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Erland Sommarskog

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Mar 12, 2018, 5:57:09 AM3/12/18
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Welcome to Rotating Quiz 284. This quiz consists of two entirely unrelated
parts. The hope is that if one of the parts is not within your area of
interest, you can still make a good score from the other part.

In the first part, you are given a list of occupation or similar that
a current world leader (head of state or head of government) had at
some point in their life before they reached their current position.
Your task is to give the *country* they rule. If you instead give the
name of the leader, that works too, but there is no bonus for giving
both. And if you give both, both must be correct.) In this part, each
question is worth two points (because part 2 has twice as many questions).

In the second part, you are given a list of names of pieces of classical
music, sorted in chronological order. Your task is to uniquely identify
the composer. That is, as long there only is one well-known composer with
that name, it is sufficiently to give only the last name, but else you
need to give more. For some pieces, I use the name in the original
language, whereas for other I use an English translation of the title. The
latter are marked with an asterisk. Thus, if the title is in English, but
there is no asterisk, English is the original language for the title. In
this part, each question is worth one point.

As always, post answers to the newsgroup. Answer only from your knowledge
without googling etc. I guess that I will post the answer slate on
Saturday 17th.


Part 1:
1) Bus driver
2) Chocolate king
3) Eye surgeon
4) Intelligence officer
5) Investment banker
6) PhD in Physical Chemistry
7) Professional football player
8) Welder

Part 2:
1) Le quattro stagioni
2) * St Matthew Passion
3) Eine kleine Nacthmusik
4) Sinfonia eroica
5) * Trout Quintet
6) An der schönen blauen Donau
7) * Pictures at an Exhibition
8) * Symphony No. 6 in B minor, Pathétique
9) * Symphony No. 9 in E minor, "From the New World"
10) Finlandia
11) Also sprach Zarathustra
12) Le sacre du printemps
13) Concierto de Aranjuez
14) Fanfare for the Common Man
15) Young Persons Guide to the Orchestra
16) 4'33''

Dan Blum

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Mar 12, 2018, 8:27:08 AM3/12/18
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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:

> Part 1:
> 1) Bus driver

France; Spain

> 2) Chocolate king

Belgium; Switzerland

> 3) Eye surgeon

Sweden; Norway

> 4) Intelligence officer

Russia

> 5) Investment banker

Japan

> 6) PhD in Physical Chemistry

Germany

> 7) Professional football player

Spain; Italy

> 8) Welder

China; Poland


> Part 2:
> 1) Le quattro stagioni

Vivaldi

> 2) * St Matthew Passion

J. S. Bach

> 3) Eine kleine Nacthmusik

Mozart

> 4) Sinfonia eroica

Beethoven

> 6) An der sch?nen blauen Donau

Handel

> 7) * Pictures at an Exhibition

Mussourgsky

> 11) Also sprach Zarathustra

Richard Strauss

> 14) Fanfare for the Common Man

Sousa

> 16) 4'33''

John Cage

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Marc Dashevsky

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Putin

> 5) Investment banker
> 6) PhD in Physical Chemistry
> 7) Professional football player
> 8) Welder
>
> Part 2:
> 1) Le quattro stagioni
> 2) * St Matthew Passion
> 3) Eine kleine Nacthmusik
Mozart

> 4) Sinfonia eroica
Beethoven

> 5) * Trout Quintet
Schubert

> 6) An der schönen blauen Donau
Johann Strauss

> 7) * Pictures at an Exhibition
Mussorgsky

> 8) * Symphony No. 6 in B minor, Pathétique
> 9) * Symphony No. 9 in E minor, "From the New World"
Dvorak

