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Scott Caldwell

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Aug 23, 2002, 8:29:41 AM8/23/02
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Since my buddy was unable to locate a replacement Galaxian
mini cabinet, he spoke to a wood-working shop about building
a replacement cabinet. After looking things over, doing
this and that, the replacement cabinet has been started
(and I think it will be more solid than the original). This
led to future discussions about whether there would be any
type of demand for these new cabinets? If this shop starts
reproducing some of the mini cabinets, would anyone here
actually buy them? They are thinking around $300, but that
price will likely go down, depending on how the cabinet is
ordered (built or ready to assemble. - shipping costs would
be different too), production #s, etc.

Initially, he would do the Galaxian mini cabinets, which
also works for Pac-Man mini, Space Zap mini, Space
Encounters mini, Rally-X mini and one other mini. They will
paint the wood depending on the game desired by the buyer.

There has also been some discussion on them producing
Williams mini cabinets. All of their minis (classics) used
the same cabinet, and it could be painted to match the
desired game.

Just to be specific, the cabinets would come with no
electronics, wiring, or metal. If those can be prefabbed
by an outside source, it may be possible, but this shop
can't do those, so they won't be included. Also, painted
stencils won't be done either (they may only paint the
cabinet one color or use the wood-grain vinyl stuff).

How many of you would actually buys these? If there is no
demand, then it's not worth wasting anyone's time.

Scott C.

Darin Jacobs

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Aug 23, 2002, 11:49:51 AM8/23/02
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I would think there is a market for these.

Not sure about the Wms cabs, afterall youd still need to find the specific
cps, marquees etc... that I dont think anyone would be willing to repro
until there were many in circulation

darin


Scott Caldwell

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Aug 23, 2002, 12:52:18 PM8/23/02
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Good point, but those parts are out there and could be
reproed.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this? Further
conversation today with the place, and they are also
interested in doing uprights too, but haven't decided
on which yet. Ms. Pac-Man, Galaga, etc. cabs were
mentioned along with DK (DK Jr., etc.) as well. It
seems the owner of this place also grew-up placing
games and likes the idea of getting his "normal"
business into the video game area. What better way
than to make new cabinets for games.

Scott C.

RacerX

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Aug 23, 2002, 3:32:02 PM8/23/02
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Sounds great. I would be interested if the price was reasonable.

Gary P.


Bryan McCraw

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Aug 23, 2002, 4:09:19 PM8/23/02
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Ive also started to reproduce mini cabinets. Iam in the process of make
repos of the Pac-man cabaret and also the Ms. Pac (Wizard of Wor, Tron, New
Rally X, Robby Roto are among the games that used these).

I am also able to get either a original type wood grain or laminate colors.
With the metal parts still needing to be made and decisions on coin door
opening (and types..Midway or top/bottom styles) still being worked out.

Im looking into maybe being able to package these unassembled in a flat box.
This Im still working on.

Right now I have one prototype copy done and the other will be ready for me
This coming week.

Im in South Carolina, and Im also not sure about shipping. But Im sure that
I can find a reasonable shipper for this.


We all know how hard the cabarets are to find and how well they work in
houses too. My use is for MAME cabinets, so I dont modify original classic
cabinets. But I see no reason that you couldnt but a Jamma or dedicated
harness in these cabinets with a 13" monitor and use original marquees.

Please feel free to e-mail me some feedback or post here.

Thanks

Bryan


Bones3010

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Aug 23, 2002, 4:26:57 PM8/23/02
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What about reproducing Atari cabarets?
Did any of the manufacturers have a "standard" cabinet style with cabarets
(like bally/midway with pac man-style cocktails)? I would think that
reproducing one of those "standard" type of cabs would make the most sense
since finding NOS or repro parts to fit them for a specific game would be more
likely (rather than modifying the new cabinet to fit a dedicated-type CPO or
marquee).

I mentioned atari's style because off the top of my head it seemed that their
cabarets essentially looked the same, and fitting a centipede or asteroids, etc
would be a relatively simple feat...

Oh yeah, did I mention that I'd be interested too (for the right price)? :-)

-Rob

Gibran Saleh

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Aug 23, 2002, 5:31:43 PM8/23/02
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I'd definitely be interested in both Atari and Midway minis--both for use
with Mame and to "reproduce" classic games.

I agree that the 19" monitors in the Atari vertical cabs are awesome. 13"
monitors always seem too small, and were the big drawback to minis for me.

GIbran

"Tim" <bl...@none.org> wrote in message
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> The nice thing about Atari minis is they use 19" monitors. The yukky
> thing about them is the marquee position - on the front of the control
> panel.
>
> I like the Williams and later Midway minis the best. I would probably
> not buy a repro Atari mini for myself.
>
> Tim

Bryan McCraw

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Aug 23, 2002, 5:49:31 PM8/23/02
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I also have a Centipede cocktail cabinet and and a Centipede cabaret
cabinet. If there is enough interest I would consider reproducing the Atari
cabaret.

What I like about the cabrets that use 13" monitors is that 14 or 15" vga
computer monitors work in these cabinets with little modification. !4's are
older and usually free or cheap to get, so are 15" and they still sell those
new (as low as $65).

E-mail feedbacks on this will be appreciated.


Bryan

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Michael Lenardon

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Aug 23, 2002, 9:09:21 PM8/23/02
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I had made a Williams Mini cab a couple of years ago. It was one of the
best little cabs ever. I would love to see a professionally done repro of
these. PS the Robotron art for the Mini is available except for the CPO
freely and is small enough to print. Clays kit or a Mame setup would be
great in this cab style.

