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 More options Dec 11 2004, 12:09 am
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From: "netnews.insightbb.com" <o...@ok.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 05:09:54 GMT
Local: Sat, Dec 11 2004 12:09 am
Subject: Vectrex Logic Board Graphic
I have completed my drawing of the Vectrex Logic Board.

Should be suitable for framing..

If you are using IE be sure to expand the graphic to see all the detail....

It can be found at:

http://www.mainbyte.com/vectrex/vectrex.jpg

Thanks,

Ron


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 More options Dec 11 2004, 7:20 am
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From: "Richard Hutchinson" <richard.hutchin...@dsl.pipex.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 12:20:36 -0000
Local: Sat, Dec 11 2004 7:20 am
Subject: Re: Vectrex Logic Board Graphic
Ron, that is a truly beautiful piece of work - you have some real talent.

I'm definitely going to get it framed and have it pride of place on the wall
of my lab.

Thankyou !

Richard H.


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Discussion subject changed to "Socketed chips? (was Re: Vectrex Logic Board Graphic)" by Eric Smith
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 More options Dec 11 2004, 8:52 pm
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From: Eric Smith <eric-no-spam-for...@brouhaha.com>
Date: 11 Dec 2004 17:52:29 -0800
Local: Sat, Dec 11 2004 8:52 pm
Subject: Socketed chips? (was Re: Vectrex Logic Board Graphic)

"netnews.insightbb.com" <o...@ok.com> writes:
> I have completed my drawing of the Vectrex Logic Board.
> Should be suitable for framing..

Very nice!  Thanks!

A question for those of you that have looked at the a lot of Vectrex
logic boards: do all Vectrexes have the same selection of chips
socketed?  The parts list in the service manual lists enough sockets
for all 13 chips, but Ron's drawing only appears to show sockets for
six of them (those with an asterisk in this list):

     *  IC201: 8K*8 ROM          
        IC202: 74LS00                    
        IC203: 74LS32                        
        IC204: 2114 RAM
        IC205: 2114 RAM
        IC206: MC68A09 CPU
     *  IC207: 6522 VIA                    
     *  IC208: GI AY-3-8912 sound          
     *  IC301: MC1408P8 DAC                
     *  IC302: 4052B or MC14052B mux
     *  IC303: LF347/TL084/MC34004P quad opamp
        IC304: LF353/TL082/MC34002P dual opamp
        IC305: 4066B or MC14066B transmission gates

In particular, I'm curious whether all units have the ROM socketed.

From a manufacturing point of view, it would make sense to omit most or
all of the sockets.  The direct cost is obviously lower, but there is
also the indirect benefit that soldered connections are more reliable
than socketed connections, resulting in fewer returns.


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Ron  
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 More options Dec 11 2004, 9:37 pm
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From: "Ron" <o...@ok.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 02:37:15 GMT
Local: Sat, Dec 11 2004 9:37 pm
Subject: Re: Socketed chips? (was Re: Vectrex Logic Board Graphic)
Thanks,

I did draw it as it was, and those are the ones, at least on my only vectrex
board, that were in sockets. I really try to keep them as accurate as I can.
I even do my best to have all the resistor color codes correct,  though I
will remove a heat sink sometimes to show the actual chip.

I have noticed on other systems, computers and games, that it can vary
between boards.  I am cleaning up some atari 5200 boards and one has most of
the chips socketed, while the other only has the larger ones socketed and
both show the same revision number.

I wish it was law that all chips had to be in a socket :>)

I always try to add one whenever I have to switch one out...

Ron

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Discussion subject changed to "Vectrex Logic Board Graphic" by Paul Williams
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 More options Dec 12 2004, 7:54 am
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From: Paul Williams <pa...@informatics.bangor.ac.uk>
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:54:47 +0000
Local: Sun, Dec 12 2004 7:54 am
Subject: Re: Vectrex Logic Board Graphic
Hi,

Great picture! Do you have anymore boards in the pipeline?

Reminds me of the times when I was a kid I would take things
apart to gawp in wonder at the magical chips that made
things work. Little wonder that these days I'm an electronic
engineer. At my place of work we have display cabinets that show
old computer components and motherboards. Might be
fun (and totally nerdy) to have something like that at home lol

I had a Vectrex in the 80s and it was a cherished piece of
treasure. I would take the cover off once a month or so to
clean out the dust!

I donated the Vec to my brother when I left home (a sad day)
and only recently bought another on EBay; this one is
staying on one piece though!

Best regards,
Paul


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 More options Dec 12 2004, 10:26 am
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From: "Ron" <o...@ok.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 15:26:53 GMT
Local: Sun, Dec 12 2004 10:26 am
Subject: Re: Vectrex Logic Board Graphic
Paul.. thanks..

