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Mark Brader

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These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2015-03-30,
and should be interpreted accordingly.

On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days (from the first posting).

All questions were written by members of MI5, and are used here by
permission, but have been reformatted and may have been retyped
and/or edited by me. For further information see my 2015-02-23
companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian Inquisition
(QFTCI*)".


** Final, Round 2 - History

* Battle Order

We give you a list of three battles in alphabetical order; you
list them in chronological order.

1. Cambrai, Passchendaele, Verdun.
2. Borodino, the Nile, Trafalgar.
3. Salamis, Marathon, Thermopylae.


* Chinese Revolution

4. The Chinese Civil War (1946-49) was fought by the Communists,
under Mao and his generals, against the Nationalists. Who was
the leader of the Nationalists?

5. Between October 1934 and October 1935, the Red Army of the
Communist Party of China (forerunner of the People's Liberation
Army) was forced into a series of retreats in order to evade the
pursuit of the Kuomintang (or Chinese Nationalist Party army).
This episode has become part of the mythology of the Communist
Party of China. What is it known as (in English)?

6. The Communist Party of China launched an economic and social
campaign from 1958 to 1961 that aimed to rapidly transform the
country from an agrarian economy into a socialist society through
industrialization and collectivization. The campaign caused the
Great Chinese Famine. What was the campaign called (in English)?


* Ships That Went Down Thanks to Another

We give you the vessel responsible and the year of the sinking;
you name the ship that sank.

7. Norwegian cargo ship SS Storstad, 1914.
8. Swedish passenger ship MS Stockholm, 1956.
9. British submarine HMS Conqueror, 1982.


* My Favorite Dictator

We give you the name of a dictator currently in power. (They are
all still in power as this round is posted.) You name the country.
Most of these people were "elected", but it is generally believed
that there was not actually any choice.

10. Thein Sein.
11. Nursultan Nazarbayev.
12. Umar Al-Bashir.


* New France

13. The last remnant of New France is a self-governing "overseas
collectivity" of France, situated in the northwestern Atlantic
Ocean near Canada. What is its name?

14. This colony of New France in northeastern North America included
parts of eastern Quebec, the Maritime provinces, and modern-day
Maine to the Kennebec River. What was it called?

15. In 1803, Napoléon Bonaparte sold the last part of mainland
New France to the United States. What is this *transaction*
known as?

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Dan Blum

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Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:

> ** Final, Round 2 - History

> * Battle Order

> We give you a list of three battles in alphabetical order; you
> list them in chronological order.

> 1. Cambrai, Passchendaele, Verdun.

Verdun, Passchendaele, Cambrai

> 2. Borodino, the Nile, Trafalgar.

the Nile, Trafalgar, Borodino

> 3. Salamis, Marathon, Thermopylae.

Salamis, Thermopylae, Marathon; Salamis, Marathon, Thermopylae

> * Chinese Revolution

> 4. The Chinese Civil War (1946-49) was fought by the Communists,
> under Mao and his generals, against the Nationalists. Who was
> the leader of the Nationalists?

Chiang Kai-Shek

> 5. Between October 1934 and October 1935, the Red Army of the
> Communist Party of China (forerunner of the People's Liberation
> Army) was forced into a series of retreats in order to evade the
> pursuit of the Kuomintang (or Chinese Nationalist Party army).
> This episode has become part of the mythology of the Communist
> Party of China. What is it known as (in English)?

The Long March

> 6. The Communist Party of China launched an economic and social
> campaign from 1958 to 1961 that aimed to rapidly transform the
> country from an agrarian economy into a socialist society through
> industrialization and collectivization. The campaign caused the
> Great Chinese Famine. What was the campaign called (in English)?

Great Leap Forward

> * Ships That Went Down Thanks to Another

> We give you the vessel responsible and the year of the sinking;
> you name the ship that sank.

> 8. Swedish passenger ship MS Stockholm, 1956.

Andrea Doria

> * My Favorite Dictator

> We give you the name of a dictator currently in power. (They are
> all still in power as this round is posted.) You name the country.
> Most of these people were "elected", but it is generally believed
> that there was not actually any choice.

> 10. Thein Sein.

Cambodia; Laos

> 11. Nursultan Nazarbayev.

Kazakhstan

> 12. Umar Al-Bashir.

Tunisia

> * New France

> 13. The last remnant of New France is a self-governing "overseas
> collectivity" of France, situated in the northwestern Atlantic
> Ocean near Canada. What is its name?

St. Pierre et Miquelon

> 15. In 1803, Napol?on Bonaparte sold the last part of mainland
> New France to the United States. What is this *transaction*
> known as?

Louisiana Purchase

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_______________________________________________________________________
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Joshua Kreitzer

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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:POWdnY6p_NQuPQHInZ2dnUU7-
fmd...@vex.net:

> ** Final, Round 2 - History
>
> * Battle Order
>
> We give you a list of three battles in alphabetical order; you
> list them in chronological order.
>
> 1. Cambrai, Passchendaele, Verdun.

Cambrai, Verdun, Passchendaele

> 2. Borodino, the Nile, Trafalgar.

Trafalgar, Borodino, the Nile

> 3. Salamis, Marathon, Thermopylae.

(I thought we were going to get a list in alphabetical order ...)

Marathon, Thermopylae, Salamis


> * Chinese Revolution
>
> 4. The Chinese Civil War (1946-49) was fought by the Communists,
> under Mao and his generals, against the Nationalists. Who was
> the leader of the Nationalists?

Chiang Kai-shek

> 5. Between October 1934 and October 1935, the Red Army of the
> Communist Party of China (forerunner of the People's Liberation
> Army) was forced into a series of retreats in order to evade the
> pursuit of the Kuomintang (or Chinese Nationalist Party army).
> This episode has become part of the mythology of the Communist
> Party of China. What is it known as (in English)?

the Long March

> 6. The Communist Party of China launched an economic and social
> campaign from 1958 to 1961 that aimed to rapidly transform the
> country from an agrarian economy into a socialist society through
> industrialization and collectivization. The campaign caused the
> Great Chinese Famine. What was the campaign called (in English)?

the Great Leap Forward

> * Ships That Went Down Thanks to Another
>
> We give you the vessel responsible and the year of the sinking;
> you name the ship that sank.
>
> 8. Swedish passenger ship MS Stockholm, 1956.

Andrea Doria (?)

> 9. British submarine HMS Conqueror, 1982.

General Belgrano

> * My Favorite Dictator
>
> We give you the name of a dictator currently in power. (They are
> all still in power as this round is posted.) You name the country.
>
> 10. Thein Sein.

Myanmar

> 11. Nursultan Nazarbayev.

Turkmenistan; Kazakhstan

> 12. Umar Al-Bashir.

Sudan

> * New France
>
> 13. The last remnant of New France is a self-governing "overseas
> collectivity" of France, situated in the northwestern Atlantic
> Ocean near Canada. What is its name?

