Newbie question
Every Strangers Eyes
Not played video games since I had a SNES way back.
Looking to buy a new console and have discounted the wii as a kids game
machine.
Basically that leaves me the option of a 360 or a PS3.
So far I am leaning towards the PS3 due to blu ray player, but I would
appreciate feedback from 360 owners as to what the console offers over
the PS3.
Thanks in advance.
Bugman
"Every Strangers Eyes" <m...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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Xbox Live
Andre Matuch
Better library of games, better-looking games, Xbox Live, streaming of
music in-game, rumble support in all games, XBLA titles (PSN has a
fraction of what XBLA has), backward compatibility in all units provided
they have a hard disk, replaceable battery in all wireless controllers
(you can change your battery pack or simply put in two AA batteries if
you want).
RMZ
The Blu-Ray player is the PS3s only advantage, everything else leans
in favor of XBox 360. If 360 cost less it would be a no-brainer, but
as it stands now you just really have to look at the games available
on both systems right now and what's coming....
mbcUK
The Wii is not a kids console
Martin
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Conor
Strangers Eyes says...
experience and the "achievements" awards keep you wanting to play
games. Only pisser is each Xbox Live account you want to play online
with costs you on a per account and not per console basis.
PS3 is quieter than the 360 but the online sux. Regarding games, I
don't think there's any difference in quality.
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skidz
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> In article <MPG.22818b9cf...@news.btinternet.com>, Every
> Strangers Eyes says...
>> Hi
>>
>> Not played video games since I had a SNES way back.
>>
>> Looking to buy a new console and have discounted the wii as a kids game
>> machine.
>>
>> Basically that leaves me the option of a 360 or a PS3.
>>
>> So far I am leaning towards the PS3 due to blu ray player, but I would
>> appreciate feedback from 360 owners as to what the console offers over
>> the PS3.
>>
> I've got all three. Out of them all, the 360 has by far the best online
> experience and the "achievements" awards keep you wanting to play
> games. Only pisser is each Xbox Live account you want to play online
> with costs you on a per account and not per console basis.
>
> PS3 is quieter than the 360 but the online sux. Regarding games, I
> don't think there's any difference in quality.
>
>
>
> --
> Conor
What a saddo........heheheheheh
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Deano
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Better pad IMHO and the better games library. Live is a big plus.
One thing that has recently made me wonder about the PS3 is mandatory
installation of games. Kind of ruins the point of having the larger hard
disk. I suppose if you can eventually cram in a 1TB drive it might not be
so painful.
Chris F
wrote:
yeah, i mean caching data is one thing, but having to install files
for 5-10 minutes before you can even play the thing?
that'd get a bit old after a while, and as you say, unless you swap in
your own hard drive, it'd fill up pretty quickly if you had a few
games that required you to do this.
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Mattinglyfan
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LOL. You are fired. PS3 has streaming of music in-game. The fact that you
said "all units" were backward compatible even thought you had to clarify
that it was necessary to purchase a hard disk shows you are pitiful. Also,
saying that a "replaceable batter" is a greater benefit over rechargeable
out of the box has to be the dumbest fanboy stretch I have ever heard.
Deano
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And to state the obvious, you're INSTALLING software on a console! I'm into
consoles precisely because they are un-PC like when it comes to games. I
don't want to entertain the possibility of troubleshooting installation
errors. Odd way for Sony to go as I thought blu-ray would store all the HD
data, but no it needs a hand from the hard disk....
Mattinglyfan
How old are you two? I have been installing games long before the PS3 but I
guess that is because I am older and went from Atari 2600 and NES to PC
gaming on my Commodore Vic 20. Installing has been an aspect of gaming for
many of us for a long time. Also, you do realize that the mandatory install
has recently shown itself to improve game play? Also, there is no game that
takes 10 minutes to install and GTA took about 5 so uneducated "facts" only
suceeds in showing who actually owns all consoles and who talks out of their
ass based on what they heard or read. Who in the hell do you guys know that
keeps every game they have ever purchased installed on their PC? If people
didn't do it on their PC, why would they do it on a console which takes up
SUBSTANTIALLY less space than a PC install.