Yes I have several done already.. atari 2600 (4switch), commodore 64, TI 99,
VIC 20, ZX81, TRS Color Computer, and a Geneve,  I am getting ready to work
on an Atari 5200, an Intellivision, and a colecovision.

I am not sure what the deal is, but these old boards look like art to me :>)

Ron

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 More options Dec 12 2004, 12:50 pm
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From: Rob Mitchell <"solder_guy"@(what_is_this)yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:50:59 -0500
Local: Sun, Dec 12 2004 12:50 pm
Subject: Re: Vectrex Logic Board Graphic

>>Yes I have several done already.. atari 2600 (4switch), commodore 64, TI 99, VIC 20, ZX81, TRS Color Computer, and a Geneve,  I am getting ready to work on an Atari 5200, an Intellivision, and a colecovision.<<

Wow  Ron!!  What art!  I wish I had a color printer to make these and
show!  I would like to have the Vectrex and the Atari 2600 versions!

You should promote these at the Atariage.com website!

Rob Mitchell, Atlanta, Ga


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 More options Dec 12 2004, 1:14 pm
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From: "www.vectrex.nl" <vectrex@nl>
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 19:14:33 +0100
Local: Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:14 pm
Subject: Re: Vectrex Logic Board Graphic
Hi Ron,

Can I put it on my site?

Jeroen
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 More options Dec 12 2004, 8:00 pm
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From: "Ron" <o...@ok.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 01:00:58 GMT
Local: Sun, Dec 12 2004 8:00 pm
Subject: Re: Vectrex Logic Board Graphic
Rob,

Contact me by email at the below site with your mailing address and I will
mail them to you.

Ron

http://www.mainbyte.com/motherboards/mb_graphics.html

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 More options Dec 12 2004, 8:02 pm
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From: "Ron" <o...@ok.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 01:02:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Vectrex Logic Board Graphic
Yes, no problem.. In fact I have had a lot of response on this and my other
motherboards that I have thrown a little page together.

http://www.mainbyte.com/motherboards/mb_graphics.html

Thanks,

Ron

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 More options Dec 12 2004, 9:11 pm
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From: Rob Mitchell <"solder_guy"@(what_is_this)yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:11:36 -0500
Local: Sun, Dec 12 2004 9:11 pm
Subject: Re: Vectrex Logic Board Graphic

>>Contact me by email at the below site with your mailing address and I will mail them to you.<<

Gosh!  Gulp!  Thanks Ron!  Merry Christmas!

Rob Mitchell, Atlanta, GA


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Discussion subject changed to "Socketed chips? (was Re: Vectrex Logic Board Graphic)" by Slor
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 More options Dec 13 2004, 5:12 pm
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From: Slor <s...@comcast.net>
Date: 13 Dec 2004 22:12:09 GMT
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Subject: Re: Socketed chips? (was Re: Vectrex Logic Board Graphic)
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> I wish it was law that all chips had to be in a socket :>)

I'm with you on that one!

--
Slor


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Discussion subject changed to "Vectrex Logic Board Graphic" by dgo
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 More options Dec 13 2004, 5:22 pm
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Subject: Re: Vectrex Logic Board Graphic
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Super Cool!

I'll frame this!

Thanks a lot!


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 More options Dec 13 2004, 10:45 pm
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From: pete...@my-deja.com
Date: 13 Dec 2004 19:45:05 -0800
Local: Mon, Dec 13 2004 10:45 pm
Subject: Re: Vectrex Logic Board Graphic

netnews.insightbb.com wrote:
> I have completed my drawing of the Vectrex Logic Board.

> Should be suitable for framing..

> If you are using IE be sure to expand the graphic to see all the
detail....

> It can be found at:

> http://www.mainbyte.com/vectrex/vectrex.jpg

> Thanks,

> Ron

WOW Ron - awsome graphic!

Now, how long did it take you to draw this?  What application did you
use to
get it to look so good?  Did the application do most of the work or did
you
have to do lots of manual drawing?

Peteski


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 More options Dec 14 2004, 8:42 pm
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From: "Ron" <o...@ok.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 01:42:57 GMT
Local: Tues, Dec 14 2004 8:42 pm
Subject: Re: Vectrex Logic Board Graphic
Peteski

Thanks for your nice comments.  I use Paint shop pro to do the graphics.  I
probably have 15 hours in each one.  It is done manually, but I do keep all
the components so it gets easier as I go along.  The biggest job is the
circuit board.. lots of traces..

I scan the board at 600dpi and then use layers above it for all the
different parts.  I use the scan so I can keep it as accurate as possible
but that is all it is used for, nothing gets converted.

Ron

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 More options Dec 14 2004, 11:03 pm
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From: pete...@my-deja.com
Date: 14 Dec 2004 20:03:26 -0800
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Subject: Re: Vectrex Logic Board Graphic
Thanks for the info Ron.

So, everything is traced manually using the scan as a template.  Wow!
As I said before - superb job!

Peteski


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