St. Pierre and Miquelon

> 14. This colony of New France in northeastern North America included
> parts of eastern Quebec, the Maritime provinces, and modern-day
> Maine to the Kennebec River. What was it called?

Acadie

> 15. In 1803, Napoléon Bonaparte sold the last part of mainland
> New France to the United States. What is this *transaction*
> known as?

Louisiana Purchase

--
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Erland Sommarskog

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Jul 8, 2015, 5:52:03 AM7/8/15
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> We give you a list of three battles in alphabetical order; you
> list them in chronological order.
>
> 1. Cambrai, Passchendaele, Verdun.

Passchendaele, Cambrai, Verdun

> 2. Borodino, the Nile, Trafalgar.

the Nile, Borodino, Trafalgar

> 3. Salamis, Marathon, Thermopylae.

What alphabet is this? :-) Ah, Greek, but in reverse order.

Thermopylae, Marathon, Salamis

> * Chinese Revolution
>
> 4. The Chinese Civil War (1946-49) was fought by the Communists,
> under Mao and his generals, against the Nationalists. Who was
> the leader of the Nationalists?

Chang Kai-Shek

> 5. Between October 1934 and October 1935, the Red Army of the
> Communist Party of China (forerunner of the People's Liberation
> Army) was forced into a series of retreats in order to evade the
> pursuit of the Kuomintang (or Chinese Nationalist Party army).
> This episode has become part of the mythology of the Communist
> Party of China. What is it known as (in English)?

The Long March

> 6. The Communist Party of China launched an economic and social
> campaign from 1958 to 1961 that aimed to rapidly transform the
> country from an agrarian economy into a socialist society through
> industrialization and collectivization. The campaign caused the
> Great Chinese Famine. What was the campaign called (in English)?

The Giant Leap

> 8. Swedish passenger ship MS Stockholm, 1956.

Andrea Doria

> 9. British submarine HMS Conqueror, 1982.

General Belgrano

> 10. Thein Sein.

Burma

> 11. Nursultan Nazarbayev.

Kazakhstan

> 12. Umar Al-Bashir.

Sudan

> 13. The last remnant of New France is a self-governing "overseas
> collectivity" of France, situated in the northwestern Atlantic
> Ocean near Canada. What is its name?

St Martin

> 14. This colony of New France in northeastern North America included
> parts of eastern Quebec, the Maritime provinces, and modern-day
> Maine to the Kennebec River. What was it called?

Acadie

> 15. In 1803, Napoléon Bonaparte sold the last part of mainland
> New France to the United States. What is this *transaction*
> known as?

The Louisana Purchase



--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esq...@sommarskog.se

Peter Smyth

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Mark Brader wrote:

> ** Final, Round 2 - History
>
> * Battle Order
>
> We give you a list of three battles in alphabetical order; you
> list them in chronological order.
>
> 1. Cambrai, Passchendaele, Verdun.
> 2. Borodino, the Nile, Trafalgar.
> 3. Salamis, Marathon, Thermopylae.
>
>
> * Chinese Revolution
>
> 4. The Chinese Civil War (1946-49) was fought by the Communists,
> under Mao and his generals, against the Nationalists. Who was
> the leader of the Nationalists?
Chang Kai-Shek
> 5. Between October 1934 and October 1935, the Red Army of the
> Communist Party of China (forerunner of the People's Liberation
> Army) was forced into a series of retreats in order to evade the
> pursuit of the Kuomintang (or Chinese Nationalist Party army).
> This episode has become part of the mythology of the Communist
> Party of China. What is it known as (in English)?
>
> 6. The Communist Party of China launched an economic and social
> campaign from 1958 to 1961 that aimed to rapidly transform the
> country from an agrarian economy into a socialist society through
> industrialization and collectivization. The campaign caused the
> Great Chinese Famine. What was the campaign called (in English)?
Great Leap Forwards
>
> * Ships That Went Down Thanks to Another
>
> We give you the vessel responsible and the year of the sinking;
> you name the ship that sank.
>
> 7. Norwegian cargo ship SS Storstad, 1914.
> 8. Swedish passenger ship MS Stockholm, 1956.
> 9. British submarine HMS Conqueror, 1982.
Belgrano
>
>
> * My Favorite Dictator
>
> We give you the name of a dictator currently in power. (They are
> all still in power as this round is posted.) You name the country.
> Most of these people were "elected", but it is generally believed
> that there was not actually any choice.
>
> 10. Thein Sein.
Myanmar
> 11. Nursultan Nazarbayev.
Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan
> 12. Umar Al-Bashir.
Sudan
>
> * New France
>
> 13. The last remnant of New France is a self-governing "overseas
> collectivity" of France, situated in the northwestern Atlantic
> Ocean near Canada. What is its name?
St Pierre and Miquelon
> 14. This colony of New France in northeastern North America included
> parts of eastern Quebec, the Maritime provinces, and modern-day
> Maine to the Kennebec River. What was it called?
>
> 15. In 1803, Napoléon Bonaparte sold the last part of mainland
> New France to the United States. What is this transaction
> known as?
Louisiana Purchase

Peter Smyth

Marc Dashevsky

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In article <POWdnY6p_NQuPQHI...@vex.net>, m...@vex.net says...
> ** Final, Round 2 - History
>
> * Battle Order
>
> We give you a list of three battles in alphabetical order; you
> list them in chronological order.
>
> 1. Cambrai, Passchendaele, Verdun.
Cambrai, Passchendaele, Verdun

> 2. Borodino, the Nile, Trafalgar.
Borodino, the Nile, Trafalgar

> 3. Salamis, Marathon, Thermopylae.
Marathon, Thermopylae, Salamis

> * Chinese Revolution
>
> 4. The Chinese Civil War (1946-49) was fought by the Communists,
> under Mao and his generals, against the Nationalists. Who was
> the leader of the Nationalists?
Chiang Kai Shek

> 5. Between October 1934 and October 1935, the Red Army of the
> Communist Party of China (forerunner of the People's Liberation
> Army) was forced into a series of retreats in order to evade the
> pursuit of the Kuomintang (or Chinese Nationalist Party army).
> This episode has become part of the mythology of the Communist
> Party of China. What is it known as (in English)?
Long March

> 6. The Communist Party of China launched an economic and social
> campaign from 1958 to 1961 that aimed to rapidly transform the
> country from an agrarian economy into a socialist society through
> industrialization and collectivization. The campaign caused the
> Great Chinese Famine. What was the campaign called (in English)?
Great Leap Forward

> * Ships That Went Down Thanks to Another
>
> We give you the vessel responsible and the year of the sinking;
> you name the ship that sank.
>
> 7. Norwegian cargo ship SS Storstad, 1914.
> 8. Swedish passenger ship MS Stockholm, 1956.
Andrea Doria

> 9. British submarine HMS Conqueror, 1982.
>
>
> * My Favorite Dictator
>
> We give you the name of a dictator currently in power. (They are
> all still in power as this round is posted.) You name the country.
> Most of these people were "elected", but it is generally believed
> that there was not actually any choice.
>
> 10. Thein Sein.
Burma

