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Erland Sommarskog

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Sep 14, 2014, 5:08:26 AM9/14/14
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It's time for another knock-out contest. The first round is open for
anyone. The person who is furthest away from the correct answer is knocked
out. Remaining rounds are only open to those who entered the first
round,saved the person knocked out and then the field is reduced by one
person per round. (Save for the unlikely case that all enter the correct
answer.)

All questions have an answer which is numeric or a date. For all question
I will use the *difference* to determine who is to be knocked out. If two
or entrants are equally far away from the correct answer, the person who
entered last is knocked out.

All questions in this game relates to Sweden one way or another.

Here we go! Question 1:

1) How many stations are there in the Stockholm Underground?

This question is open to 18 Sep, 22:00 Swedish time.

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Björn Lundin

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Sep 14, 2014, 7:00:04 AM9/14/14
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> On 2014-09-14 11:08, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
>All questions in this game relates to Sweden one way or another.

Now or never ...

> 1) How many stations are there in the Stockholm Underground?

92


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Bj�rn Lundin

Peter Smyth

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Sep 14, 2014, 8:22:31 AM9/14/14
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Erland Sommarskog wrote:

> It's time for another knock-out contest. The first round is open for
> anyone. The person who is furthest away from the correct answer is
> knocked out. Remaining rounds are only open to those who entered the
> first round,saved the person knocked out and then the field is
> reduced by one person per round. (Save for the unlikely case that all
> enter the correct answer.)
>
> All questions have an answer which is numeric or a date. For all
> question I will use the difference to determine who is to be knocked
> out. If two or entrants are equally far away from the correct answer,
> the person who entered last is knocked out.
>
> All questions in this game relates to Sweden one way or another.
>
> Here we go! Question 1:
>
> 1) How many stations are there in the Stockholm Underground?

84.

Peter Smyth

Dan Blum

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Sep 14, 2014, 11:04:30 AM9/14/14
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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:
> It's time for another knock-out contest. The first round is open for
> anyone. The person who is furthest away from the correct answer is knocked
> out. Remaining rounds are only open to those who entered the first
> round,saved the person knocked out and then the field is reduced by one
> person per round. (Save for the unlikely case that all enter the correct
> answer.)

> All questions have an answer which is numeric or a date. For all question
> I will use the *difference* to determine who is to be knocked out. If two
> or entrants are equally far away from the correct answer, the person who
> entered last is knocked out.

> All questions in this game relates to Sweden one way or another.

> Here we go! Question 1:

> 1) How many stations are there in the Stockholm Underground?

92

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Mark Brader

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Sep 14, 2014, 1:45:46 PM9/14/14
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Erland Sommarskog:
> 1) How many stations are there in the Stockholm Underground?

Three lines, fairly long, some with branches -- I'll try 65.
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Jeffrey Turner

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Sep 14, 2014, 6:18:24 PM9/14/14
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57

--Jeff

Rob Parker

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Sep 14, 2014, 6:43:10 PM9/14/14
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> 1) How many stations are there in the Stockholm Underground?

142


Rob

Marc Dashevsky

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Sep 14, 2014, 6:35:21 PM9/14/14
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In article <XnsA3A87153F...@127.0.0.1>, esq...@sommarskog.se says...
45




Russ

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Sep 14, 2014, 8:27:47 PM9/14/14
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99


Russ

David B

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Sep 15, 2014, 7:05:16 AM9/15/14
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100

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David

Dan Tilque

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Sep 16, 2014, 6:22:21 AM9/16/14
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Erland Sommarskog wrote:
>
> All questions in this game relates to Sweden one way or another.

answer = rand();

>
> Here we go! Question 1:
>
> 1) How many stations are there in the Stockholm Underground?

172

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Dan Tilque

Calvin

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Sep 16, 2014, 5:13:22 PM9/16/14
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On Sunday, September 14, 2014 7:08:26 PM UTC+10, Erland Sommarskog wrote:

> 1) How many stations are there in the Stockholm Underground?

99

cheers,
calvin

swp

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Sep 16, 2014, 9:35:18 PM9/16/14
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100

swp

Pete

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Sep 17, 2014, 8:06:19 PM9/17/14
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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote in
news:XnsA3A87153F...@127.0.0.1:

> It's time for another knock-out contest. The first round is open for
> anyone. The person who is furthest away from the correct answer is
> knocked out. Remaining rounds are only open to those who entered the
> first round,saved the person knocked out and then the field is reduced
> by one person per round. (Save for the unlikely case that all enter
> the correct answer.)
>
> All questions have an answer which is numeric or a date. For all
> question I will use the *difference* to determine who is to be knocked
> out. If two or entrants are equally far away from the correct answer,
> the person who entered last is knocked out.
>
> All questions in this game relates to Sweden one way or another.
>
> Here we go! Question 1:
>
> 1) How many stations are there in the Stockholm Underground?

90

>
> This question is open to 18 Sep, 22:00 Swedish time.
>

Pete

Erland Sommarskog

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Sep 18, 2014, 4:08:29 PM9/18/14
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I see 13 entrants, nice! The theme was designed so that everyone would
have to make reasonable guesses, but with Bj�rn Lundin's unexpected
return to the group after having been away for quite some time, there
is an obvious candidate for the final winner. But we shall see. For the
first question, there were several entrants that were closer to the correct
answer.