Chris F
spare me the patronising tone, please, it's not necessary.
console gaming and PC gaming are seperate beasts and always have been.
yes, i've been installing software on PC for years too, but have i
ever had to on a console? um, no. that was the whole appeal of console
gaming from day one, that you wouldnt have to sit staring at a tv
screen for half an hour while the game loaded from tape into memory.
sure i accept that as a medium, games have become vastly more complex
and require massive amounts of data to be thrown around, but the point
is that if the 360 can run GTA 100% from disc, why does the PS3
require *mandatory* installation for some games, when it is touted as
supposedly the more powerful machine? even more shocking when you
consider that the 360 version outputs at 720p native, whereas the PS3
version upscales a 630p output.
oh sorry, was that educated fact too sensible for you?
for me console gaming is about the immediacy of the experience, i
don't want to have to be sat there on the sofa waiting for a game i
previously uninstalled to reinstall, it'd put me off and chances are
i'd probably play something else instead.
christ almighty, it was only expressing an opinion, no need to jump
off the deep end.
i'm sure mandatory install does improve loading times, etc, and so it
bloody should, but should it even *be* mandatory on a console? that's
the debatable point.
also, if you actually read, i said 5-10 minutes, and nowhere did i
state GTA took 10 minutes, so stressing that point is a bit
superfluous.
but hey what do i know, i don't own a PS3, i must be anti-Sony.
suppose i better sell that PSP before i start foaming at the mouth
about it, eh?
do me a fucking favour.
Tom
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I don't think Chris was bashing and you seem to come down a little hard and
condescending.
There is a bit of a difference here between PCs and consoles, don't you
think? I mean, PCs are going to have vastly greater drive space than a
console anyway, especially today where you can get a 500gig drive for less
than $150. While I, like you, don't really get bothered by the install, and
it does help with loading times (I wish mass effect could pre-load onto the
HDD), having a 40gig drive on the PS3 could fill up fast, and you'll have to
delete games that maybe one would not have finished yet. They then have to
re-install them over and over again which can get old. Chris makes a good
point if many of these games require a pre-install.
BTW, I honestly think it isn't too cool for example to have whole game
install just to play it on a console, namely DMC4 which took over 20
minutes. The only improvement it had over the 360 version was no load time
between going into rooms and other areas, of which in the 360 version took
about 1 second to do. That's a big price to pay just to not have a 1 second
load time going between areas. Now as far a GTAIV, I'd say it is worth it to
install it because of the scope of the game.
If MGS4 has to have some kind of pre-install to play, and considering its
size (it takes up the whole BR-disc), I wouldn't be all too happy about
that.
Zomoniac
> "Andre Matuch" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>> Every Strangers Eyes wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Not played video games since I had a SNES way back.
>>>
>>> Looking to buy a new console and have discounted the wii as a kids game
>>> machine.
>>>
>>> Basically that leaves me the option of a 360 or a PS3.
>>>
>>> So far I am leaning towards the PS3 due to blu ray player, but I would
>>> appreciate feedback from 360 owners as to what the console offers over
>>> the PS3.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>
>> Better library of games, better-looking games, Xbox Live, streaming of
>> music in-game, rumble support in all games, XBLA titles (PSN has a
>> fraction of what XBLA has), backward compatibility in all units provided
>> they have a hard disk, replaceable battery in all wireless controllers
>> (you can change your battery pack or simply put in two AA batteries if you
>> want).
>
> LOL. You are fired. PS3 has streaming of music in-game.
Which games? None of mine do. Does every single game allow custom music
that can be changed to anything else, even to another source, or stopped
and returned to game music, at any point without leaving the game?
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Zomoniac
Comparitive merits:
360:
Bigger and better games library
Games are usually (inexplicably) a fiver cheaper
95% of cross-platform games look slightly better
Some backwards compatibility with around 300 Xbox games
Xbox Live is a big plus
Live Arcade
Better controller, replacable detachable batteries
Rumble
PS3:
Significantly quieter
Blu-Ray player
Much better as a media centre
Online play is free (though not as good)
Proper 1080p support, not a half-arsed add-on
If you have a PSP, does some very cool stuff with Remote Play
Forthcoming PlayTV add-on
Built-in rechargable batteries into controllers
Bluetooth remote control
Upgradable hard-drive
Web browser
Basically both machines have big strong points. 360 is a gamer's dream,
which also does lots of other stuff but most of it is a botched up mess
that isn't worth bothering with. PS3 is a lovely, quiet media player
(although despite this it still has a terrible folder-sorting UI) with
Blu-Ray drive and whatnot.
