Meaning of NOS?

[Dale Luck]

There is a vendor, advertising overlays as NOS in the subject line, although
he describes them as 'aftermarket NOS' in the description.

I sent him email telling him that I felt his use of the term "NOS" was
incorrect. NOS means New (condition) Original Stock(original manufacturer).
So you can't label something as NOS if it was not made by the original
manufacturer.

He replied that NOS meant New Old Stock, and as long as the items were made
at the same time as the original game, and never used, even if they were
made by a different company, then he could call them NOS.

He can of course call his items New, just not NOS.

Anyway, if I'm mistaken in my interpretation of NOS, please reeducate me, I
get the meaning from car collectors.

Dale

[Jack Rabbit Shipping]

No dale your correct....... NAPA makes auto parts and or has a rebuilding
facility to "remanufacture old cores". they do have alot of parts for ALOT of
makes and models of autos.... but there parts are NOT NOS even though there made
the same year of "said" model.....kgf

[Jeff Kinder]

Hi Dale,

NOS means "New Old Stock", though I do consider this being from the
original manufacturer, as you stated. Otherwise it would be a
reproduction.

One thing I've come across, and I'm sure others have found this out...
is that NOS does not always mean "mint" or "A+" condition. NOS means
that is was never used on a game. For example, one time I received a
set of NOS side decals. Yes, they were NOS, but these babies were
rolled up and set on their side for about 15 years prior. When I got
them, the edges were so chewed up, it wasn't funny. Same thing
happened one time with a marquee.

-jeff

Jeff Kinder
je...@dragons-lair-project.com

http://www.dragons-lair-project.com
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In article <CQ9G5.17$se2.278@client>,

"Dale Luck" <d.l...@ieee.org> wrote:
> There is a vendor, advertising overlays as NOS in the subject line,
although
> he describes them as 'aftermarket NOS' in the description.
>
> I sent him email telling him that I felt his use of the term "NOS" was
> incorrect. NOS means New (condition) Original Stock(original
manufacturer).
> So you can't label something as NOS if it was not made by the original
> manufacturer.
>
> He replied that NOS meant New Old Stock, and as long as the items
were made
> at the same time as the original game, and never used, even if they
were
> made by a different company, then he could call them NOS.
>
> He can of course call his items New, just not NOS.
>
> Anyway, if I'm mistaken in my interpretation of NOS, please reeducate
me, I
> get the meaning from car collectors.
>
> Dale
>
>

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[azsc...@my-deja.com]

I've seen the acronym used both ways. Even in the car industry, they
sometimes say "new old stock". From my understanding, the term "stock"
implies the original manufacturer. Thus, this dealer could call his
parts new (not used) and old (they've been around awhile), but not
stock. The dealer should probably specify it as an aftermarket item
or show a picture so as to not mislead purchasers. --Mike

[the game, man.]

N(ew) O(ld) or O(riginal) S(tock) means exactly what it says, an Unused
Item From Stock...never used. Could be in any condition, but never
installed.

The vendor you question is absolutely correct in his discription. Willis
replacement overlays made 17 years ago *are* genuine Willis Brand NOS items
for that game. Atari, Midway etc, allowed this company to manufacture
replacement parts for their games as long as it was not a *copy*, then it
would be an aftermarket or bootleg copy.

You seemed to perfectly understand what this vendor advertised and he was
perfectly honest in his discription...How else could he advertise a
"genuine-manufactured-advertised-sold Brand New 17-year old (item)"....that
would be an oxymoron...so NOS seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Brett Slack

Dale Luck <d.l...@ieee.org> wrote in message news:CQ9G5.17$se2.278@client...

[Al Warner]

Technically, a Willis Overlay could be New Old Stock and would not be
made by the original maker of the game. I think that anything is NOS if
it:

a) was manufactured at sometime in the past (making it not a repro)
b) Is in new condition

As for car parts, they have rebuilt and remanufactured scenarios, one is
fixed, the other is a like new item with old and new parts manufactured
in the recent past.

-Al-

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[WMAIDEN]

>
>I sent him email telling him that I felt his use of the term "NOS" was
>incorrect. NOS means New (condition) Original Stock(original manufacturer).
>So you can't label something as NOS if it was not made by the original
>manufacturer.
>
>He replied that NOS meant New Old Stock, and as long as the items were made
>at the same time as the original game, and never used, even if they were
>made by a different company, then he could call them NOS.
>
>He can of course call his items New, just not NOS.
>
>Anyway, if I'm mistaken in my interpretation of NOS, please reeducate me, I
>get the meaning from car collectors.
>
>Dale

In our newsgroup and circle of collectors, buyers, sellers....NOS means New Old
Stock...it has been this way for at least 4 or 5 years that I can vouch
for.....you can have NOS anything as long as its in new condition and never
been used....it also doesn't mean its in mint shape as some new people tend to
think.....I have sold NOS Willis overlays for video games as have others...they
may not be the original/correct ones that are supposed to be on the dedicated
game but they are still NOS....NOS is used in our circle as a "condition" not a
representation of "who" made it originally......hope this helps you and any new
collectors in our hobby...

Happy Gaming
Warren "Gorfman" Maiden
Cleveland, Ohio (Elyria)
Check out my website at: Gorfman's Arcade Gameroom
http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/gorfman/index.html

[Dale Luck]

Seems to me his subject line should say NOS Willis Stargate control panel.
A subject line of "NOS Stargate control panel" implies Williams.
As someone stated, there is a visual difference between original Williams
control
panel artwork, and Willis control panel artwork. This is important to most
collectors that I know.
I'm glad to know that Willis was authorized to make replacement control
panels
by Williams. That would imply to me that although the artwork might differ,
the quality, and feel of the control panel would be up to Williams
standards.
Is that a correct inference?
Dale

"Al Warner" <alsa...@home.com> wrote in message
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[Imdudelebowski]

Being a recent new member to the newsgroup, but being around games for 20
years, the NOS is kind of a debate that we should all take seriously and come
to some sort of an agreement on definition.

As a service to ourselves and each other we should come to a conclusive
understanding about what NOS truly means. And a more defined term for"NEW",
"MINT" and the ever elusive "RARE".

Darin Jacobs

[John Robertson]

MINT means never used, looks just like it came from the factory,
nicely wrapped and no flaws. Like coins...

NOS means it sat on a shelf collecting dust for X number of years, but
was never sold or installed, perhaps just tested to make sure it still
works. Perhaps with original wrapping but not used, packaging does not
have to be perfect, it's the lack of use of the item that matters
here.

RARE means I want more money.

John :-#)#

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