> 10) Finlandia
> 11) Also sprach Zarathustra
Richard Strauss

> 12) Le sacre du printemps
Igor Stravinsky

> 13) Concierto de Aranjuez
> 14) Fanfare for the Common Man
Aaron Copland

> 15) Young Persons Guide to the Orchestra
Leonard Bernstein

> 16) 4'33''
John Cage


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Mark Brader

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Erland Sommarskog:
> Welcome to Rotating Quiz 284. This quiz consists of two entirely unrelated
> parts. The hope is that if one of the parts is not within your area of
> interest, you can still make a good score from the other part.
>
> In the first part, you are given a list of occupation or similar that
> a current world leader (head of state or head of government) had at
> some point in their life before they reached their current position.
> Your task is to give the *country* they rule. If you instead give the
> name of the leader, that works too, but there is no bonus for giving
> both. And if you give both, both must be correct.) In this part, each
> question is worth two points (because part 2 has twice as many questions).
>
> In the second part, you are given a list of names of pieces of classical
> music, sorted in chronological order. Your task is to uniquely identify
> the composer. That is, as long there only is one well-known composer with
> that name, it is sufficiently to give only the last name, but else you
> need to give more. For some pieces, I use the name in the original
> language, whereas for other I use an English translation of the title. The
> latter are marked with an asterisk. Thus, if the title is in English, but
> there is no asterisk, English is the original language for the title. In
> this part, each question is worth one point.
>
> As always, post answers to the newsgroup. Answer only from your knowledge
> without googling etc. I guess that I will post the answer slate on
> Saturday 17th.
>

> Part 1:
> 1) Bus driver

Sweden.

> 2) Chocolate king

Sweden.

> 3) Eye surgeon

Sweden.

> 4) Intelligence officer

Sweden.

> 5) Investment banker

Sweden.

> 6) PhD in Physical Chemistry

Sweden.

> 7) Professional football player

Well, it's not Canada, so that only leaves the US. Maybe *that*
explains how he got to be that way!

[Yes, I'm joking as to the "logic" as well as the politics.]

> 8) Welder

Sweden.


> Part 2:
> 3) Eine kleine Nacthmusik

Mozart.

> 4) Sinfonia eroica

Beethoven.

> 5) * Trout Quintet

Schubert.

> 6) An der schönen blauen Donau

Johann Strauss.

> 7) * Pictures at an Exhibition

Mussorgsky.

> 8) * Symphony No. 6 in B minor, Pathétique

Tchaikovsky.

> 9) * Symphony No. 9 in E minor, "From the New World"

Dvorak.

> 10) Finlandia

Sibelius.

> 11) Also sprach Zarathustra

Richard Strauss?

> 12) Le sacre du printemps

Stravinski?

> 14) Fanfare for the Common Man

Elgar?

> 16) 4'33''

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Joe

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Sweden

> 2) Chocolate king

Sweden

> 3) Eye surgeon

Sweden

> 4) Intelligence officer

Russia

> 5) Investment banker

Sweden

> 6) PhD in Physical Chemistry

Germany

> 7) Professional football player

Liberia

> 8) Welder

Sweden

>
> Part 2:
> 1) Le quattro stagioni

Vivaldi

> 2) * St Matthew Passion

J S Bach

> 3) Eine kleine Nacthmusik

Mozart

> 4) Sinfonia eroica

Beethoven

> 5) * Trout Quintet

Schubert

> 6) An der schönen blauen Donau

Johann Strauss

> 7) * Pictures at an Exhibition

Mussorgski

> 8) * Symphony No. 6 in B minor, Pathétique

Tschaikovski

> 9) * Symphony No. 9 in E minor, "From the New World"

Dvorjak

> 10) Finlandia

Sibelius

> 11) Also sprach Zarathustra

Richard Strauss

> 12) Le sacre du printemps

Stravinski

> 13) Concierto de Aranjuez

Rodriguez

> 14) Fanfare for the Common Man

Copeland

> 15) Young Persons Guide to the Orchestra

Britten

> 16) 4'33''

Cage

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Peter Smyth

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Mar 12, 2018, 5:58:00 PM3/12/18
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Erland Sommarskog wrote:

> Part 1:
> 1) Bus driver
Sweden
> 2) Chocolate king
Sweden
> 3) Eye surgeon
Sweden
> 4) Intelligence officer
Russia
> 5) Investment banker
Sweden
> 6) PhD in Physical Chemistry
Sweden
> 7) Professional football player
Liberia
> 8) Welder
Sweden
>
> Part 2:
> 1) Le quattro stagioni
Vivaldi
> 2) * St Matthew Passion
> 3) Eine kleine Nacthmusik
> 4) Sinfonia eroica
> 5) * Trout Quintet
> 6) An der schönen blauen Donau
> 7) * Pictures at an Exhibition
Mussogorsky
> 8) * Symphony No. 6 in B minor, Pathétique
Beethoven
> 9) * Symphony No. 9 in E minor, "From the New World"
Dvorak
> 10) Finlandia
Sibelius
> 11) Also sprach Zarathustra
> 12) Le sacre du printemps
> 13) Concierto de Aranjuez
> 14) Fanfare for the Common Man
Copeland
> 15) Young Persons Guide to the Orchestra
Britten
> 16) 4'33''
Cage

Peter Smyth

Dan Tilque

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Johan Sebastian Bach

> 3) Eine kleine Nacthmusik

Mozart

> 4) Sinfonia eroica

Beethoven

> 5) * Trout Quintet

J C Bach

> 6) An der schönen blauen Donau

Strauss

> 7) * Pictures at an Exhibition
> 8) * Symphony No. 6 in B minor, Pathétique
> 9) * Symphony No. 9 in E minor, "From the New World"

Mahler

> 10) Finlandia
> 11) Also sprach Zarathustra

Wagner

> 12) Le sacre du printemps
> 13) Concierto de Aranjuez
> 14) Fanfare for the Common Man

Copland

> 15) Young Persons Guide to the Orchestra
> 16) 4'33''


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Erland Sommarskog

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Mar 17, 2018, 8:28:36 AM3/17/18
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Erland Sommarskog (esq...@sommarskog.se) writes:

Rotating Quiz 284 and "Joe" stomps the field! Joe, rotating quiz 285 is
yours!

Here are the answers, and individual scores at the end.

> 1) Bus driver

Venezuela (Nicolás Maduro)

(If think that country has been thrown under the bus, that might be the
reason.)

> 2) Chocolate king

Ukraine (Petro Poroshenko)

(Poroshenko is an oligarch who made his fortune from the chocolatery
Roshen [Poro-Roshen-ko], which earned him this nick name.)

> 3) Eye surgeon

Syria (Bashar Al-Assad)

(Reading Wikipedia, he might not ever have worked as such, only conducted
post-graduate studies in the field.)

> 4) Intelligence officer

Russia (Vladimir Putin)

> 5) Investment banker

France (Emmanuel Macron)

> 6) PhD in Physical Chemistry

Germany (Angela Merkel)

> 7) Professional football player

Liberia (George Weah)

(Clubs he played for includes Chelsea, Man City and Milan.)

(When researching possible questions for this part, I learnt that
Turkey's Erdogan played football semiprofessionally in youth. While a
far cry from Weah, I would have approved Turkey had anyone answered that.)

> 8) Welder

Yes, those who hedged with Sweden for everything they did not know were
right. Our Stefan Löfven started as a welder. He got involved in the local
union, and by time he advanced to be the leader of the national union for
metal workers. When the Social Democrates were in urgent need of a new
leader after having deposed a trainwreck, he was persuaded to step
forward.

> Part 2:
> 1) Le quattro stagioni

Antonio Vivaldi

> 2) * St Matthew Passion

Johann Sebastian Bach

> 3) Eine kleine Nacthmusik

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

At least the initials were required. Mozart alone does not make clear
whether you are referring to Leopold or Wolfgang Amadeus.

> 4) Sinfonia eroica

Ludwig van Beethoven

ObTrivia: Which was the "hero" that Beethoven originally had in mind?

> 5) * Trout Quintet

Franz Schubert

> 6) An der schönen blauen Donau

Johann Strauss II

II or similar was required. There are no less than three of them.

> 7) * Pictures at an Exhibition

Modest Mussorgsky

> 8) * Symphony No. 6 in B minor, Pathétique

Piotr Tschaikovsky

> 9) * Symphony No. 9 in E minor, "From the New World"

Antonin Dvorak

> 10) Finlandia

Jean Sibelius

I'm happy to see that so many knows this wonderful tribute to our
eastern neighbour.