> 11. Nursultan Nazarbayev.
Kyrgyzstan; Tajikistan

> 12. Umar Al-Bashir.
Somalia; Sudan

> * New France
>
> 13. The last remnant of New France is a self-governing "overseas
> collectivity" of France, situated in the northwestern Atlantic
> Ocean near Canada. What is its name?
St. Pierre and Miquelon

> 14. This colony of New France in northeastern North America included
> parts of eastern Quebec, the Maritime provinces, and modern-day
> Maine to the Kennebec River. What was it called?
Acadia [the source of Cajuns]

> 15. In 1803, Napoléon Bonaparte sold the last part of mainland
> New France to the United States. What is this *transaction*
> known as?
Louisiana Purchase [where many Cajuns ended up]



swp

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On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 12:01:56 AM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2015-03-30,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.

noted

> ** Final, Round 2 - History
>
> * Battle Order
>
> We give you a list of three battles in alphabetical order; you
> list them in chronological order.

many of these lasted months. are you using the start date or the end date? since I am taking wags at most of these, I honestly don't know if they overlap or not.

> 1. Cambrai, Passchendaele, Verdun.

verdun, cambrai, passchendaele

> 2. Borodino, the Nile, Trafalgar.

the nile, trafalgar, borodino

> 3. Salamis, Marathon, Thermopylae.

salamis, marathon, thermopylae

>
>
> * Chinese Revolution
>
> 4. The Chinese Civil War (1946-49) was fought by the Communists,
> under Mao and his generals, against the Nationalists. Who was
> the leader of the Nationalists?

chiang kaishek

> 5. Between October 1934 and October 1935, the Red Army of the
> Communist Party of China (forerunner of the People's Liberation
> Army) was forced into a series of retreats in order to evade the
> pursuit of the Kuomintang (or Chinese Nationalist Party army).
> This episode has become part of the mythology of the Communist
> Party of China. What is it known as (in English)?

the long march

> 6. The Communist Party of China launched an economic and social
> campaign from 1958 to 1961 that aimed to rapidly transform the
> country from an agrarian economy into a socialist society through
> industrialization and collectivization. The campaign caused the
> Great Chinese Famine. What was the campaign called (in English)?

the great leap forward

[note: there is chaos under the heavens, and all is well.]

> * Ships That Went Down Thanks to Another
>
> We give you the vessel responsible and the year of the sinking;
> you name the ship that sank.
>
> 7. Norwegian cargo ship SS Storstad, 1914.

...

> 8. Swedish passenger ship MS Stockholm, 1956.

andrea doria?

> 9. British submarine HMS Conqueror, 1982.

general belgrano (in the falkland islands war)

>
>
> * My Favorite Dictator

*me!* pick me! pick me!

> We give you the name of a dictator currently in power. (They are
> all still in power as this round is posted.) You name the country.
> Most of these people were "elected", but it is generally believed
> that there was not actually any choice.
>
> 10. Thein Sein.

burma

> 11. Nursultan Nazarbayev.

kazakhstan

> 12. Umar Al-Bashir.

sudan

>
>
> * New France
>
> 13. The last remnant of New France is a self-governing "overseas
> collectivity" of France, situated in the northwestern Atlantic
> Ocean near Canada. What is its name?

quebec

> 14. This colony of New France in northeastern North America included
> parts of eastern Quebec, the Maritime provinces, and modern-day
> Maine to the Kennebec River. What was it called?

quebec

> 15. In 1803, Napoléon Bonaparte sold the last part of mainland
> New France to the United States. What is this *transaction*
> known as?

the louisiana purchase

swp

Jason Kreitzer

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On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 12:01:56 AM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2015-03-30,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days (from the first posting).
>
> All questions were written by members of MI5, and are used here by
> permission, but have been reformatted and may have been retyped
> and/or edited by me. For further information see my 2015-02-23
> companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian Inquisition
> (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> ** Final, Round 2 - History
>
> * Battle Order
>
> We give you a list of three battles in alphabetical order; you
> list them in chronological order.
>
> 1. Cambrai, Passchendaele, Verdun.
> 2. Borodino, the Nile, Trafalgar.
> 3. Salamis, Marathon, Thermopylae.
1.Passchendaele, Cambrai, Verdun
2.The Nile, Borodino, Trafalgar
3.Thermopylae, Marathon, Salamis
>
>
> * Chinese Revolution
>
> 4. The Chinese Civil War (1946-49) was fought by the Communists,
> under Mao and his generals, against the Nationalists. Who was
> the leader of the Nationalists?
Chang Kai-Shek
> 5. Between October 1934 and October 1935, the Red Army of the
> Communist Party of China (forerunner of the People's Liberation
> Army) was forced into a series of retreats in order to evade the
> pursuit of the Kuomintang (or Chinese Nationalist Party army).
> This episode has become part of the mythology of the Communist
> Party of China. What is it known as (in English)?
>
> 6. The Communist Party of China launched an economic and social
> campaign from 1958 to 1961 that aimed to rapidly transform the
> country from an agrarian economy into a socialist society through
> industrialization and collectivization. The campaign caused the
> Great Chinese Famine. What was the campaign called (in English)?
The Great Leap Forward
>
> * Ships That Went Down Thanks to Another
>
> We give you the vessel responsible and the year of the sinking;
> you name the ship that sank.
>
> 7. Norwegian cargo ship SS Storstad, 1914.
> 8. Swedish passenger ship MS Stockholm, 1956.
> 9. British submarine HMS Conqueror, 1982.
>
>
> * My Favorite Dictator
>
> We give you the name of a dictator currently in power. (They are
> all still in power as this round is posted.) You name the country.
> Most of these people were "elected", but it is generally believed
> that there was not actually any choice.
>
> 10. Thein Sein.
Myanmar
> 11. Nursultan Nazarbayev.
Turkmenistan?
> 12. Umar Al-Bashir.
Sudan
>
>
> * New France
>
> 13. The last remnant of New France is a self-governing "overseas
> collectivity" of France, situated in the northwestern Atlantic
> Ocean near Canada. What is its name?
>
> 14. This colony of New France in northeastern North America included
> parts of eastern Quebec, the Maritime provinces, and modern-day
> Maine to the Kennebec River. What was it called?
>
> 15. In 1803, Napoléon Bonaparte sold the last part of mainland
> New France to the United States. What is this *transaction*
> known as?
The Louisiana Purchase

Pete

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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:POWdnY6p_NQuPQHInZ2dnUU7-
fmd...@vex.net:

> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2015-03-30,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days (from the first posting).
>
> All questions were written by members of MI5, and are used here by
> permission, but have been reformatted and may have been retyped
> and/or edited by me. For further information see my 2015-02-23
> companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian Inquisition
> (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> ** Final, Round 2 - History
>
> * Battle Order
>
> We give you a list of three battles in alphabetical order; you
> list them in chronological order.
>
> 1. Cambrai, Passchendaele, Verdun.