If you're buying it to play games and not do much else, either by
yourself or with friends, locally or online, get a 360. If you want a
box under the TV that does everything and acts as your shiny all-singing
hub to the world, that you would like to occasionally have a pissed-up
GTA or FIFA session on, get a PS3.
WCZ
> Every Strangers Eyes wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Not played video games since I had a SNES way back.
>>
>> Looking to buy a new console and have discounted the wii as a kids
>> game machine.
>>
>> Basically that leaves me the option of a 360 or a PS3.
>>
>> So far I am leaning towards the PS3 due to blu ray player, but I
>> would appreciate feedback from 360 owners as to what the console
>> offers over the PS3.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>
> Comparitive merits:
>
> 360:
> Bigger and better games library
> Games are usually (inexplicably) a fiver cheaper
> 95% of cross-platform games look slightly better
> Some backwards compatibility with around 300 Xbox games
> Xbox Live is a big plus
> Live Arcade
> Better controller, replacable detachable batteries
> Rumble
Console is a fair chunk cheaper. You forgot that one.
3 year warranty for the most common failure. Some people may not see that
as a benefit but at least you're covered if it happens.
Its not a fingerprint magnet. :-)
>
>
> PS3:
> Significantly quieter
> Blu-Ray player
> Much better as a media centre
> Online play is free (though not as good)
> Proper 1080p support, not a half-arsed add-on
I'd disagree with the half-arsed add-on bit there. The 360 does what the
PS3 does in that it scales to the output resolution. Games can run in 1080p
native if they want to and are graphically simple enough.
> If you have a PSP, does some very cool stuff with Remote Play
> Forthcoming PlayTV add-on
> Built-in rechargable batteries into controllers
> Bluetooth remote control
> Upgradable hard-drive
> Web browser
Id add more reliable into that mix too.
>
> Basically both machines have big strong points. 360 is a gamer's
> dream, which also does lots of other stuff but most of it is a
> botched up mess that isn't worth bothering with. PS3 is a lovely,
> quiet media player (although despite this it still has a terrible
> folder-sorting UI) with Blu-Ray drive and whatnot.
>
> If you're buying it to play games and not do much else, either by
> yourself or with friends, locally or online, get a 360. If you want a
> box under the TV that does everything and acts as your shiny
> all-singing hub to the world, that you would like to occasionally
> have a pissed-up GTA or FIFA session on, get a PS3.
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scoopex
GTA IV extra DLC only available on the xbox 360
lol. :)
Gareth Robert Halfacree
> Which games? None of mine do. Does every single game allow custom music
> that can be changed to anything else, even to another source, or stopped
> and returned to game music, at any point without leaving the game?
Diverging from the topic somewhat, that particular feature of the Xbox
360 is directly responsible for making me think that Dead Rising was broken.
It would appear that playing your own music mutes the in-game music -
obviously, since you wouldn't want both playing at the same time.
Stopping the custom music un-mutes the in-game music, again for obvious
reasons. Pausing the custom music, however, doesn't - the in-game music
remains absent.
For some reason, Dead Rising decided that "in-game music" should also
include "speech during cutscenes", so when I paused my custom playlist
and loaded up Dead Rising I initially thought something was broken - I
could hear all the sound effects, but the cutscenes were silent.
Took me quite a while to spot my mistake, too.
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http://gareth.halfacree.co.uk
scoopex
> mbcUK wrote:
>> RMZ wrote:
>>> On Apr 29, 2:47 pm, Every Strangers Eyes <m...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Not played video games since I had a SNES way back.
>>>>
>>>> Looking to buy a new console and have discounted the wii as a kids
>>>> game machine.
>>>>
>>>> Basically that leaves me the option of a 360 or a PS3.
>>>>
>>>> So far I am leaning towards the PS3 due to blu ray player, but I
>>>> would appreciate feedback from 360 owners as to what the console
>>>> offers over the PS3.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> The Blu-Ray player is the PS3s only advantage, everything else leans
>>> in favor of XBox 360. If 360 cost less it would be a no-brainer, but
>>> as it stands now you just really have to look at the games available
>>> on both systems right now and what's coming....