Marc Dashevsky 45 -55
Jeffery Turner 57 -43
Mark Brader 65 -35
Peter Smyth 84 -16
Pete 90 -10
Dan Blum 92 -8
Bj�rn Lundin 92 -8
Calvin 99 -1
Russ 99 -1
Stephen W Perry 100 CORRECT!
David B 100 CORRECT!
Rob Parker 142 +42
Dan Tilque 172 +72

Dan Tilque is knocked out.

Erland Sommarskog

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Sep 18, 2014, 4:22:34 PM9/18/14
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This contest is now open only to Marc Dashevsky, Jeffery Turner,
Mark Brader, Peter Smyth, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ,
Stephen W Perry, David B, Rob Parker.

Q2 - Which is the highest temperature recorded in Sweden? (That is, outdoor
in the shade etc.) Answer in 'C.

Answers must be in no later than Tue 23rd, 22:00, Swedish time. Preferrably
earlier. Planned deadline for Q3 is Sat 27th, 22:00. Please indicate if
you think we will not be able to make it.

Dan Blum

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Sep 18, 2014, 4:42:47 PM9/18/14
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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Marc Dashevsky, Jeffery Turner,
> Mark Brader, Peter Smyth, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj?rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ,
> Stephen W Perry, David B, Rob Parker.

> Q2 - Which is the highest temperature recorded in Sweden? (That is, outdoor
> in the shade etc.) Answer in 'C.

33

Marc Dashevsky

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Sep 18, 2014, 5:03:09 PM9/18/14
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In article <XnsA3ACE39F9...@127.0.0.1>, esq...@sommarskog.se says...
>
> This contest is now open only to Marc Dashevsky, Jeffery Turner,
> Mark Brader, Peter Smyth, Pete, Dan Blum, Bjï¿œrn Lundin, Calvin, Russ,
> Stephen W Perry, David B, Rob Parker.
>
> Q2 - Which is the highest temperature recorded in Sweden? (That is, outdoor
> in the shade etc.) Answer in 'C.

40.6

Russ

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Sep 18, 2014, 5:16:54 PM9/18/14
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:22:34 +0200, Erland Sommarskog
<esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:

>This contest is now open only to Marc Dashevsky, Jeffery Turner,
>Mark Brader, Peter Smyth, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ,
>Stephen W Perry, David B, Rob Parker.
>
>Q2 - Which is the highest temperature recorded in Sweden? (That is, outdoor
>in the shade etc.) Answer in 'C.
>
>Answers must be in no later than Tue 23rd, 22:00, Swedish time. Preferrably
>earlier. Planned deadline for Q3 is Sat 27th, 22:00. Please indicate if
>you think we will not be able to make it.


30 degrees Celsius

Russ

Calvin

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Sep 18, 2014, 5:26:27 PM9/18/14
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On Friday, September 19, 2014 6:22:34 AM UTC+10, Erland Sommarskog wrote:

> Q2 - Which is the highest temperature recorded in Sweden? (That is, outdoor
> in the shade etc.) Answer in 'C.

34.5

cheers,
calvin

Rob Parker

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Sep 18, 2014, 6:57:35 PM9/18/14
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> Q2 - Which is the highest temperature recorded in Sweden? (That is,
> outdoor
> in the shade etc.) Answer in 'C.

38.5 C


Rob

Mark Brader

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Sep 18, 2014, 7:11:15 PM9/18/14
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Erland Sommarskog:
> Q2 - Which is the highest temperature recorded in Sweden?

I'll try 36.
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Toronto are doomed to repeat each other."
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swp

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Sep 18, 2014, 10:24:53 PM9/18/14
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On Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:22:34 PM UTC-4, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Marc Dashevsky, Jeffery Turner,
> Mark Brader, Peter Smyth, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ,
> Stephen W Perry, David B, Rob Parker.
>
> Q2 - Which is the highest temperature recorded in Sweden? (That is, outdoor
> in the shade etc.) Answer in 'C.
>

40

swp, who is surprised that his wag in the previous round was actually correct.

Erland Sommarskog

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Sep 19, 2014, 2:46:00 AM9/19/14
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swp (Stephen...@gmail.com) writes:
> swp, who is surprised that his wag in the previous round was actually
> correct.
>

Yeah. I was not surprised to see that some people got the number right,
given how round it is.

Björn Lundin

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Sep 19, 2014, 3:21:04 AM9/19/14
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On 2014-09-18 22:22, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Marc Dashevsky, Jeffery Turner,
> Mark Brader, Peter Smyth, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ,
> Stephen W Perry, David B, Rob Parker.
>
> Q2 - Which is the highest temperature recorded in Sweden? (That is, outdoor
> in the shade etc.) Answer in 'C.
>

38,9 C


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Bj�rn

David B

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Sep 19, 2014, 3:28:48 AM9/19/14
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39�C

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David B

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Sep 19, 2014, 3:30:24 AM9/19/14
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> Marc Dashevsky 45 -55
> Jeffery Turner 57 -43
> Mark Brader 65 -35
> Peter Smyth 84 -16
> Pete 90 -10
> Dan Blum 92 -8
> Bj�rn Lundin 92 -8
> Calvin 99 -1
> Russ 99 -1
> Stephen W Perry 100 CORRECT!
> David B 100 CORRECT!
> Rob Parker 142 +42
> Dan Tilque 172 +72
>

:o) A total shot in the dark.