Verdun, Cambrai, Passchendaele

> 2. Borodino, the Nile, Trafalgar.
> 3. Salamis, Marathon, Thermopylae.
>
>
> * Chinese Revolution
>
> 4. The Chinese Civil War (1946-49) was fought by the Communists,
> under Mao and his generals, against the Nationalists. Who was
> the leader of the Nationalists?

Chiang Kai Shek

>
> 5. Between October 1934 and October 1935, the Red Army of the
> Communist Party of China (forerunner of the People's Liberation
> Army) was forced into a series of retreats in order to evade the
> pursuit of the Kuomintang (or Chinese Nationalist Party army).
> This episode has become part of the mythology of the Communist
> Party of China. What is it known as (in English)?
>
> 6. The Communist Party of China launched an economic and social
> campaign from 1958 to 1961 that aimed to rapidly transform the
> country from an agrarian economy into a socialist society through
> industrialization and collectivization. The campaign caused the
> Great Chinese Famine. What was the campaign called (in English)?

Cultural Revolution

>
>
> * Ships That Went Down Thanks to Another
>
> We give you the vessel responsible and the year of the sinking;
> you name the ship that sank.
>
> 7. Norwegian cargo ship SS Storstad, 1914.
> 8. Swedish passenger ship MS Stockholm, 1956.

Andrea Doria

> 9. British submarine HMS Conqueror, 1982.
>
>
> * My Favorite Dictator
>
> We give you the name of a dictator currently in power. (They are
> all still in power as this round is posted.) You name the country.
> Most of these people were "elected", but it is generally believed
> that there was not actually any choice.
>
> 10. Thein Sein.

Myanmar

> 11. Nursultan Nazarbayev.

Turkmenistan

> 12. Umar Al-Bashir.

Syria

>
>
> * New France
>
> 13. The last remnant of New France is a self-governing "overseas
> collectivity" of France, situated in the northwestern Atlantic
> Ocean near Canada. What is its name?

St Pierre et Miquelon

>
> 14. This colony of New France in northeastern North America included
> parts of eastern Quebec, the Maritime provinces, and modern-day
> Maine to the Kennebec River. What was it called?
>
> 15. In 1803, Napoléon Bonaparte sold the last part of mainland
> New France to the United States. What is this *transaction*
> known as?

The Louisiana Purchase

>

Pete

Dan Tilque

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Mark Brader wrote:
>
>
> ** Final, Round 2 - History
>
> * Battle Order
>
> We give you a list of three battles in alphabetical order; you
> list them in chronological order.
>
> 1. Cambrai, Passchendaele, Verdun.
> 2. Borodino, the Nile, Trafalgar.

The Nile, Trafalgar, Borodino

> 3. Salamis, Marathon, Thermopylae.

Salamis, Thermopylae, Marathon

>
>
> * Chinese Revolution
>
> 4. The Chinese Civil War (1946-49) was fought by the Communists,
> under Mao and his generals, against the Nationalists. Who was
> the leader of the Nationalists?

Chiang Kai-shek

>
> 5. Between October 1934 and October 1935, the Red Army of the
> Communist Party of China (forerunner of the People's Liberation
> Army) was forced into a series of retreats in order to evade the
> pursuit of the Kuomintang (or Chinese Nationalist Party army).
> This episode has become part of the mythology of the Communist
> Party of China. What is it known as (in English)?

Long March

>
> 6. The Communist Party of China launched an economic and social
> campaign from 1958 to 1961 that aimed to rapidly transform the
> country from an agrarian economy into a socialist society through
> industrialization and collectivization. The campaign caused the
> Great Chinese Famine. What was the campaign called (in English)?

Great Leap Forward

>
>
> * Ships That Went Down Thanks to Another
>
> We give you the vessel responsible and the year of the sinking;
> you name the ship that sank.
>
> 7. Norwegian cargo ship SS Storstad, 1914.

Olympic ??

> 8. Swedish passenger ship MS Stockholm, 1956.

Andrea Doria

> 9. British submarine HMS Conqueror, 1982.

Belgrano

>
>
> * My Favorite Dictator
>
> We give you the name of a dictator currently in power. (They are
> all still in power as this round is posted.) You name the country.
> Most of these people were "elected", but it is generally believed
> that there was not actually any choice.
>
> 10. Thein Sein.
> 11. Nursultan Nazarbayev.
> 12. Umar Al-Bashir.

Kazakhstan; Uzbekistan

>
>
> * New France
>
> 13. The last remnant of New France is a self-governing "overseas
> collectivity" of France, situated in the northwestern Atlantic
> Ocean near Canada. What is its name?

St Pierre and Miquelon

>
> 14. This colony of New France in northeastern North America included
> parts of eastern Quebec, the Maritime provinces, and modern-day
> Maine to the Kennebec River. What was it called?

Acadia

>
> 15. In 1803, Napoléon Bonaparte sold the last part of mainland
> New France to the United States. What is this *transaction*
> known as?

Louisiana Purchase



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> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
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> Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
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>
> All questions were written by members of MI5, and are used here by
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> and/or edited by me. For further information see my 2015-02-23
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> (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> ** Final, Round 2 - History
>
> * Battle Order
>
> We give you a list of three battles in alphabetical order; you
> list them in chronological order.
>
> 1. Cambrai, Passchendaele, Verdun

Verdun, Cambrai, Passchendaele,

> 2. Borodino, the Nile, Trafalgar.
the Nile, Trafalgar, Borodino

> 3. Salamis, Marathon, Thermopylae.

Salamis, Thermopylae, Marathon,

>
>
> * Chinese Revolution
>
> 4. The Chinese Civil War (1946-49) was fought by the Communists,
> under Mao and his generals, against the Nationalists. Who was
> the leader of the Nationalists?

Chang Kai-Check


>
> 5. Between October 1934 and October 1935, the Red Army of the
> Communist Party of China (forerunner of the People's Liberation
> Army) was forced into a series of retreats in order to evade the
> pursuit of the Kuomintang (or Chinese Nationalist Party army).
> This episode has become part of the mythology of the Communist
> Party of China. What is it known as (in English)?

The Long March

>
> 6. The Communist Party of China launched an economic and social
> campaign from 1958 to 1961 that aimed to rapidly transform the
> country from an agrarian economy into a socialist society through
> industrialization and collectivization. The campaign caused the
> Great Chinese Famine. What was the campaign called (in English)?
>

The Giant Laep



>
> * Ships That Went Down Thanks to Another
>
> We give you the vessel responsible and the year of the sinking;
> you name the ship that sank.
>
> 7. Norwegian cargo ship SS Storstad, 1914.
> 8. Swedish passenger ship MS Stockholm, 1956.

Andrea Doria


> 9. British submarine HMS Conqueror, 1982.

>
>
> * My Favorite Dictator
>
> We give you the name of a dictator currently in power. (They are
> all still in power as this round is posted.) You name the country.
> Most of these people were "elected", but it is generally believed
> that there was not actually any choice.
>
> 10. Thein Sein.
Rangoon

> 11. Nursultan Nazarbayev.