> 11) Also sprach Zarathustra

Richard Strauss

> 12) Le sacre du printemps

Igor Stravinsky

> 13) Concierto de Aranjuez

Joaquín Rodrigo

I did not approve of Rodriquez, since that is a different surname.

> 14) Fanfare for the Common Man

Aaron Copeland

> 15) Young Persons Guide to the Orchestra

Benjamin Britten

> 16) 4'33''

John Cage

There is a live album with Frank Zappa where someone calls out for the
Allman Brothers song "Whippin' Post". Zappa says that they don't know
the song, but asks the guy if he can hum a few bars of it. There are
some seconds of silence and then Zappa says "Judging from the way you
sang it, it must be a John Cage composition", obviously alluding to
4'33''. (By the way, Zappa would actually later record and perform
"Whippin' Post".)

Here are the individual scores, best read with a fixed font.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Dan B 2 2
Marc D 2
Mark B 2
Joe 2 2 2 2
Peter S 2 2 2
Dan T

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
Dan B 1 1 1 1 1 1
Marc D 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Mark B 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Joe 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Peter S 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Dan T 1 1 1

Part 1 Part 2 Total
Dan B 4 6 10
Marc D 2 8 10
Mark B 0 9 9
Joe 6 13 19
Peter S 4 7 11
Dan T 0 3 3


Mark Brader

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Erland Sommarskog:
> > 1) Le quattro stagioni
>
> Antonio Vivaldi

(Grr. Why'd he have to title the thing in a language where they can't
tell a season from a station?)

> > 3) Eine kleine Nacthmusik
>
> Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
>
> At least the initials were required. Mozart alone does not make clear
> whether you are referring to Leopold or Wolfgang Amadeus.

Objection! You said that rule only applied if the other composer was
*well-known*. Same complaint for Johann Strauss without a number.

> ObTrivia: Which was the "hero" that Beethoven originally had in mind?

Napoleon. Which means Napoleon Bonaparte.
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Erland Sommarskog

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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> Objection! You said that rule only applied if the other composer was
> *well-known*. Same complaint for Johann Strauss without a number.

While W.A. is far more famous than his father, Leopold Mozart is still
not an obscure composer. As a matter of fact, when I looked up a work,
he was mentioned as the possible composer (although the work in question
is traditionally attributed to Haydn.)

I will have to admit that I don't know that much about Strauss the elder
than he existed, and I did not know about the third when I looked him up
on Wikipedia.

Then again, before a recent Toronto pub quiz where we told that "Bach"
was not a sufficient answer, I was not aware of any other composer with
that name.

>> ObTrivia: Which was the "hero" that Beethoven originally had in mind?
>
> Napoleon. Which means Napoleon Bonaparte.

Correct. And when I say "originally" is because Beethoven got very
upset and disappointed when Napoleon crowned himself emperor.

Mark Brader

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Mark Brader:
> > Objection! You said that rule only applied if the other composer was
> > *well-known*. Same complaint for Johann Strauss without a number.

Erland Sommarskog:
> While W.A. is far more famous than his father, Leopold Mozart is still
> not an obscure composer.

Well, there are gradations *between* "obscure" and "well-known".

> I will have to admit that I don't know that much about Strauss the elder
> than he existed...

In fact "Jeopardy!" had a question this week where they identified the
composer they had in mind as "Johann Strauss the younger". So I guess
some people *have* heard of the first one.

> Then again, before a recent Toronto pub quiz where we told that "Bach"
> was not a sufficient answer, I was not aware of any other composer with
> that name.

But you were *told* that "Bach" wasn't sufficient; you didn't have to guess.

Oh well. Your RQ, your rules.
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Gareth Owen

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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> writes:

>> 14) Fanfare for the Common Man
>
> Aaron Copeland

A pedant writes: Copland

> There is a live album with Frank Zappa where someone calls out for the
> Allman Brothers song "Whippin' Post". Zappa says that they don't know
> the song, but asks the guy if he can hum a few bars of it. There are
> some seconds of silence and then Zappa says "Judging from the way you
> sang it, it must be a John Cage composition", obviously alluding to
> 4'33''. (By the way, Zappa would actually later record and perform
> "Whippin' Post".)