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David

Jeffrey Turner

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Sep 19, 2014, 5:26:53 PM9/19/14
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On 9/18/2014 4:22 PM, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Marc Dashevsky, Jeffery Turner,
> Mark Brader, Peter Smyth, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ,
> Stephen W Perry, David B, Rob Parker.
>
> Q2 - Which is the highest temperature recorded in Sweden? (That is, outdoor
> in the shade etc.) Answer in 'C.
>
> Answers must be in no later than Tue 23rd, 22:00, Swedish time. Preferrably
> earlier. Planned deadline for Q3 is Sat 27th, 22:00. Please indicate if
> you think we will not be able to make it.

40

--Jeff

Peter Smyth

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Sep 19, 2014, 7:17:15 PM9/19/14
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Erland Sommarskog wrote:

> This contest is now open only to Marc Dashevsky, Jeffery Turner,
> Mark Brader, Peter Smyth, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ,
> Stephen W Perry, David B, Rob Parker.
>
> Q2 - Which is the highest temperature recorded in Sweden? (That is,
> outdoor in the shade etc.) Answer in 'C.
>
> Answers must be in no later than Tue 23rd, 22:00, Swedish time.
> Preferrably earlier. Planned deadline for Q3 is Sat 27th, 22:00.
> Please indicate if you think we will not be able to make it.

29.2 C

Peter Smyth

Pete

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Sep 21, 2014, 2:20:07 PM9/21/14
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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote in
news:XnsA3ACE39F9...@127.0.0.1:

> This contest is now open only to Marc Dashevsky, Jeffery Turner,
> Mark Brader, Peter Smyth, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ,
> Stephen W Perry, David B, Rob Parker.
>
> Q2 - Which is the highest temperature recorded in Sweden? (That is,
> outdoor in the shade etc.) Answer in 'C.

40

>
> Answers must be in no later than Tue 23rd, 22:00, Swedish time.
> Preferrably earlier. Planned deadline for Q3 is Sat 27th, 22:00.
> Please indicate if you think we will not be able to make it.
>

Pete

Erland Sommarskog

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Sep 21, 2014, 2:32:50 PM9/21/14
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Erland Sommarskog (esq...@sommarskog.se) writes:
> Q2 - Which is the highest temperature recorded in Sweden? (That is,
> outdoor in the shade etc.) Answer in 'C.

Peter Smyth 29.2 -8.8
Russ 30.0 -8.0
Dan Blum 33.0 -7.0
Calvin 34.5 -3.5
Mark Brader 36.0 -2.0

CORRECT 38.0

Rob Parker 38.5 +0.5
Bj�rn Lundin 38.9 +0.9
David B 39.0 +1.0
Stephen W. Perry 40.0 +2.0
Jeffery Turner 40.0 +2.0
Pete 40.0 +2.0
Marc Dashevsky 40.6 +2.6

Peter Smyth is a cool guy, but this time he was too cool and is
he eliminated.

38.0�C has been registered on two occasions: 1947-06-29 in M�lilla and
1933-07-09 in Ultuna (which is near Uppsala). The latter has a an
accuracy of 0.5�C. (So it may have been 38.2!)

Most summers, the temperature reaches over 30�C somewhere in the
country, but not all. This summer had some unusually warm weeks, and
I believe the highest temperature registered was 35.1�C.

Erland Sommarskog

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Sep 21, 2014, 2:35:36 PM9/21/14
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This contest is now open only to Marc Dashevsky, Jeffery Turner, Mark
Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ, Stephen W Perry,
David B and Rob Parker.

Q3: The Swedish parliament has a single house. How many seats does it
have?

Answers should be in no later than Friday 26th, 22:00 Swedish time,
preferrably earlier.

Mark Brader

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Sep 21, 2014, 2:50:21 PM9/21/14
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Erland Sommarskog:
> Q3: The Swedish parliament has a single house. How many seats does it
> have?

I'll try 100. After all, it was right once before.
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m...@vex.net | which is saying something." --Flash Wilson

Dan Blum

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Sep 21, 2014, 3:06:27 PM9/21/14
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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Marc Dashevsky, Jeffery Turner, Mark
> Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj?rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ, Stephen W Perry,
> David B and Rob Parker.

> Q3: The Swedish parliament has a single house. How many seats does it
> have?

261

Pete

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Sep 21, 2014, 5:30:54 PM9/21/14
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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote in
news:XnsA3AFD17D2...@127.0.0.1:

> This contest is now open only to Marc Dashevsky, Jeffery Turner, Mark
> Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ, Stephen W Perry,
> David B and Rob Parker.
>
> Q3: The Swedish parliament has a single house. How many seats does it
> have?

100

>
> Answers should be in no later than Friday 26th, 22:00 Swedish time,
> preferrably earlier.
>

Pete

swp

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Sep 21, 2014, 6:07:00 PM9/21/14
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On Sunday, September 21, 2014 2:35:36 PM UTC-4, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Marc Dashevsky, Jeffery Turner, Mark
> Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ, Stephen W Perry,
> David B and Rob Parker.
>
> Q3: The Swedish parliament has a single house. How many seats does it
> have?
>
> Answers should be in no later than Friday 26th, 22:00 Swedish time,
> preferrably earlier.

400?

swp

Rob Parker

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Sep 21, 2014, 6:34:40 PM9/21/14
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> Q3: The Swedish parliament has a single house. How many seats does it
> have?