Uzbekistan

> 12. Umar Al-Bashir.
Oman


>
>
> * New France
>
> 13. The last remnant of New France is a self-governing "overseas
> collectivity" of France, situated in the northwestern Atlantic
> Ocean near Canada. What is its name?

Il'd Madelain ?

>
> 14. This colony of New France in northeastern North America included
> parts of eastern Quebec, the Maritime provinces, and modern-day
> Maine to the Kennebec River. What was it called?
>
> 15. In 1803, Napoléon Bonaparte sold the last part of mainland
> New France to the United States. What is this *transaction*
> known as?
>


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>> 10. Thein Sein.
> Rangoon

So, I did not want to write Burma, because
it has a new name.

Rangoon - But wait - that was the capital ...

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Erland Sommarskog

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Yes, *was*.

Björn Lundin

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On 2015-07-09 23:48, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> Björn Lundin (b.f.l...@gmail.com) writes:

>> Rangoon - But wait - that was the capital ...
>>
>
> Yes, *was*.
>

Good catch. I did not know that they
changed capital. Seems like it is
time to study Asian and African geography again.
It is a moving target.

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Björn Lundin:
>>> Rangoon - But wait - that was the capital ...

Erland Sommarskog:
>> Yes, *was*.

Björn Lundin:
> Good catch. I did not know that they changed capital.

Not only that, but they renamed the old one.

> Seems like it is time to study Asian and African geography again.
> It is a moving target.

If we're talking about new or renamed countries and new or renamed
capitals, and if we take the "before" date as 1989, then I think
Europe may be the continent with the most changes over the period.
I'm not going to try right now to construct a chronology to check
on that, though.
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Erland Sommarskog

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> Not only that, but they renamed the old one.

At least they changed the spelling. Presumably to reflect local
pronounciation.

> If we're talking about new or renamed countries and new or renamed
> capitals, and if we take the "before" date as 1989, then I think
> Europe may be the continent with the most changes over the period.
> I'm not going to try right now to construct a chronology to check
> on that, though.

If we overlook new capitals that have arisen because a new country was
established, I can think of five or arguably six changes/renamings in
Europe since 1900, whereof all but the arguable one were before 1930:

Norway: Christiania -> Oslo
Russia: St Petersburg -> Petrograd
USSR: Petrograd -> Moscow
Lithuania: Vilnius -> Kaunas
Turkey: Istanbul -> Ankara
Germany: Bonn -> Berlin

I'm not including temporary changes during WWII which certainly would add
a few more. Also, Montenegro has changed captials during the 20th century,
but I believe that happened when it was part of Yugoslavia.

Calvin

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On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 2:01:56 PM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:

> ** Final, Round 2 - History
>
> * Battle Order
>
> We give you a list of three battles in alphabetical order; you
> list them in chronological order.
>
> 1. Cambrai, Passchendaele, Verdun.
> 2. Borodino, the Nile, Trafalgar.
> 3. Salamis, Marathon, Thermopylae.
>
>
> * Chinese Revolution
>
> 4. The Chinese Civil War (1946-49) was fought by the Communists,
> under Mao and his generals, against the Nationalists. Who was
> the leader of the Nationalists?

Sun Yat Sen, Chiang Kai Shek


> 5. Between October 1934 and October 1935, the Red Army of the
> Communist Party of China (forerunner of the People's Liberation
> Army) was forced into a series of retreats in order to evade the
> pursuit of the Kuomintang (or Chinese Nationalist Party army).
> This episode has become part of the mythology of the Communist
> Party of China. What is it known as (in English)?

The Long March

> 6. The Communist Party of China launched an economic and social
> campaign from 1958 to 1961 that aimed to rapidly transform the
> country from an agrarian economy into a socialist society through
> industrialization and collectivization. The campaign caused the
> Great Chinese Famine. What was the campaign called (in English)?

The Great Leap Forward

> * Ships That Went Down Thanks to Another
>
> We give you the vessel responsible and the year of the sinking;
> you name the ship that sank.
>
> 7. Norwegian cargo ship SS Storstad, 1914.
> 8. Swedish passenger ship MS Stockholm, 1956.
> 9. British submarine HMS Conqueror, 1982.

Belgrano


> * My Favorite Dictator
>
> We give you the name of a dictator currently in power. (They are
> all still in power as this round is posted.) You name the country.
> Most of these people were "elected", but it is generally believed
> that there was not actually any choice.
>
> 10. Thein Sein.

Cambodia, Burma

> 11. Nursultan Nazarbayev.

Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan

> 12. Umar Al-Bashir.

Sudan

> * New France
>
> 13. The last remnant of New France is a self-governing "overseas
> collectivity" of France, situated in the northwestern Atlantic
> Ocean near Canada. What is its name?
>
> 14. This colony of New France in northeastern North America included
> parts of eastern Quebec, the Maritime provinces, and modern-day
> Maine to the Kennebec River. What was it called?
>
> 15. In 1803, Napoléon Bonaparte sold the last part of mainland
> New France to the United States. What is this *transaction*
> known as?

Louisiana Purchase

cheers,
calvin

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On 2015-07-10 22:16, Mark Brader wrote:
> Björn Lundin:
>> Seems like it is time to study Asian and African geography again.
>> It is a moving target.
>
> If we're talking about new or renamed countries and new or renamed
> capitals, and if we take the "before" date as 1989, then I think
> Europe may be the continent with the most changes over the period.

Yes - but European changes tends to have more press coverage.
Especially in Europe, I'd guess.
So - me beeing European - I get more press coverage when
new countries arise, and capitals change.
Bonnn -> Berlin surely got more attention here
than Rangoon( or Yangon) -> Naypyidaw

So 'far-away and exotic continents' needs more
attention form me n order to keep up with changes.

> I'm not going to try right now to construct a chronology to check
> on that, though.

That is an interesting theme for a quiz

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Mark Brader:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2015-03-30,
> and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information
> see my 2015-02-23 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".


> ** Final, Round 2 - History

> * Battle Order

> We give you a list of three battles in alphabetical order; you
> list them in chronological order.

> 1. Cambrai, Passchendaele, Verdun.

Verdun, Passchendaele, Cambrai. (1916, 1917, see below.)
4 for Dan Blum.

It seems there were actually two Battles of Cambrai; my apologies
for not knowing this. But it doesn't affect the question: the first
one started a few days after Passchendaele ended, and the second
one was in 1918.

> 2. Borodino, the Nile, Trafalgar.

Nile, Trafalgar, Borodino. (1798, 1804, 1812.) 4 for Dan Blum,
Stephen, Dan Tilque, and Björn.

> 3. Salamis, Marathon, Thermopylae.

Marathon, Thermopylae, Salamis. (490 BC; August, 480 BC; September,
480 BC.) 4 for Joshua and Marc.

My apologies also for the interesting "alphabetical" order. But this
also did not affect the question.