Michael
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Scott Caldwell

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Aug 23, 2002, 10:48:50 PM8/23/02
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I hate to be a stickler here, but a lot of those Midway mini cabinets
you mention are not the same. The Pac-Man mini cab. is the same as
used in Galaxian, Rally-X and some others. Ms. Pac-Man and Galaga
are the same, but TRON, Bosconian, Wizard of Wor, Gorf, etc. are
different. I have a TRON mini sitting right next to my Ms. Pac-Man
mini and the cabinets are different. Bosconian and TRON are the
same cabinet though. I need to gather my pics-up to show the sutble
difference (sometimes major differences) in these cabinets. If the
cabs. are only going to be used for MAME then that's one thing, but
if they are being restored with original parts, then the cabs need
to match for the parts to fit right.

Scott C.

Scott Caldwell

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Aug 23, 2002, 11:00:19 PM8/23/02
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OK, guys. Let me let everyone in on some info
here. The intent of these cabinets is so people
can use actual parts or repros of actual parts &
make them into real games. The MAME idea had
never occured to me, but I guess the buyer can
do whatever they want with it. Of the cabinets
we are so far considering, here is what we have:

- Pac-Man mini (same as Galaxian, Rally-X Space
Zip, Space Encounters, and a few others). I
know most of these will become Pac-Man and
Galaxian and most of this artwork is being
reproed, the wiring is easily available as are
the boards, etc. The buyer can decide of they
want wood lamanent, like Pac-Man, or black,
painted sides like Galaxian.
- Williams mini (the cabinets Williams used for
Moon Patrol, Stargate and Robotron) are all the
same cabinet. The buyer can select which color
they would like to sides, so it matches the
game they'll be installing in it.
- We have discussed the Atari cabaret cabinets,
but have wondered which cabinet to make. Only
3 of the cabaret cabinets were ever the same
(Tempest, Centipede and Dig Dug). I have two
of these and my buddy has the 3rd, so I can say
for sure the cabinets are the same. The cabaret
cabinet used for Asteroids Deluxe is slightly
different than what was used for BattleZone (I
own both of these cabaret games too). The
marquees, speaker and coin door locations are
different (goofy, huh!). If we did this cabinet,
then we'd probably do the Tempest, Centipede, &
Dig Dug cabaret (the one with the 19" monitor).
Two of the 3 CPOs are already being reproed and
the 3rd has already been scanned and will be
reproed if the demand is high-enough. I would
imagine the same is true of the bezels (Tempest
is only tinted plexi).

We have discussed also doing the Ms. Pac-Man mini
cabinets, which are the same as the Galaga, but
may also do Wizard of Wor, TRON, etc. if there is
enough demand. I have these actual cabinets, so
the reproduction will match exactly.

For the record, this shop is a professional wood
shop and they make all sorts of custom cabinets,
kitchen, bathroom, etc, etc, etc. cabinets, etc.
I have no doubt these will be done right and
professionally. If I didn't, I would have never
suggested this to the newsgroup.

The artwork subject came-up. Let me just say the
artwork for these 3 Williams game is available,
and if the demand for the artwork is there, then
the artwork will be available.

Scott C.

Brandorf

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Aug 24, 2002, 1:45:37 AM8/24/02
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A Ms. Pac/Galaga Mini I would definatley buy, but $300 is somewhat steep
considering the relatively cheap cost for me to do it myself, but that's me,
I'm not production line, I'm sue you'll be able to get the cost down, you
could always sell them unpainted, and let us do that ourselves. Many of us
(collectors) like to rebuild and refurbish these games, but have little/no
woodworking experience.

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Azarcadegames

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Aug 23, 2002, 11:56:02 PM8/23/02
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Robo mini cpos will be done shortly on a VERY limited basis and will be pricey.

darin

Scott Caldwell

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Aug 24, 2002, 9:01:22 AM8/24/02
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I, myself, don't have a lot of wood-working experience, so I agree.
I think a # of collectors would like these cabinets, since they
will be new, solid, and it will just be a matter of putting the
parts in the cabinets and playing. Buying it without the paint
may be an option, but I doubt that would save more than about $10
to $20. We'll see and I'll let everyone know when things are
finalized.

Scott C.

AndySAE

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Aug 24, 2002, 11:19:26 PM8/24/02
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ALSO interested in Ms. Pac/Galaga Mini.....


Ed VanderVeen

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Aug 26, 2002, 9:38:07 AM8/26/02
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I like the idea of "new" empty cabinets for restoration, but shipping
costs will prevent many people from ordering one. Unless...have you
considered selling an "kit" where the cabinet was unassembled with all
the pieces laid flat (like an entertainment center you buy from
wal-mart). This would make shipping easier and cheaper. Just include
instructions for assembly.
Regards,
Ed VanderVeen
http://www.GameRoomClassifieds.com

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Gregory McGill

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Aug 26, 2002, 3:37:40 PM8/26/02
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I already make mini's, 27" 2 and 4 player layout and jukebox kits.
shipped flat.. ready to go! www.arcadeshopper.com

Gregory McGill

http://www.arcadeshopper.com/
Buy, Sell, Trade Arcade video-games and pinball machines. Game location and procurement services.
Hand built NEW MAME cabinets and MP3 jukeboxes.

Chris Yotz

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Aug 26, 2002, 3:54:19 PM8/26/02
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>I already make mini's, 27" 2 and 4 player layout and jukebox kits.
>shipped flat.. ready to go! www.arcadeshopper.com
>
>Gregory McGill

I don't think that was what Scott was talking about.

Chris Yotz
litga...@cs.com

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