87


Rob

Russ

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Sep 21, 2014, 8:43:46 PM9/21/14
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 20:35:36 +0200, Erland Sommarskog
<esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:

>This contest is now open only to Marc Dashevsky, Jeffery Turner, Mark
>Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ, Stephen W Perry,
>David B and Rob Parker.
>
>Q3: The Swedish parliament has a single house. How many seats does it
>have?
>
>Answers should be in no later than Friday 26th, 22:00 Swedish time,
>preferrably earlier.


350?


Russ

David B

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Sep 22, 2014, 4:10:39 AM9/22/14
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> Q3: The Swedish parliament has a single house. How many seats does it
> have?
>

250

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David

Marc Dashevsky

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Sep 22, 2014, 8:20:31 AM9/22/14
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In article <XnsA3AFD17D2...@127.0.0.1>, esq...@sommarskog.se says...
>
> This contest is now open only to Marc Dashevsky, Jeffery Turner, Mark
> Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bjï¿œrn Lundin, Calvin, Russ, Stephen W Perry,
> David B and Rob Parker.
>
> Q3: The Swedish parliament has a single house. How many seats does it
> have?

72

Björn Lundin

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Sep 22, 2014, 4:44:13 PM9/22/14
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On 2014-09-21 20:35, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Marc Dashevsky, Jeffery Turner, Mark
> Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ, Stephen W Perry,
> David B and Rob Parker.
>
> Q3: The Swedish parliament has a single house. How many seats does it
> have?

349

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Bj�rn

Calvin

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Sep 22, 2014, 5:12:18 PM9/22/14
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On Monday, September 22, 2014 4:35:36 AM UTC+10, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Marc Dashevsky, Jeffery Turner, Mark
>
> Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ, Stephen W Perry,
>
> David B and Rob Parker.
>
>
>
> Q3: The Swedish parliament has a single house. How many seats does it
>
> have?

123

cheers,
calvin

Jeffrey Turner

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Sep 22, 2014, 11:05:37 PM9/22/14
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On 9/21/2014 2:35 PM, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Marc Dashevsky, Jeffery Turner, Mark
> Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ, Stephen W Perry,
> David B and Rob Parker.
>
> Q3: The Swedish parliament has a single house. How many seats does it
> have?
>
> Answers should be in no later than Friday 26th, 22:00 Swedish time,
> preferrably earlier.

230

Erland Sommarskog

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Sep 23, 2014, 3:58:31 PM9/23/14
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Erland Sommarskog (esq...@sommarskog.se) writes:
> Q3: The Swedish parliament has a single house. How many seats does it
> have?
>


Marc Dashevsky 72 -277
Rob Parker 87 -262
Pete 100 -249
Mark Brader 100 -249
Calvin 123 -226
Jeffery Turner 230 -119
David B 250 -100
Dan Blum 261 -88
Bj�rn Lundin 349 CORRECT!
Russ 350 +1
Stephen Perry 400 +51

Marc Dashevsky is knocked out.

The Swedish parliament is fairly big for a country of our size, and
sometimes you hear critical voices who find it overdimensioned. So I
was not surprised that most answers were the lower than the correct
value. But four answers <= 100 was a bit unexpected.

As for Russ's answer, it was actually correct once upon a time. The uni-
cameral parliament was introduced in 1970 and at the time it had 350 seats.
But the elections in 1973 ended with a draw, 175-175 between the two blocks.
During this period more than one question was decided by tombola. (Although
for critical questions, there tended to be a dissenter from the non-
socialist bloc who laid down is vote. The Social Democrates were in
the government through the entire period.) The next elections was a
decently clear victory for the right-wing side, 180-170. 1979 was another
close call, but now the number of seats had been adjusted, and the
right-wing side won with 175-174.

The most recent election was on the same day as this competition started.
The outcome is a mess. Let's not talk about it.

Erland Sommarskog

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Sep 23, 2014, 4:02:40 PM9/23/14
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This contest is now open only to Jeffery Turner, Mark Brader, Pete, Dan
Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.

Q4: On what day did Alfred Nobel die? Answer on the format YYYY-MM-DD.

Answers should be in no later than Saturday 27th, 22:00 Swedish time,
preferrably earlier.

Dan Blum

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Sep 23, 2014, 4:32:57 PM9/23/14
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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Jeffery Turner, Mark Brader, Pete, Dan
> Blum, Bj?rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.

> Q4: On what day did Alfred Nobel die? Answer on the format YYYY-MM-DD.

1895-06-30

Russ

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Sep 23, 2014, 5:10:37 PM9/23/14
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 22:02:40 +0200, Erland Sommarskog
<esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:

>This contest is now open only to Jeffery Turner, Mark Brader, Pete, Dan
>Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.
>
>Q4: On what day did Alfred Nobel die? Answer on the format YYYY-MM-DD.
>
>Answers should be in no later than Saturday 27th, 22:00 Swedish time,
>preferrably earlier.


1893-12-10


Russ

Rob Parker

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Sep 23, 2014, 7:16:03 PM9/23/14
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> Q4: On what day did Alfred Nobel die? Answer on the format YYYY-MM-DD.

1905-04-27


Rob

Jeffrey Turner

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Sep 23, 2014, 10:18:49 PM9/23/14
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On 9/23/2014 4:02 PM, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Jeffery Turner, Mark Brader, Pete, Dan
> Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.
>
> Q4: On what day did Alfred Nobel die? Answer on the format YYYY-MM-DD.
>
> Answers should be in no later than Saturday 27th, 22:00 Swedish time,
> preferrably earlier.

