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Reasons why I'll never buy an X-Box or any Sega games again.

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tec...@bellatlantic.net

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Oct 12, 2001, 11:04:50 PM10/12/01
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Is it me or does Sega like giving Americans "the dirty end of the stick"
?

Let's see -

1. 32x
2. Saturn Third Party support.
3. Sega's handling of Grandia and Working Designs
4. The screwjob involving Shining Force 3
5 Japan and Europe only getting Dreamcast version of Shenmue 2. US gets
screwed.
6. Sega expecting Dreamcast owners to shell out $300 to $400 to play
Shenmue 2.

Now I know how Brett Hart feels everytime he hears the name Vince
McMahon (WWF).

XBox - Microsoft - Gaming ?!

Except for Age of Empires and Starlancer - I can't think of anything
else related to gaming that Microsoft has ever delivered on.

Hell . . . I've been waiting for Freelancer from Digital Anvil/Microsoft
for the longest time - it was supposed to be out summer of 2001 and it's
the month of October.

I'm an IT specialist and the news from Microsoft concerning XP and their
latest licensing scheme is the stuff of corporate nightmares.
I'm wondering if Osama bin Laden has some of Bill Gates' shares, because
the effects of the latest MS licensing is a bomb.

Xbox ?!
The stupid thing uses PC parts, comes with an 8Gb hard drive, and uses
core Win2K kernal - I already have a PC that does a lot more.
And the thing is going to cost $100 more than the other game consoles,
which do the same amount of work and have the same or better games.

Where's the math in that? Especially in the face of a recession.

How freak'in close to reality do these games have to be?
Anyone see screenshots for RE on GameCube, by Nintendo - it's incredibly
spooky and the damn thing is going to be $150 when it comes out.

As to DVD-movie playability ?
With the PS2, it comes for free - the XBox, you have to pay extra for
software to do that. What's up with that?!

A hard drive? Probably for that dumb-ass virtual disk swapping shit
they've been using with every version of Windows - now in a game
machine?!
Is that stupid shit or what!
The reason I play my games on consoles, instead of my PC, is to avoid
that whacked out virtual swap crap that happens when the cache has
fragmented or Windows did not clean up after itself; to avoid PC
maintainance, when I should be playing a game; and the blue screen of
Death.

I've never been impressed with the array of MS hardware (except the
mouses - but how can you fuck up a mouse?), like the Sidewinder brand
joysticks - they're very responsive but stiff, unyielding, and the
button layouts just suck; I already broke a couple just playing Wing
Commander on it.

Back to Sega . . .

I have to admit - I love VF3 and Shenmue (which was just gorgeous) but
their business practices put me in the cold.
I waited for a year for Shenmue 2 - bought two more VMU units, so I
would not lose my Shenmue data by accident - and this is the thanks I
get for investing in the Dreamcast, its peripherals, and games.

What makes it disheartening is the way that Sega put it - "Shenmue is
still out for Dreamcast, except only in Europe and Japan" - it doesn't
matter that the country that has given Sega more than 60% of its income
gets screwed.

That the country that bought more Dreamcast units than either Europe or
Japan does not get the game it deserves on the console it helped the
most. - That is really fucked up.
And worse, it feels like Shenmue just became the victim of Bill Gates'
monopoly.

I'm getting the UK version of Shenmue2 for Dreamcast, then afterwards,
I'm not buying anything Sega anymore, not even to continue Shenmue.
I know it sounds ridiculous but I had a lot of fun with the Dreamcast
not to get Shenmue 2 and it's just my way of saying goodbye to a good
system that seem to never get its chance to shine.

Sega's just like a person who calls you their friend and has the best
toys around the block yet mistreats you every step you go with them -
it's time to end that friendship.

So Long Sega,

Ned


PS - Yeah, it sounds pesonal and stupid, but if you put your cash and
faith in a company that you felt brought out the best games out there -
you would too.


diritol

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Oct 12, 2001, 11:29:18 PM10/12/01
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tec...@bellatlantic.net wrote:
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> Is it me or does Sega like giving Americans "the dirty end of the stick"

Seems like it.

> Now I know how Brett Hart feels everytime he hears the name Vince
> McMahon (WWF).

I think people would respect your opinions more, if you didn't
mention wrestling. Wrestling blows... and I can't imagine an
IT professional who watches it. Wrestling is for grease-monkey
wrench-boys who drink beer and eat pork-rinds... You know, the
people who have a small mind and are entertained by the simple.
No, it's true. Look it up; it's in the Encyclopedia. No offense.

Xphyle

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Oct 12, 2001, 11:34:22 PM10/12/01
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OH, QUIT YOUR BITCHING! Wahhhh, I'm not getting Shenmue 2 in
US....wahhhhh. I was super pissed that Sierra never released Half-Life
for Dreamcast even though it was fuckin DONE! But I got over it.
Besides, you know you will eventually purchase another Sega product of
some sort. I remember swearing off EA for not producing games for the
Dreamcast and "causing" the Dreamcast's premature death. But I caved on
that one!

