Pack was a disgrace, everyone agrees on this.
> Be cool if they would release real genesis controllers for use on the
> PS2. I think trying to play ga2 on a ps2 handheld controller would be
> laughable. Fortunately, I have very good arcade-style controllers for
> the PS2.
Well, like Relic mentioned, you could pick up one of those SF
controllers, or even the MK controllers that look just like a Saturn
pad...which was based off the original Genesis 6 button controller.
Scott H
>> I picked up a dreamcast smash pack a few months back, and I ended up
>> getting rid of it in a hurry. Man, the dreamcast really sucked.
>
> Um, correction: The emulation software they used *really sucked*. Check
> out other Genesis emus and you'll not hear the crappy audio...
They could have used WinCE and ported KGen or Gens to much better
effect, they just didn't even try. The truly sick thing is how many
people I've bumped into since its release who thought it was great
(always Nintendo fans who never owned a Genesis). I always ask them
whether they noticed that sound was only coming out of one speaker, and
they'd just stare at me blankly. Ah the flaws in the theory of SNES
fans being audiophiles....
>> It
>> completely butchered almost all of the games on the disc. I couldn't
>> believe how horrible Columns sounded. And Altered Beast (again, the
>> genesis port and not the real deal) had missing sound effects.
>
> The Smash Pack was a disgrace, everyone agrees on this.
All of the Smash Packs were. The PC one with Revenge of Shinobi on it
even managed to lose musical tracks and caused the sound effects to be
lowered to NES quality!
>> Be cool if they would release real genesis controllers for use on the
>> PS2. I think trying to play ga2 on a ps2 handheld controller would be
>> laughable. Fortunately, I have very good arcade-style controllers for
>> the PS2.
>
> Well, like Relic mentioned, you could pick up one of those SF
> controllers, or even the MK controllers that look just like a Saturn
> pad...which was based off the original Genesis 6 button controller.
I still have yet to see one of these for less than $40, and I'll be
damned if I pay that much for a game controller. It's a good thing I
never traded my Genesis or my games, you know, for that mighty $1 each I
would have gotten for them. ;)
--
Scott
BelPowerslave
> > out other Genesis emus and you'll not hear the crappy audio...
>
> They could have used WinCE and ported KGen or Gens to much better
> effect, they just didn't even try.
Agreed. It's like they took an early, early, early beta of whatever
Genesis emu first came out(ever) and then just sort of went from there.
Embarrassingly bad.
> > The Smash Pack was a disgrace, everyone agrees on this.
>
> All of the Smash Packs were. The PC one with Revenge of Shinobi on it
> even managed to lose musical tracks and caused the sound effects to be
> lowered to NES quality!
I'll bet. I've never picked up any of them, nor the Konami "arcade"
pack(with NES Contra, Castlevania, etc), the Taito one, or any of those
on the PC. Just seems fucking insane that they are trying to charge
people to play these games that you can download for free, and run on
better emulators than they are using.
> > Well, like Relic mentioned, you could pick up one of those SF
> > controllers, or even the MK controllers that look just like a Saturn
> > pad...which was based off the original Genesis 6 button controller.
>
> I still have yet to see one of these for less than $40, and I'll be
> damned if I pay that much for a game controller.
Really? Man, they are not more than $10 around here. Let me know if you
ever want one, for either platform...I can pick it up for you.
> It's a good thing I
> never traded my Genesis or my games, you know, for that mighty $1 each I
> would have gotten for them. ;)
Yeah, I just don't think I could ever bring myself to sell off or even
trade alot of my Genesis games(or Sega CD, or 32X), but I used to do it
all the time back in the day. So many idiotic mistakes, so many games
lost...and then regained loose, etc. :(
Bel
Relic
> BelPowerslave wrote:
>>
>> Well, like Relic mentioned, you could pick up one of those SF
>> controllers, or even the MK controllers that look just like a Saturn
>> pad...which was based off the original Genesis 6 button controller.
>
> I still have yet to see one of these for less than $40, and I'll be
> damned if I pay that much for a game controller. It's a good thing I
> never traded my Genesis or my games, you know, for that mighty $1 each I
> would have gotten for them. ;)
>
Yoiks! I got one for the XBox at a Gamestop new for 9.99, and later
the PS2 version I am using with the Genny Collection I got at
Game Crazy for free (Actually, they were in the middle of re-upping
my member card, and to "sweeten" the deal, they gave it to me
(I was going to buy it for the 9.99 they had on the tag), I suspect,
because it wasn't showing up on their computer possibly meaning
they forgot to inventory it the week before ^_^). It isn't the greatest
6-button controller in the world (the layout of the buttons, especially
the start/select buttons, are built around that stupid lenticular
image in the center, and the start/select buttons are way too easy
to accidentally hit when you are into a good Capcom fighter), but
it's perfect for the Genny collection (mind you, I can't think
of many games on the disc that will require more than two or three
buttons, but, eh).
Scott H
I just noticed that the OP mentioned an Xbox version of this.
That can't be right, he's referring to the PSP version right? For $9.99
though, I could really go for a lot of games I have otherwise passed up
because of the inadequacies of the Dual Shock 2. For one who has sworn
off game related purchases until the new year, can you recommend this
controller?
--
Scott
Grestang
"Scott H" <weapo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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One of the video chains around here was selling them for 9 bucks. I think
it was Family Video. I got the SF2 10th anniversary pad with Akuma on it.
Plays quite nicely with Capcom Collection.
Relic
To my knowledge, there is no XBox version; however, I have heard that
the PSP version you mention will be out. As for the controller itself,
as I said before, it is excellent for the Genny games; but for a
fighting controller, it isn't that great, but much better for six
button fighting games than the standard PS2 controller. Of course,
I had much the same gripe with the Dreamcast standard controller.
(I use an adapter and the version 2 Saturn controller to solve that
dilemma tho'). Very handy with Street Fighter Alpha Anthology.
The only real gripe I have with the controller is that it's thicker
than the Saturn pad I mentioned (not much of a problem for me)
and the location of the start/select buttons are just over the
top 3 buttons, a bit more of a problem when in a fast game.
I wouldn't pay more than 9.99 for it, but at that price point,
IMO it's worth it.
dos-man 64
>
> > Well, like Relic mentioned, you could pick up one of those SF
> > controllers, or even the MK controllers that look just like a Saturn
> > pad...which was based off the original Genesis 6 button controller.
>
> I still have yet to see one of these for less than $40, and I'll be
> damned if I pay that much for a game controller.
> Scott
>
> http://www.gamepilgrimage.com
I paid $300+ dollars for my slickstik solitairre (with tornado
spinner.) :)
No PS2 adapter has been made for it, It won't help me here.
dos-man
bluecrabfive
> PS2 and X-Box. Anybody pick it up? I'm curious as to what the bonus
> unlockable games are.
AFAIK, this game is PS2 only. Capcom Collection Volume 2 comes out in
a few days and will be on both PS2 and XBox if you need a retro fix on
your XB.