1898-12-12

--Jeff

David B

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Sep 24, 2014, 3:41:35 AM9/24/14
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1875-12-19



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David

Mark Brader

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Sep 24, 2014, 4:42:33 AM9/24/14
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Erland Sommarskog:
> Q4: On what day did Alfred Nobel die? Answer on the format YYYY-MM-DD.

It took a few years to get that weird will sorted out, so I'll go with
1895-01-01.
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m...@vex.net | but I forget what" -- Rayan Zachariassen

Mark Brader

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Sep 24, 2014, 4:52:52 AM9/24/14
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Erland Sommarskog:
> The unicameral parliament was introduced in 1970 and at the time it
> had 350 seats. But the elections in 1973 ended with a draw, 175-175
> between the two blocks. During this period more than one question
> was decided by tombola.

What's that mean, by chance? We don't do that.

Here, ties in the House of Commons are avoided by allowing one member
-- the Speaker, who presides over the sessions -- to vote only if
there would otherwise be a tie. In our upper house, the Senate,
it's simpler: any motion needs a majority to pass, so a tie is the
same as being outvoted. And a tie among candidates being elected
*to* Parliament results in a the election being voided for that riding
and a new one held.
--
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m...@vex.net -- Nietzsche (trans. Kaufmann)

My text in this article is in the public domain.

Erland Sommarskog

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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> Erland Sommarskog:
>> The unicameral parliament was introduced in 1970 and at the time it
>> had 350 seats. But the elections in 1973 ended with a draw, 175-175
>> between the two blocks. During this period more than one question
>> was decided by tombola.
>
> What's that mean, by chance? We don't do that.
>

Yes, by chance. They put two notes in a box, shake it around, and someone
draws one note with the eyes closed.

> Here, ties in the House of Commons are avoided by allowing one member
> -- the Speaker, who presides over the sessions -- to vote only if
> there would otherwise be a tie.

That is very common on boards that the chairman has a casting vote. Now,
in the specific case of the parliamented in 1973, the election of the
speaker would have been a been very decisive vote, which apparently would
have ended in a draw. Now, when the parliament convenes the first time,
there is a default Speaker: the oldest MP in terms of number of years in
the parliament. Who that was in 1973, I don't know. (But I believe that
in the newly elected parliament, it is the outgoing Speaker.)

But since there are a couple of deputy Speakers, this means that an
important question would have been settled differently if the First Speaker
would have gotten a cold - almost like a lottery anyway!

Calvin

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On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 6:02:40 AM UTC+10, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Jeffery Turner, Mark Brader, Pete, Dan
>
> Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.
>
>
>
> Q4: On what day did Alfred Nobel die? Answer on the format YYYY-MM-DD.

Good question. Unfortunately I have no idea.

1933-03-30

cheers,
calvin

Björn Lundin

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On 2014-09-23 22:02, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Jeffery Turner, Mark Brader, Pete, Dan
> Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.
>
> Q4: On what day did Alfred Nobel die? Answer on the format YYYY-MM-DD.
>
> Answers should be in no later than Saturday 27th, 22:00 Swedish time,
> preferrably earlier.
>
>

1903-11-15

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Bj�rn

David B

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I think you've just saved me :o)

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swp

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On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:02:40 PM UTC-4, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Jeffery Turner, Mark Brader, Pete, Dan
> Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Calvin, Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.
>
> Q4: On what day did Alfred Nobel die? Answer on the format YYYY-MM-DD.
>
> Answers should be in no later than Saturday 27th, 22:00 Swedish time,
> preferrably earlier.

1900-01-01 (aka the I have no idea answer)

swp

Pete

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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote in
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> This contest is now open only to Jeffery Turner, Mark Brader, Pete,
> Dan Blum, Björn Lundin, Calvin, Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob
> Parker.
>
> Q4: On what day did Alfred Nobel die? Answer on the format YYYY-MM-DD.

1901-01-01

>
> Answers should be in no later than Saturday 27th, 22:00 Swedish time,
> preferrably earlier.
>
>

Pete

Erland Sommarskog

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Erland Sommarskog (esq...@sommarskog.se) writes:
> Q4: On what day did Alfred Nobel die? Answer on the format YYYY-MM-DD.
>

David B 1875-12-19 -7603 days
Russ 1893-12-10 -1037
Mark Brader 1895-01-01 -650
Dan Blum 1895-06-30 -470

CORRECT ANSWER 1896-12-10

Jeffery Turner 1898-12-12 +791
Stephen W Perry 1900-01-01 +1176
Pete 1901-01-01 +1541
Björn Lundin 1903-11-15 +2589
Rob Parker 1905-04-27 +3118
Calvin 1933-03-30 +13317

Calvin is knocked out.

Kudos to Russ who was the only one to have the date and month correct,
although he was off with a few years. I was not aware this fact myself,
and even somehow failed to pay any attention to it when I first looked
it up.

It certainly helps to come reasonably close if you know when the first Nobel
prizes were awarded.

Erland Sommarskog

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Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.

Q5: The southernmost point of Sweden is Smygehuk. The furthest north you
can get in Sweden by public road is Maunu. What driving distance do
Google maps give for the shortest route from Smygehuk to Maunu? Answer in
km.

Answers should be in no later than Wednesday Oct 1, 22:00 Swedish time.
Preferably earlier.

Dan Blum

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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Jeffery Turner, Mark Brader, Pete, Dan
> Blum, Bj?rn Lundin, Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.

> Q5: The southernmost point of Sweden is Smygehuk. The furthest north you
> can get in Sweden by public road is Maunu. What driving distance do
> Google maps give for the shortest route from Smygehuk to Maunu? Answer in
> km.

