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planetmess

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Dec 31, 2009, 12:50:42 PM12/31/09
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Ok, so I cannot for the life of me figure out how these HUGE scores
appear on the high score list. When I finish a game I have less than
100,000 points and every score on the high score list seems to be in
the millions. I've looked around on the net and I'm just trying to
figure out HOW this is possible in this game (assuming it is). Is
there a breakage multiplier somewhere or some big secret? This has
been bugging me for a few weeks now...

Thanks for any insight!

Mic

bit

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Dec 31, 2009, 2:19:25 PM12/31/09
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planetmess <jetb...@gmail.com> wrote in news:d5015f42-8d56-4cc4-b16b-
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Mic, there's a bug in the early revision ROM set that, if exploited, can
yield some massive scores.

I recorded a video about it awhile back if you want to take a look:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Ataricade#p/u/2/j1YizVyVUd4

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planetmess

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Jan 4, 2010, 4:48:32 PM1/4/10
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> Mic, there's a bug in the early revision ROM set that, if exploited, can
> yield some massive scores.
>
> I recorded a video about it awhile back if you want to take a look:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/user/Ataricade#p/u/2/j1YizVyVUd4
>
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> YouTube videos:http://www.youtube.com/user/Ataricade

Wow - I had heard about that bug but never have been able to get it to
work. Those are some crazy scores. I wonder if the designers when
creating the high score list all used it?

I looked at some of those other videos you had - NICE arcade! There
are more than a couple titles in there I wouldn't mind playing!

Thanks for the answer!

Mic

bit

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Jan 5, 2010, 2:43:05 AM1/5/10
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planetmess <jetb...@gmail.com> wrote in news:b36f85bc-3cb3-417e-9558-
aa19e5...@s3g2000yqs.googlegroups.com:

> Wow - I had heard about that bug but never have been able to get it to
> work. Those are some crazy scores. I wonder if the designers when
> creating the high score list all used it?
>
> I looked at some of those other videos you had - NICE arcade! There
> are more than a couple titles in there I wouldn't mind playing!
>
> Thanks for the answer!
>
> Mic


Thanks Mic. Those vids are kind of old. I need to make a new one. A lot
of new games have come in since that last video was taken.

I'm not sure if Rusty Dawe and the rest of the Paperboy team utilized the
glitch for the default HS table or not. Rusty is still around and
actually attended a live chat not long on CoinOpSpace.com. I copied the
transcript over to my site if you want to read though it. There's some
funny stories about Pole Postion and Firefox in it. :) It's a good read:

http://www.ataricade.com/breightondawe.htm

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Brian Pipa

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Jan 5, 2010, 10:09:11 AM1/5/10
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> Wow - I had heard about that bug but never have been able to get it to
>I wonder if the designers when
> creating the high score list all used it?
>
They were the programmers - they don't need to exploit a bug - they
could have coded the high score list like that without having to play
it :)

Brian
http://thebrokenjoystick.com

bit

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Jan 5, 2010, 4:52:47 PM1/5/10
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Brian Pipa <bria...@gmail.com> wrote in news:3f9bdedc-6f30-49aa-a1a1-
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> They were the programmers - they don't need to exploit a bug - they
> could have coded the high score list like that without having to play
> it :)
>
> Brian
> http://thebrokenjoystick.com

That is most likely the case with all the default high score tables. But
you never know, I mean...what's the fun in that? :)

Something cool would have been to designate a certain day as 'high score
day" where all those that worked on the game got to play just one game
that day, and those were the scores that would be used for the default
high score list.

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planetmess

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Jan 7, 2010, 11:56:09 AM1/7/10
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Thanks for the interview link - interesting reading. I've never heard
of Accelerator so I'll have to look into it. I'm sure the high scores
are just coded, but you'd think they'd do it in such a way that you
CAN add your name to the list otherwise what's the point of putting in
a bunch of unobtainable scores. Other than the bug, I just don't see
how you can achieve the kinds of scores that appear on the high score
list on that game.

Mic

bit

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Jan 8, 2010, 1:46:54 PM1/8/10
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planetmess <jetb...@gmail.com> wrote in news:166a9886-0a6e-40ba-a4da-
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You got it. I like the Pole Position rehab story. :) I just checked all
3 PB rom sets in MAME and all the default high score tables are filled
with really elementary scores. So just reset the high score tables for
your board. Any massive scores that you have on your board were made
post-production while in operation and/or in collectors' hands.

Here's how to reset your high score tables (from the manual):

Resetting the High-Score Table. Reset the High-Score Table as follows:

1. Pull the handlebar control upward to position the exclamation mark (!)
next to the Reset High-Score Table message.

2. Press the left-hand throw button to change the NO message to YES.

The High-Score Table is reset after the right-hand throw button is
pressed to leave the Accounting Information screen.

Press the righ-hand throw button to obtail the next sceeen.

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