> * Chinese Revolution

> 4. The Chinese Civil War (1946-49) was fought by the Communists,
> under Mao and his generals, against the Nationalists. Who was
> the leader of the Nationalists?

Chiang Kai-Shek is the usual spelling in English. Entrants found
that one and 5 others. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Erland, Peter, Marc,
Stephen, Jason, Pete, Dan Tilque, and Björn. 2 for Calvin.

> 5. Between October 1934 and October 1935, the Red Army of the
> Communist Party of China (forerunner of the People's Liberation
> Army) was forced into a series of retreats in order to evade the
> pursuit of the Kuomintang (or Chinese Nationalist Party army).
> This episode has become part of the mythology of the Communist
> Party of China. What is it known as (in English)?

The Long March. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Erland, Marc, Stephen,
Dan Tilque, Björn, and Calvin.

> 6. The Communist Party of China launched an economic and social
> campaign from 1958 to 1961 that aimed to rapidly transform the
> country from an agrarian economy into a socialist society through
> industrialization and collectivization. The campaign caused the
> Great Chinese Famine. What was the campaign called (in English)?

The Great Leap Forward. I did not accept "Giant Leap" (without
"Forward"). 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Peter, Marc, Stephen, Jason,
Dan Tilque, and Calvin.


> * Ships That Went Down Thanks to Another

> We give you the vessel responsible and the year of the sinking;
> you name the ship that sank.

> 7. Norwegian cargo ship SS Storstad, 1914.

RMS Empress of Ireland. (Collided in fog in the St. Lawrence River
near Quebec City.) 1,000 dead. You'd think someone would know it.

> 8. Swedish passenger ship MS Stockholm, 1956.

SS Andrea Doria. (Collided in fog off the shore of Nantucket.)
4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Erland, Marc, Stephen, Pete, Dan Tilque,
and Björn.

> 9. British submarine HMS Conqueror, 1982.

ARA General Belgrano. (Torpedoed between Argentina and the
Falkland Is.) I scored "Belgrano" as almost correct. 4 for Joshua,
Erland, and Stephen. 3 for Peter, Dan Tilque, and Calvin.


> * My Favorite Dictator

> We give you the name of a dictator currently in power. (They are
> all still in power as this round is posted.) You name the country.
> Most of these people were "elected", but it is generally believed
> that there was not actually any choice.

> 10. Thein Sein.

Myanmar (Burma). 4 for Joshua, Erland, Peter, Marc, Stephen, Jason,
and Pete. 2 for Calvin.

> 11. Nursultan Nazarbayev.

Kazakhstan. 4 for Dan Blum, Erland, and Stephen. 2 for Joshua
and Calvin.

> 12. Umar Al-Bashir.

Sudan. 4 for Joshua, Erland, Peter, Stephen, Jason, and Calvin.
2 for Marc.


> * New France

> 13. The last remnant of New France is a self-governing "overseas
> collectivity" of France, situated in the northwestern Atlantic
> Ocean near Canada. What is its name?

St-Pierre et Miquelon. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Peter, Marc, Pete,
and Dan Tilque.

It consists of two small islands off the south coast of Newfoundland
and has about 6,500 inhabitants.

> 14. This colony of New France in northeastern North America included
> parts of eastern Quebec, the Maritime provinces, and modern-day
> Maine to the Kennebec River. What was it called?

Acadie (Acadia).
4_for Joshua, Erland, Marc, and_Dan_Tilque.

> 15. In 1803, Napoléon Bonaparte sold the last part of mainland
> New France to the United States. What is this *transaction*
> known as?

The Louisiana Purchase. 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Erland, Peter,
Marc, Stephen, Jason, Pete, Dan Tilque, and Calvin.


Scores, if there are no errors:

Joshua Kreitzer 46
Stephen Perry 40
Marc Dashevsky 38
Erland Sommarskog 36
Dan Blum 36
Dan Tilque 35
Peter Smyth 27
"Calvin" 25
Jason Kreitzer 20
Pete Gayde 20
Björn Lundin 16

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Erland Sommarskog

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>> 6. The Communist Party of China launched an economic and social
>> campaign from 1958 to 1961 that aimed to rapidly transform the
>> country from an agrarian economy into a socialist society through
>> industrialization and collectivization. The campaign caused the
>> Great Chinese Famine. What was the campaign called (in English)?
>
> The Great Leap Forward. I did not accept "Giant Leap" (without
> "Forward"). 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Peter, Marc, Stephen, Jason,
> Dan Tilque, and Calvin.

In Swedish the campaign is known as "Stora språnget" without any word
for forward. Reviewing the articles about the Giant Leap Forward in
various languages on Wikipedia, I find that there is a mix, but it
seems that majority has the corresponding to "forward" in the title.
For instance, the Danish name is "Det store spring fremad".

In any case, the question asked for the English name, so there is little
to object on the ruling.

Mark Brader

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Erland Sommarskog:
> In Swedish the campaign is known as "Stora språnget" without any word
> for forward.

This was obvious.

> In any case, the question asked for the English name, so there is little
> to object on the ruling.

Exactly.
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Mark Brader:
> If we're talking about new or renamed countries and new or renamed
> capitals, and if we take the "before" date as 1989, then I think
> Europe may be the continent with the most changes over the period.
> I'm not going to try right now to construct a chronology to check
> on that, though.

Changes of capitals were too hard, but I did try to construct a list
of countries created, renamed, or eliminated since 1950. "Renamed"
is based on the names usually used in English, not on local names.

If someone else would like to do the same for capitals, it might be
interesting.

For new countries I generally went by the date of independence, or
the date when independence was *recognized*, as given in the CIA
World Factbook. Some other details are based on Wikipedia. I may
have missed some renamed countries. (I know I missed one; Abyssinia
became Ethiopia, but neither source gives a specific date and this
seems to have been a gradual transition, long after the local name
was already Ethiopia.)

I counted the three Caucasus republics as "Asia+Europe" rather than
assigning them to either continent alone. I did not count colonies
that were promoted to become part of the parent country, like French
Guiana, because I wasn't sure if I could construct a good list of those
with dates.

1950s: 6 Africa, 2 Asia.
1960s: 34 Africa, 4 Asia, 3 Caribbean, 2 Pacific, 2 Europe, 1 South America.
1970s: 12 Africa, 7 Pacific, 6 Asia, 5 Caribbean, 1 South America.
1980s: 3 Pacific, 3 Asia, 3 Africa, 2 Caribbean, 1 North America.
1990s: 13 Europe, 5 Asia+Europe, 5 Asia, 3 Africa, 2 Pacific,
2000s: 5 Europe.
2010s: 2 Africa.