1400 km

swp

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2000 km (another wag, based on how long I think the country is)

swp

Björn Lundin

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On 2014-09-27 19:07, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> Erland Sommarskog (esq...@sommarskog.se) writes:

> Kudos to Russ who was the only one to have the date and month correct,
> although he was off with a few years.

The date, I should have got. Dec-10 is the day of the Nobel prize

--
Bj�rn

Björn Lundin

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On 2014-09-27 19:17, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Jeffery Turner, Mark Brader, Pete, Dan
> Blum, Björn Lundin, Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.
>
> Q5: The southernmost point of Sweden is Smygehuk. The furthest north you
> can get in Sweden by public road is Maunu. What driving distance do
> Google maps give for the shortest route from Smygehuk to Maunu? Answer in
> km.
>
> Answers should be in no later than Wednesday Oct 1, 22:00 Swedish time.
> Preferably earlier.
>

I live about 50 km from Smygehuk. Unfortunately, I never took that road
trip...
But I do know that the distance across Sweden north/south is about 1580
km, as the crow flies.

As the car drives, I'd say 2103 km



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Björn

Mark Brader

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Erland Sommarskog:
> Q5: The southernmost point of Sweden is Smygehuk. The furthest north you
> can get in Sweden by public road is Maunu. What driving distance do
> Google maps give for the shortest route from Smygehuk to Maunu? Answer in
> km.

2222.2 km

(Estimated as follows: I think the country covers about 12-14 degrees
of latitude, from the high 50s to almost 70. Bump it up to 20 degrees
to allow for the wiggliness of roads. 1 degree = 60 nautical miles
and 1 nautical mile = 1852 m. 1200 x 1.852 is 2222.4. Knock off .2
to produce an answer that doesn't look as if it was calculated to
5 significant digits based on an input with 1 significant digit.)
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Mark Brader

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Mark Brader:
> Estimated as follows: I think the country covers about 12-14 degrees
> of latitude, from the high 50s to almost 70. Bump it up to 20 degrees
> to allow for the wiggliness of roads...

So I checked the answer after posting. Seems I had the latitude range
pretty much dead on (it's about 13.15 degrees between the two points,
and about 0.58 more degrees to the acutal northern tip of the country),
but overestimated the wiggliness. Not where I would have expected my
principal error to me.
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Toronto thought out than the movie itself."
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Rob Parker

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> Q5: The southernmost point of Sweden is Smygehuk. The furthest north you
> can get in Sweden by public road is Maunu. What driving distance do
> Google maps give for the shortest route from Smygehuk to Maunu? Answer in
> km.

1750 km


Rob

Jeffrey Turner

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On 9/27/2014 1:17 PM, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Jeffery Turner, Mark Brader, Pete, Dan
> Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.
>
> Q5: The southernmost point of Sweden is Smygehuk. The furthest north you
> can get in Sweden by public road is Maunu. What driving distance do
> Google maps give for the shortest route from Smygehuk to Maunu? Answer in
> km.
>
> Answers should be in no later than Wednesday Oct 1, 22:00 Swedish time.
> Preferably earlier.

800

--Jeff

Pete

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Sep 27, 2014, 10:48:13 PM9/27/14
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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote in
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> This contest is now open only to Jeffery Turner, Mark Brader, Pete,
> Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.
>
> Q5: The southernmost point of Sweden is Smygehuk. The furthest north
> you can get in Sweden by public road is Maunu. What driving distance
> do Google maps give for the shortest route from Smygehuk to Maunu?
> Answer in km.

1800

>
> Answers should be in no later than Wednesday Oct 1, 22:00 Swedish
> time. Preferably earlier.
>

Pete

Russ

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Sep 28, 2014, 7:01:42 AM9/28/14
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 19:17:23 +0200, Erland Sommarskog
<esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:

>This contest is now open only to Jeffery Turner, Mark Brader, Pete, Dan
>Blum, Björn Lundin, Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.
>
>Q5: The southernmost point of Sweden is Smygehuk. The furthest north you
>can get in Sweden by public road is Maunu. What driving distance do
>Google maps give for the shortest route from Smygehuk to Maunu? Answer in
>km.
>
>Answers should be in no later than Wednesday Oct 1, 22:00 Swedish time.
>Preferably earlier.


2000 km

Russ

David B

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David B

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2500km

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Erland Sommarskog

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Erland Sommarskog (esq...@sommarskog.se) writes:
> Q5: The southernmost point of Sweden is Smygehuk. The furthest north you
> can get in Sweden by public road is Maunu. What driving distance do
> Google maps give for the shortest route from Smygehuk to Maunu? Answer in
> km.
>

Jeffery Turner 800 -1174
Dan Blum 1400 -674
Rob Parker 1750 -224
Pete 1800 -174

CORRECT 1974

Stephen W Perry 2000 +26
Russ 2000 +26
Bj�rn Lundin 2103 +129
Mark Brader 2222.2 +248.2
David B 2500 +526

Jeffery Turner is knocked out.

Fairly good answer slate this time, I would say.

Maunu itself is too small to be on Google Maps. If you don't find your
way, search for Karesuando instead

Erland Sommarskog

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This contest is now open only to Mark Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin,
Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.

Q6: What was the population of Sweden on 2014-07-31?

Answers should be in no later than Friday Oct 3rd, 22:00 Oct, preferrably
much earlier.