Xphyle


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Blofeld

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Oct 13, 2001, 10:11:16 AM10/13/01
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 03:04:50 GMT, tec...@bellatlantic.net wrote:

>
>Except for Age of Empires and Starlancer - I can't think of anything
>else related to gaming that Microsoft has ever delivered on.
>

And they didn't even do either of those. Starlancer was developed by
Digital Anvil and Age of Empires was done by Ensemble Studios. Sure
MS now owns both companies, but MS still doesn't do any of their own
work.

Terrence Huey

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Oct 13, 2001, 12:18:57 PM10/13/01
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<tec...@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:3BC7AD0B...@bellatlantic.net...

> Is it me or does Sega like giving Americans "the dirty end of the stick"
> ?
>
> Let's see -
>
> 1. 32x
> 2. Saturn Third Party support.
> 3. Sega's handling of Grandia and Working Designs

Well in retrospect, Bernie pissing off Vic was one of the best things he
ever did (as was the DC launch and getting the US DC to come with a modem).

Working Designs is just crap.

> 4. The screwjob involving Shining Force 3

Hehe, don't remind me of Synbios... "Is dis the end?"
I guess it was...

> 5 Japan and Europe only getting Dreamcast version of Shenmue 2. US gets
> screwed.

Then get one of those... (tho someone said the Euro version was cancelled...
not surprised)

> 6. Sega expecting Dreamcast owners to shell out $300 to $400 to play
> Shenmue 2.

Well, if you don't feel it's worth it, then don't buy it. There's a decent
number of Sega games announced for the XBox so far:

Jet Set Radio Future
Gun Valkyrie
Shen Mue 2
PSO
Sports 2k2 series

So that's developer support from Smilebit, AM2, Sonic Team, and Visual
Concepts. Hitmaker may be in there too for Tennis 2k2. The only missing
piece is Overworks.

-T


John Thorenson

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Oct 13, 2001, 2:40:42 PM10/13/01
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>Well in retrospect, Bernie pissing off Vic was one of the best things he
>ever did (as was the DC launch and getting the US DC to come with a modem).
>

Wow, sounds like three monumental failures in a row to me.

>Working Designs is just crap.

Just like EA, right? Stop being such an idiot just because you can measure the
quality of a company based on the number of games they didn't release on the
Dreamcast.

__

The Phone-a-Friends on "Millionaire" who repeat the question to others with
them are fucking morons. I hope the contestants who waste lifelines on these
pricks go home and rape them for playing a twenty-second "Telephone" game on
their dime.

tec...@bellatlantic.net

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Oct 14, 2001, 1:14:25 AM10/14/01
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Hate to break it to ya - but I do hang out with grease monkeys and
wrench-boys.

I take no offense at it because I'm always smirking about how people who tell
guys like us how small our minds are but when something they need to get fixed
and they need us to do it or their Life can't get back on track - it's amazing
how fast they introduce themselves as "Neil and Bob"..

Believe it or not, I like WWF wrestling because of all the work those guys put
into it.

These "wrestlers" train to make not only their moves look real but to be able
to not too hurt themselves and their "opponents".

The stuff they do - ladder matches, hardcore matches, cage matches, or just
regular matches - this is stuff that can really injure a person or even kill
them.
These guys have to work with each other, put a lot of trust in each other, and
protect each other from getting hurt and still put on a live show, without too
much mistakes.

I give them a lot of respect for that.

They've already came out with it being fake a long time ago - but the
intellectuals keep on saying that it is fake like they never heard the news.

I do a lot of complicated things on my job - to relax with my buddies and
watch pure simple mayhem is a treat.

As to my reference to Brett Hart and the WWF - just like Sega with us - Brett
worked his butt to make the WWF a success, just like we use our hard earned
cash to buy Dreamcast stuff, and still got screwed in real life.

Besides, my views were about Sega - not about wrestling - who gives a shit
about your or my view about wrestling; or who the heck I hang out with; or if
your name is really Neil or Bob. - IT DOESN'T MATTER !!!

For a big serious brain like you - please stick to the issue or just finish
eating "strudel".


Can you smell, . . . what I was just cooking? ; )
-Ned

John Thorenson

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Oct 14, 2001, 5:37:06 AM10/14/01
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>Believe it or not, I like WWF wrestling because of all the work those guys
>put
>into it.

And I see it as a bunch of grown overweight men prancing around in leotards
like retards, performing stunts that should get them killed - helping Darwin
along the way, talking shit that third graders would be embarrassed to say to
each other, and having an audience consisting entirely of six-toed,
banjo-playing, four first-name having, sibling-fucking trailer trash. It's nice
that wrestling fans are so easily found; when evolution requires the inevitable
man-made effort, they'll be the first to die.

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