Here's the full list that the above is a summary of, but please let's
not quibble over specific single items. First, it was done quickly;
second, there may be many cases where the situation is more complicated
than the CIAWF or other sources indicate.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

1951 Africa Libya independent (from trusteeship)
1953 Asia Cambodia independent (from France)
1956 Africa Sudan independent (from Egypt + UK)
1956 Africa Morocco independent (from France)
1956 Africa Tunisia independent (from France)
1957 Africa Ghana independent (from UK)
1957 Asia Malaysia independent (from UK)
1958 Africa Guinea independent (from France)
1960 Africa DR Congo independent (from Belgium)
1960 Africa Central African Republic independent (from France)
1960 Africa Chad independent (from France)
1960 Africa Dahomey independent (from France)
1960 Africa Gabon independent (from France)
1960 Africa Ivory Coast independent (from France)
1960 Africa Madagascar independent (from France)
1960 Africa Mali independent (from France)
1960 Africa Mauritania independent (from France)
1960 Africa Niger independent (from France)
1960 Africa R Congo independent (from France)
1960 Africa Senegal independent (from France)
1960 Africa Upper Volta independent (from France)
1960 Africa Somalia independent (from UK + Italy)
1960 Africa Nigeria independent (from UK)
1960 Africa Cameroon independent (from trusteeship)
1960 Africa Togo independent (from trusteeship)
1960 Europe Cyprus independent (from UK)
1961 Africa Sierra Leone independent (from UK)
1961 Africa Tanganyika independent (from trusteeship)
1961 Asia Kuwait independent (from UK)
1962 Africa Algeria independent (from France)
1962 Africa Uganda independent (from UK)
1962 Africa Burundi independent (from trusteeship)
1962 Africa Rwanda independent (from trusteeship)
1962 Caribbean Jamaica independent (from UK)
1962 Caribbean Trinidad & Tobago independent (from UK)
1962 Pacific Western Samoa independent (from trusteeship)
1963 Africa Kenya independent (from UK)
1963 Africa Zanzibar independent (from UK)
1964 Africa Tanzania formed from Tanganyika + Zanzibar
1964 Africa Malawi independent (from UK)
1964 Africa Zambia independent (from UK)
1964 Europe Malta independent (from UK)
1965 Africa Gambia independent (from UK)
1965 Asia Singapore independent (from Malaysia)
1965 Asia Maldives independent (from UK)
1966 Africa Botswana independent (from UK)
1966 Africa Lesotho independent (from UK)
1966 Caribbean Barbados independent (from UK)
1966 SouthAm Guyana independent (from UK)
1967 Asia South Yemen independent (from UK)
1968 Africa Equatorial Guinea independent (from Spain)
1968 Africa Mauritius independent (from UK)
1968 Africa Swaziland independent (from UK)
1968 Pacific Nauru independent (from trusteeship)
1970 Pacific Tonga independent (from UK protectorate)
1970 Pacific Fiji independent (from UK)
1971 Africa DR Congo renamed Zaire
1971 Asia Bangladesh independent (from Pakistan)
1971 Asia Bahrain independent (from UK)
1971 Asia Qatar independent (from UK)
1971 Asia United Arab Emirates independent (from UK)
1972 Asia Ceylon renamed Sri Lanka
1973 Caribbean Bahamas independent (from UK)
1974 Africa Guinea-Bissau independent (from Portugal)
1974 Caribbean Grenada independent (from UK)
1974 Pacific Niue independent (from New Zealand)
1975 Africa Dahomey renamed Benin
1975 Africa Comoros independent (from France)
1975 Africa Angola independent (from Portugal)
1975 Africa Cape Verde independent (from Portugal)
1975 Africa Mozambique independent (from Portugal)
1975 Africa Sao Tome & Principe independent (from Portugal)
1975 Asia Cambodia renamed Kampuchea
1975 Pacific Papua New Guinea independent (from trusteeship)
1975 SouthAm Suriname independent (from Netherlands)
1976 Africa Central African Republic renamed Central African Empire
1976 Africa Seychelles independent (from UK)
1977 Africa Djibouti independent (from France)
1978 Caribbean Dominica independent (from UK)
1978 Pacific Solomon Islands independent (from UK)
1978 Pacific Tuvalu independent (from UK)
1979 Africa Central African Empire renamed Central African Republic
1979 Caribbean St. Lucia independent (from UK)
1979 Caribbean St. Vincent & the Grenadines independent (from UK)
1979 Pacific Kiribati independent (from UK)
1980 Africa Zimbabwe independent (from UK)
1980 Pacific Vanuatu independent (from France + UK)
1981 Caribbean Antigua & Barbuda independent (from UK)
1981 NorthAm Belize independent (from UK)
1983 Caribbean St. Kitts & Nevis independent (from UK)
1984 Africa Upper Volta renamed Burkina Faso
1984 Asia Brunei independent (from UK)
1986 Africa Ivory Coast renamed Cote d'Ivoire
1986 Pacific Marshall Islands independent (from trusteeship)
1986 Pacific Micronesia independent (from trusteeship)
1989 Asia Burma renamed Myanmar
1989 Asia Kampuchea renamed Cambodia
1990 Africa Namibia independent (from South Africa)
1990 Asia Yemen formed from North and South Yemen
1990 Europe Germany formed from East and West Germany
1991 Asia Kyrgyzstan independent (from USSR)
1991 Asia Tajikistan independent (from USSR)
1991 Asia Turkmenistan independent (from USSR)
1991 Asia Uzbekistan independent (from USSR)
1991 Asia+Europe Armenia independent (from USSR)
1991 Asia+Europe Azerbaijan independent (from USSR)
1991 Asia+Europe Georgia independent (from USSR)
1991 Asia+Europe Kazakhstan independent (from USSR)
1991 Asia+Europe Russia independent (from USSR)
1991 Europe Belarus independent (from USSR)
1991 Europe Estonia independent (from USSR)
1991 Europe Latvia independent (from USSR)
1991 Europe Lithuania independent (from USSR)
1991 Europe Moldova independent (from USSR)
1991 Europe Ukraine independent (from USSR)
1991 Europe Croatia independent (from Yugoslavia)
1991 Europe Macedonia independent (from Yugoslavia)
1991 Europe Slovenia independent (from Yugoslavia)
1992 Europe Bosnia & Herzegovina independent (from Yugoslavia)
1993 Africa Eritrea independent (from Ethiopia)
1993 Europe Czech Republic independent (from Czechoslovakia)
1993 Europe Slovakia independent (from Czechoslovakia)
1994 Pacific Palau independent (from trusteeship)
1997 Africa Zaire renamed DR Congo
1997 Pacific Western Samoa renamed Samoa
2002 Europe Timor-Leste (Portugal)
2003 Europe Yugoslavia renamed Serbia & Montenegro
2006 Europe Montenegro independent (from Serbia & Montenegro)
2006 Europe Serbia independent (from Serbia & Montenegro)
2008 Europe Kosovo independent (from Serbia)
2011 Africa South Sudan independent (from Sudan)
2013 Africa Cape Verde renamed Cabo Verde

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> Mark Brader:
>> If we're talking about new or renamed countries and new or renamed
>> capitals, and if we take the "before" date as 1989, then I think
>> Europe may be the continent with the most changes over the period.
>> I'm not going to try right now to construct a chronology to check
>> on that, though.
>
> Changes of capitals were too hard, but I did try to construct a list
> of countries created, renamed, or eliminated since 1950. "Renamed"
> is based on the names usually used in English, not on local names.
>
> If someone else would like to do the same for capitals, it might be
> interesting.