Mark Brader

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Erland Sommarskog:
> Q6: What was the population of Sweden on 2014-07-31?

I'll go with a nice round 8,388,608, though I suspect it's a bit low.
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Dan Blum

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Sep 29, 2014, 7:30:59 PM9/29/14
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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Mark Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj?rn Lundin,
> Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.

> Q6: What was the population of Sweden on 2014-07-31?

18 million

Pete

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Sep 29, 2014, 8:26:31 PM9/29/14
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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote in
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> This contest is now open only to Mark Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn
> Lundin, Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.
>
> Q6: What was the population of Sweden on 2014-07-31?

10,000,000

>
> Answers should be in no later than Friday Oct 3rd, 22:00 Oct,
> preferrably much earlier.
>
>
>

Pete

Rob Parker

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> Q6: What was the population of Sweden on 2014-07-31?

23,456,789


Rob

swp

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On Monday, September 29, 2014 5:42:14 PM UTC-4, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Mark Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Björn Lundin,
> Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.
>
> Q6: What was the population of Sweden on 2014-07-31?


9,876,543

swp

Russ

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On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 23:42:14 +0200, Erland Sommarskog
<esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:

>This contest is now open only to Mark Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin,
>Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.
>
>Q6: What was the population of Sweden on 2014-07-31?
>
>Answers should be in no later than Friday Oct 3rd, 22:00 Oct, preferrably
>much earlier.

10 million


Russ

Björn Lundin

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On 2014-09-29 23:42, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Mark Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin,
> Russ, Stephen W Perry, David B and Rob Parker.
>
> Q6: What was the population of Sweden on 2014-07-31?
>
> Answers should be in no later than Friday Oct 3rd, 22:00 Oct, preferrably
> much earlier.
>

9 215 635


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Bj�rn

David B

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20,000,000
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Erland Sommarskog

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Sep 30, 2014, 2:53:45 PM9/30/14
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Erland Sommarskog (esq...@sommarskog.se) writes:
> Q6: What was the population of Sweden on 2014-07-31?
>

Mark Brader 8 388 608 -1 316 397
Bj�rn Lundin 9 215 635 -489 370

CORRECT 9 705 005

Stephen W Perry 9 876 543 +171 538
Pete 10 000 000 +294 995
Russ 10 000 000 +294 995
Dan Blum 18 000 000 +8 294 995
David B 20 000 000 +10 294 995
Rob Parker 23 456 789 +13 751 784

Rob Parker is eliminated.

I will have to admit that had I had to answer the question myself, my
answer would have been closer to Bj�rn's than the correct number. Wasn't
it just a few years ago we passed nine million? How time flies!

(And indeed, looking at
http://www.scb.se/sv_/Hitta-statistik/Statistik-efter-amne/Befolkning/Befolkningens-sammansattning/Befolkningsstatistik/25788/25795/Helarsstatistik---Riket/26046/
I see that we passed nine million in 2004.)

Erland Sommarskog

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Russ, Stephen W Perry and David B.

Q7: Like most other countries Sweden has won and ceded territories.
Originally, Sweden comprised a much smaller area than it does today.
But Sweden has also extended far beyond its current borders. Which
was the first year when Sweden comprised all territory that is the
Kingdom of Sweden today?

Mark Brader

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Erland Sommarskog:
> Q7: Like most other countries Sweden has won and ceded territories.
> Originally, Sweden comprised a much smaller area than it does today.
> But Sweden has also extended far beyond its current borders. Which
> was the first year when Sweden comprised all territory that is the
> Kingdom of Sweden today?

"Comprised all territory" sounds as if it might mean "included all
the territory that it now does, and perhaps more". But in the context
of the previous sentences, it sounds as if you actually mean "consisted
of exactly the same territory as now".

Please clarify.

(Posted and emailed.)
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m...@vex.net | also does the absence of news. --Stephen Leacock

Erland Sommarskog

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Erland Sommarskog (esq...@sommarskog.se) writes:
> This contest is now open only to Mark Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn
> Lundin, Russ, Stephen W Perry and David B.
>
> Q7: Like most other countries Sweden has won and ceded territories.
> Originally, Sweden comprised a much smaller area than it does today.
> But Sweden has also extended far beyond its current borders. Which
> was the first year when Sweden comprised all territory that is the
> Kingdom of Sweden today?
>

Mark asks:

"Comprised all territory" sounds as if it might mean "included all
the territory that it now does, and perhaps more". But in the context
of the previous sentences, it sounds as if you actually mean "consisted
of exactly the same territory as now".

The first interpretation is correct. That is, the first time the Kingdom of
Sweden included all of its current territory. At this point in time, the
Kingdom may or may not have extended beyond its current territory.

If you want to give a go at the second interpretation, you are welcome,
but bad answers will not knock you out. (If you answer both, please specify
which is which. If not I will assume that the first year given is your
actual entry.)

Dan Blum

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Sep 30, 2014, 3:46:09 PM9/30/14
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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Mark Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj?rn Lundin,
> Russ, Stephen W Perry and David B.

> Q7: Like most other countries Sweden has won and ceded territories.
> Originally, Sweden comprised a much smaller area than it does today.
> But Sweden has also extended far beyond its current borders. Which
> was the first year when Sweden comprised all territory that is the
> Kingdom of Sweden today?

1685

Erland Sommarskog

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I forgot to give a deadline for Q7. Answers should be in no later than
Saturday 4th, 22:00 Swedish time. Earlier answers are highly welcome!