That's the bit that precedes "Montana (Whipping Floss)" on one of the
YCDTOSA volumes, right? I don't know which one, because I know it from
the YCDTOSA Sampler, which is the only YCDTOSA that came out on vinyl.

Erland Sommarskog

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Gareth Owen (gwo...@gmail.com) writes:
> Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> writes:
>
>>> 14) Fanfare for the Common Man
>>
>> Aaron Copeland
>
> A pedant writes: Copland
>

Thanks Gareth for the correction!

As Gareth surely knows, but maybe not everyone else, this piece has
been interpreted by Emerson, Lake & Palmer who also covered "Hoe-Down"
from his ballet "Roedeo".

What I also forgot to mention in the answer slate is that Miles Davis
did a most wonderful interpretation of "Concierto de Aranjuez" on his
album "Sketches of Spain".

>> There is a live album with Frank Zappa where someone calls out for the
>> Allman Brothers song "Whippin' Post". Zappa says that they don't know
>> the song, but asks the guy if he can hum a few bars of it. There are
>> some seconds of silence and then Zappa says "Judging from the way you
>> sang it, it must be a John Cage composition", obviously alluding to
>> 4'33''. (By the way, Zappa would actually later record and perform
>> "Whippin' Post".)
>
> That's the bit that precedes "Montana (Whipping Floss)" on one of the
> YCDTOSA volumes, right? I don't know which one, because I know it from
> the YCDTOSA Sampler, which is the only YCDTOSA that came out on vinyl.
>

Correct. It is from Volume 2 in the series, which is entirely devoted
to a performance in Helsinki 1974. (Which I believe is the same
concert from which the guitar solo on "Inca Roads" on the original
release of "One Size Fits All" is taken.)

I recall that I read about this on Wikipedia, where they suggested that
you actually hear something and that Zappa would be alluding to a
complete different piece of John Cage.

John Masters

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Mar 18, 2018, 10:58:31 AM3/18/18
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On 2018-03-17 12:28:36 +0000, Erland Sommarskog said:

> Erland Sommarskog (esq...@sommarskog.se) writes:
>
> Rotating Quiz 284 and "Joe" stomps the field! Joe, rotating quiz 285 is
> yours!

Thanks Erland. I'm on the road at the moment and can't get anything
posted till Wednesday so if you want to pass it on to the second placed
that's fine by me otherwise you'll have to wait.

>
>> 3) Eine kleine Nacthmusik
>
> Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
>
> At least the initials were required. Mozart alone does not make clear
> whether you are referring to Leopold or Wolfgang Amadeus.

I totally forgot about poor old Leopold.

>> 13) Concierto de Aranjuez
>
> Joaquín Rodrigo
>
> I did not approve of Rodriquez, since that is a different surname.

I knew this but had just watched "Searching for Sugarman" again and had
Rodriguez on my mind.

>
>> 16) 4'33''
>
> John Cage
>

This is the only one of the 16 that I do not have a recording of.

Joe

Gareth Owen

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John Masters <em...@domain.com> writes:

>>> 16) 4'33''
>>
>> John Cage
>>
>
> This is the only one of the 16 that I do not have a recording of.

For a small fee, I'll send you an audio-file of a unique original
performance of it :)

Erland Sommarskog

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Mar 18, 2018, 12:37:40 PM3/18/18
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John Masters (em...@domain.com) writes:
> Thanks Erland. I'm on the road at the moment and can't get anything
> posted till Wednesday so if you want to pass it on to the second placed
> that's fine by me otherwise you'll have to wait.
>

We have seen longer hiatuses than three days, so we will be looking forward
to your quiz!

Joe Masters

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Mar 18, 2018, 3:47:20 PM3/18/18
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Thanks for the offer but I think I'll just put on Shostakovich 10,
second movement and turn the volume down.

Joe

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