I did some research and found 9 instances where an independent country
outside Europe moved its capital since 1900. There's probably some I missed:

Australia: Melbourne (de facto) -> Canberra 1927 *
Brazil: Rio de Janiero -> Brasilia 1960
Pakistan: Karachi -> Islamabad 1967
Tanzania: Dar es Salaam -> Dodoma 1973 **
Ivory Coast: Abijan -> Yamoussoukro 1983 **
Nigeria: Lagos -> Abuja 1991
Kazakhstan: Almaty -> Astana 1998
Myanmar: Yangon -> Naypyidaw 2005
Palau: Koror -> Ngerulmud 2006

* Apparently Melbourne was never the official capital of Australia, but
that's where Parliament met, so what are you going to call it?

** official capital, but most government offices are still in the old
capital

For virtually all of them (not sure about Tanzania), they built a new
city for the capital. Since Istanbul -> Ankara was counted as European
earlier in the thread, I didn't count it here. But if you want to count
it, that's 10. Either way, it's more than the 6 capital changes in
Europe that Erland listed.

Another one that may happen (although the country's too poor to build a
new city) is South Sudan, which plans to move the capital from Juba to
Ramciel.

I didn't look for capital changes before independence, but will note a
couple of them. I'm sure there were many more.

India: Calcutta -> Delhi -> New Delhi 1911, 1931
Belize: Belize City -> Belmopan 1970

I also didn't look for capital city name changes. A couple I can think
of, Rangoon -> Yangon and Peking -> Beijing, were just changes in
Romanization. I'm not really sure they count as renamings.


--
Dan Tilque

Erland Sommarskog

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Jul 12, 2015, 8:18:49 AM7/12/15
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Dan Tilque (dti...@frontier.com) writes:
> I did some research and found 9 instances where an independent country
> outside Europe moved its capital since 1900. There's probably some I
> missed:

Yes, here are two that you missed - in the same country!

China: Beijing -> Nanjing (1927) -> Beijing (1949)

There is also Chongqing that was the capital from 1937, but as this was due
to the Sino-Japanese war, I prefer not to count it, just I don't count Paris
-> Vichy -> Paris.

There is also Putrajaya in Malaysia, but it only has status of a federative
administrative centre; Kuala Lumpur remains the captial.

> I also didn't look for capital city name changes. A couple I can think
> of, Rangoon -> Yangon and Peking -> Beijing, were just changes in
> Romanization. I'm not really sure they count as renamings.


Yeah, the last item on Mark's list was Cabo Verde renamed from Cape Verde.
That is of course only matter of renaming in the source Mark took the data
from.

Three capital renamings I can think of:
Alma Ata -> Almaty (Kazakhstan)
Frunze -> Bishkek (Kyrgyzsistan)
Salisbury -> Harare (Zimbabwe)

The Kazakh case is obviously pronounciation related, but it is puzzling,
beause "Alma Ata" means "apple father" in Kazakh. Maybe the actual
pronounciation had been reduced, and they decided to change the spelling
according.

Wikipedia says that the name of Frunze was done away with in 1991. As the
Soviet Union dismantled in late december, it seems like that this change
was before independence, but just shortly.

Mark Brader

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Jul 12, 2015, 2:35:58 PM7/12/15
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Dan Tilque:
>> I also didn't look for capital city name changes. A couple I can think
>> of, Rangoon -> Yangon and Peking -> Beijing, were just changes in
>> Romanization. I'm not really sure they count as renamings.

Erland Sommarskog:
> Yeah, the last item on Mark's list was Cabo Verde renamed from Cape Verde.
> That is of course only matter of renaming in the source Mark took the data
> from.

No, it's a matter of an official request for the name Cabo Verde to be
used in all languages. I think Peking was changed the same way; I know
Ivory Coast was.

Incidentally, "Cabo Verde" just means "Green Cape". Why did we adopt
a name where one word was translated and not the other? I have no idea.
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Erland Sommarskog

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Jul 12, 2015, 3:33:14 PM7/12/15
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> No, it's a matter of an official request for the name Cabo Verde to be
> used in all languages. I think Peking was changed the same way; I know
> Ivory Coast was.

That is not going to stop us Swedes from calling them Kapverde(-öarna) and
Elfenbenskusten respectively. And for that matter Peking.

Dan Tilque

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Jul 12, 2015, 4:09:45 PM7/12/15
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Mark Brader wrote:
> Dan Tilque:
>>> I also didn't look for capital city name changes. A couple I can think
>>> of, Rangoon -> Yangon and Peking -> Beijing, were just changes in
>>> Romanization. I'm not really sure they count as renamings.
>
> Erland Sommarskog:
>> Yeah, the last item on Mark's list was Cabo Verde renamed from Cape Verde.
>> That is of course only matter of renaming in the source Mark took the data
>> from.
>
> No, it's a matter of an official request for the name Cabo Verde to be
> used in all languages. I think Peking was changed the same way; I know
> Ivory Coast was.

Peking -> Beijing was a result of the recognition of the Communist
Chinese government, which uses the Pinyin Romanization. Previously, we'd
recognized the RoC (Taiwan) government, who used (still use, AFAIK)
Wade-Giles Romanization. I don't recall if China made an explicit
request or not.

>
> Incidentally, "Cabo Verde" just means "Green Cape". Why did we adopt
> a name where one word was translated and not the other? I have no idea.

Possibly because it's fairly close to the English word. The same occured
with Bombay. That name comes from Bombaim, which is Portuguese for "good
bay".

As far as the Beijing -> Nanjing -> Beijing changes to China's capital,
I thought those were also due to war, or at least which areas of the
country were controlled by the ultimate winner during civil wars.

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Dan Tilque

Erland Sommarskog

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Jul 12, 2015, 5:40:57 PM7/12/15
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Dan Tilque (dti...@frontier.com) writes:
> Peking -> Beijing was a result of the recognition of the Communist
> Chinese government, which uses the Pinyin Romanization. Previously, we'd
> recognized the RoC (Taiwan) government, who used (still use, AFAIK)
> Wade-Giles Romanization. I don't recall if China made an explicit
> request or not.

I believe that this is not only a romanisation thing. Peking is based on
a Cantonese pronounciation, as I recall.

> As far as the Beijing -> Nanjing -> Beijing changes to China's capital,
> I thought those were also due to war, or at least which areas of the
> country were controlled by the ultimate winner during civil wars.

Yes, there were some indications of this in Wikipedia.

There are many cities that have been capitals of China through the
centuries. It was the Mongols who founded Beijing on the remnants of
the Jurched's old capital. When the Mings ousted the Mongol Yuan dynasty,
they move the capital further south, but they were back in the North Capital
a few decades later.
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