Mark Brader

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Erland Sommarskog:
> Q7: Like most other countries Sweden has won and ceded territories.
> Originally, Sweden comprised a much smaller area than it does today.
> But Sweden has also extended far beyond its current borders. Which
> was the first year when Sweden comprised all territory that is the
> Kingdom of Sweden today?

1815 is my guess.
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Russ

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Sep 30, 2014, 6:08:41 PM9/30/14
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 20:57:11 +0200, Erland Sommarskog
<esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:

>This contest is now open only to Mark Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin,
>Russ, Stephen W Perry and David B.
>
>Q7: Like most other countries Sweden has won and ceded territories.
>Originally, Sweden comprised a much smaller area than it does today.
>But Sweden has also extended far beyond its current borders. Which
>was the first year when Sweden comprised all territory that is the
>Kingdom of Sweden today?

1795

Russ

swp

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Sep 30, 2014, 6:24:00 PM9/30/14
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On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 2:57:11 PM UTC-4, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Mark Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin,
> Russ, Stephen W Perry and David B.
>
> Q7: Like most other countries Sweden has won and ceded territories.
> Originally, Sweden comprised a much smaller area than it does today.
> But Sweden has also extended far beyond its current borders. Which
> was the first year when Sweden comprised all territory that is the
> Kingdom of Sweden today?

gah! um .. 1776?

swp

Björn Lundin

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Oct 1, 2014, 3:43:08 AM10/1/14
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On 2014-09-30 20:57, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Mark Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin,
> Russ, Stephen W Perry and David B.
>
> Q7: Like most other countries Sweden has won and ceded territories.
> Originally, Sweden comprised a much smaller area than it does today.
> But Sweden has also extended far beyond its current borders. Which
> was the first year when Sweden comprised all territory that is the
> Kingdom of Sweden today?
>

Really tricky, this one.

The only thing I can think of that was won, and not lost afterwards
is my own part of the country, won from Denmark.
I'd say 1658 with a very big risk of leaving the contest.

1658


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Bj�rn

David B

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1850


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Pete

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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote in
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> This contest is now open only to Mark Brader, Pete, Dan Blum, Bj�rn
> Lundin, Russ, Stephen W Perry and David B.
>
> Q7: Like most other countries Sweden has won and ceded territories.
> Originally, Sweden comprised a much smaller area than it does today.
> But Sweden has also extended far beyond its current borders. Which
> was the first year when Sweden comprised all territory that is the
> Kingdom of Sweden today?

1871

>

Pete

Erland Sommarskog

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Oct 4, 2014, 5:18:51 AM10/4/14
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Erland Sommarskog (esq...@sommarskog.se) writes:
>> Q7: Like most other countries Sweden has won and ceded territories.
>> Originally, Sweden comprised a much smaller area than it does today.
>> But Sweden has also extended far beyond its current borders. Which
>> was the first year when Sweden comprised all territory that is the
>> Kingdom of Sweden today?
>>

Björn Lundun 1658 CORRECT!
Dan Blum 1685 +27
Stephen W Perry 1776 +118
Russ 1795 +137
Mark Brader 1815 +157
David B 1850 +192
Pete 1871 +218

1658 was also the year when Sweden reached its greatest extention.

I certainly did not expect anyone but Björn to nail this one, rather I
expected a wide range of answers. What surprised me, though, was that
everyone went for a later year. I thought my phrasing of the question
would lure people to guess some more medevial year.

> If you want to give a go at the second interpretation, you are welcome,
> but bad answers will not knock you out. (If you answer both, please
> specify which is which. If not I will assume that the first year given
> is your actual entry.)

No one tried this. Or maybe Mark did, but forgot to tell.

The question has two possible answers. Most people would answer 1905
when the union with Norway ended. But that was a union, of which the
offical name was Sweden-Norway, or so I believe. And Sweden proper
got its current shape in 1815, when Sweden sold Pomerania to Prussia.

Erland Sommarskog

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Stephen W Perry and David B.

Q8: How high (in metres) is the highest point in Sweden?

Answers should be in no later than Tuesday 7th, 22:00, preferrably earlier.

Mark Brader

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Oct 4, 2014, 6:13:03 AM10/4/14
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Erland Sommarskog:
> Q8: How high (in metres) is the highest point in Sweden?

1955
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Russ

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Oct 4, 2014, 6:16:56 AM10/4/14
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 11:21:36 +0200, Erland Sommarskog
<esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:

>This contest is now open only to Mark Brader, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Russ,
>Stephen W Perry and David B.
>
>Q8: How high (in metres) is the highest point in Sweden?
>
>Answers should be in no later than Tuesday 7th, 22:00, preferrably earlier.

2500 metres


Russ

Björn Lundin

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Oct 4, 2014, 8:42:58 AM10/4/14
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On 2014-10-04 11:21, Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Mark Brader, Dan Blum, Bj�rn Lundin, Russ,
> Stephen W Perry and David B.
>
> Q8: How high (in metres) is the highest point in Sweden?
>
> Answers should be in no later than Tuesday 7th, 22:00, preferrably earlier.
>
>
2111 m rings a bell.

2111 m



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Dan Blum

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Oct 4, 2014, 9:17:21 AM10/4/14
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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:
> This contest is now open only to Mark Brader, Dan Blum, Bj?rn Lundin, Russ,
> Stephen W Perry and David B.

> Q8: How high (in metres) is the highest point in Sweden?

2100
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