>> The Wii is not a kids console
>>
>> Martin
>
> yes it is :O))
>
lol. :)
skidz
the idea of a console is so you dont have to install files, just pick and
play...if your a PC gamer then yes install until your hears delight but this
generation? Nah...
skidz
>
>
skidz
hear hear Chris!, The PSP loading times are bloody awful and I own one
too....
skidz
Diablos Rojos
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Wii isn't a kids machine but I'd go for a 360 and then get a Wii later on,
it's a completely different take on Video games.
Zomoniac
But they don't look as good, for some reason. I have both connected to
HDMI at 1080p, and even on the dashboard the PS3 looks significantly
sharper. I'm sure the 360 dash just upscales it. They certainly haven't
increased the resolution of a lot of things like the adverts and gamer
pictures to make up the extra resolution. The only native 1080p game I
have on 360 is VT3, but it doesn't look like it. It looks just like the
rest of my games. It certainly doesn't have the sharpness and clarity of
GT5, which looks like a 1080p game built on a system that was designed
with 1080p in mind.
Gareth Robert Halfacree
> It certainly doesn't have the sharpness and clarity of
> GT5, which looks like a 1080p game built on a system that was designed
> with 1080p in mind.
But on the flip side, I'm extremely irritated that my PS3 - a console
designed, as you say, with 1080p in mind - can play neither of the two
games I own at 1080p. Both will automatically switch the output from
1080p to 720p when they are loaded.
Uncharted and Untold Legends, if you were curious.
The Xbox 360 upscales, but at least it does as its told - when I set it
to 1080p output via HDMI it will /always/ output 1080p, unlike the PS3.
Depresion
"Every Strangers Eyes" <m...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Not played video games since I had a SNES way back.
>
> Looking to buy a new console and have discounted the wii as a kids game
> machine.
You shouldn't discount the Wii it's loads of fun.
> Basically that leaves me the option of a 360 or a PS3.
Owning all 3 I'd say go with the 360, it gets easily 10 times the use of the
PS3 mainly because most cross platform titles are £5 cheaper on the 360 and
online gaming is a lot better on it. The PS3 on the other hand supports my
G25 in GT5 Prologue, though you could pickup PGR4 on the 360 for the same as
GT5P and that's a full game not a weekend long tech demo.
Zomoniac
You can complete PGR4 a damn sight quicker than GT5P.
Chris F
but which one would you have more fun doing?
Zomoniac
PGR4, by some distance.
Chris F
that was my point :)
HtWhls164
"Every Strangers Eyes" <m...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> Not played video games since I had a SNES way back.
>
> Looking to buy a new console and have discounted the wii as a kids game
> machine.
>
>
> appreciate feedback from 360 owners as to what the console offers over
> the PS3.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
trying to find the 80gb model which had MotorStorm packed with it...
Otherwise the 360 w/ a 20gb or higher with HDMI is the better route....(Not
as good as Blu Ray for DVDs but will upscale them decently)
I had to choose between the two systems last Christmas and probably would
have went for the PS3 if not for XBOX Live and 80% backward compatibility
for original XBOX titles (we have a large selection).
However, as far as display for for backwards compatibility games your better
off playing them on the original system anyway..since the new systems are
simply emulating..which inturn produces a lower resolution.
I would suggest, as above, figuring out if you have to have a BluRay player
now..and looking at the games available from both systems...
Every Strangers Eyes
the_pro...@hotmail.com says...
That's summed them both up. Thanks for that.
I think I'll go for an Xbox then as it seems better as a games machine.
Though the PS3 offers free online gaming I don't think I would be using
online games much so it's not that much of a benefit.
Thanks to everyone who replied.
ESE
Depresion
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Define complete. I still have a few offline Achievements for PGR4 but I can't
see me going back to the half dozen tracks in GT5P for a while.
Robert Peffers
Don't you think it a bad idea calling someone dumb when you cannot even
spell, "battery", properly?
Robert Peffers
Not to mention the simple fact that the Xbox360 makes a great media
streaming unit and will connect either wirelessly, or by cable, as a
powerful streamer, Windows Media Centre extender and entertainment hub.