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Mark Brader

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Jul 5, 2011, 1:52:41 AM7/5/11
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Please post your answers in a followup in this thread (quoting the
question before each one), based only on your own knowledge. You
have until Saturday, July 9, by Toronto time -- that is, from the
time of posting you have a couple of hours less than 5 days.


1. This actor, who lived 1935-2001, played Lt. Samuels on the TV series
"Cagney & Lacey" and Larry King on the series "King of Kensington".
Give his first and last name.

2. He was born in the same country as Leslie Nielsen (1926-2010).
What country was that?

3. What transportation facility opened on August 15, 1914?

4. The Hawaiian language has given us two words for the rocks formed
when lava cools. If they are smooth and ropy, that's "pahoehoe".
What is the word if they are rough and blocky?

5. What geographical area is home to the Rays and the Lightning?

6. What prize is given annually by the NHL to the best head coach
of the year?

7. "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix", we learn that Hagrid
has a half-brother with an even shorter name; Tony Maudsley played
him in the movie, to the extent that any human did. What is that
half-brother's name?

8. Speaking of animation, what was the title of the 2005 movie about
four zoo animals who are shipped from New York to Africa?

9. Name the tourist attraction, *and* the city in India where it is
located, that fit the pattern of the quiz.

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Erland Sommarskog

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Jul 5, 2011, 4:18:51 AM7/5/11
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> 2. He was born in the same country as Leslie Nielsen (1926-2010).
> What country was that?

Denmark



> 3. What transportation facility opened on August 15, 1914?

The Toronto Underground



> 5. What geographical area is home to the Rays and the Lightning?

Minnesota



> 8. Speaking of animation, what was the title of the 2005 movie about
> four zoo animals who are shipped from New York to Africa?

Madagascar



> 9. Name the tourist attraction, *and* the city in India where it is
> located, that fit the pattern of the quiz.

Taj Mahal, Agra

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David

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Jul 5, 2011, 4:46:21 AM7/5/11
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3. What transportation facility opened on August 15, 1914?

The Panama Canal.


..........That's my lot :o(

Marc Dashevsky

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Jul 5, 2011, 9:13:00 AM7/5/11
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In article <M62dnYBVrMY0O4_T...@vex.net>, m...@vex.net says...

> Please post your answers in a followup in this thread (quoting the
> question before each one), based only on your own knowledge. You
> have until Saturday, July 9, by Toronto time -- that is, from the
> time of posting you have a couple of hours less than 5 days.
>
>
> 1. This actor, who lived 1935-2001, played Lt. Samuels on the TV series
> "Cagney & Lacey" and Larry King on the series "King of Kensington".
> Give his first and last name.
>
> 2. He was born in the same country as Leslie Nielsen (1926-2010).
> What country was that?
Canada

> 3. What transportation facility opened on August 15, 1914?
>
> 4. The Hawaiian language has given us two words for the rocks formed
> when lava cools. If they are smooth and ropy, that's "pahoehoe".
> What is the word if they are rough and blocky?
>
> 5. What geographical area is home to the Rays and the Lightning?

Tampa Bay, Florida

> 6. What prize is given annually by the NHL to the best head coach
> of the year?
>
> 7. "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix", we learn that Hagrid
> has a half-brother with an even shorter name; Tony Maudsley played
> him in the movie, to the extent that any human did. What is that
> half-brother's name?
>
> 8. Speaking of animation, what was the title of the 2005 movie about
> four zoo animals who are shipped from New York to Africa?

Madagascar

> 9. Name the tourist attraction, *and* the city in India where it is
> located, that fit the pattern of the quiz.


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John Masters

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Jul 5, 2011, 1:41:50 PM7/5/11
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On 2011-07-05 06:52:41 +0100, Mark Brader said:

> Please post your answers in a followup in this thread (quoting the
> question before each one), based only on your own knowledge. You
> have until Saturday, July 9, by Toronto time -- that is, from the
> time of posting you have a couple of hours less than 5 days.
>
>
> 1. This actor, who lived 1935-2001, played Lt. Samuels on the TV series
> "Cagney & Lacey" and Larry King on the series "King of Kensington".
> Give his first and last name.
>
> 2. He was born in the same country as Leslie Nielsen (1926-2010).
> What country was that?


Canada

> 3. What transportation facility opened on August 15, 1914?
>
> 4. The Hawaiian language has given us two words for the rocks formed
> when lava cools. If they are smooth and ropy, that's "pahoehoe".
> What is the word if they are rough and blocky?
>
> 5. What geographical area is home to the Rays and the Lightning?
>
> 6. What prize is given annually by the NHL to the best head coach
> of the year?
>
> 7. "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix", we learn that Hagrid
> has a half-brother with an even shorter name; Tony Maudsley played
> him in the movie, to the extent that any human did. What is that
> half-brother's name?
>
> 8. Speaking of animation, what was the title of the 2005 movie about
> four zoo animals who are shipped from New York to Africa?
>
> 9. Name the tourist attraction, *and* the city in India where it is
> located, that fit the pattern of the quiz.


--
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb
-- they're often students, for heaven's sake.
(Terry Pratchett)

swp

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Jul 5, 2011, 6:57:47 PM7/5/11
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On Tuesday, July 5, 2011 1:52:41 AM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> Please post your answers in a followup in this thread (quoting the
> question before each one), based only on your own knowledge. You
> have until Saturday, July 9, by Toronto time -- that is, from the
> time of posting you have a couple of hours less than 5 days.
>
> 1. This actor, who lived 1935-2001, played Lt. Samuels on the TV series
> "Cagney & Lacey" and Larry King on the series "King of Kensington".
> Give his first and last name.

al waxman

> 2. He was born in the same country as Leslie Nielsen (1926-2010).
> What country was that?

canada

> 3. What transportation facility opened on August 15, 1914?

that would be the panama canal, where I was born.

> 4. The Hawaiian language has given us two words for the rocks formed
> when lava cools. If they are smooth and ropy, that's "pahoehoe".
> What is the word if they are rough and blocky?

aa

> 5. What geographical area is home to the Rays and the Lightning?

tampa bay

> 6. What prize is given annually by the NHL to the best head coach
> of the year?

uh oh .. I should know this ...

> 7. "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix", we learn that Hagrid
> has a half-brother with an even shorter name; Tony Maudsley played
> him in the movie, to the extent that any human did. What is that
> half-brother's name?

grawp (look for him in the movie opening on july 14th)

> 8. Speaking of animation, what was the title of the 2005 movie about
> four zoo animals who are shipped from New York to Africa?

madagascar?

> 9. Name the tourist attraction, *and* the city in India where it is
> located, that fit the pattern of the quiz.

taj mahal, agra

> --
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> Toronto | "I can't. This is important... Someone is WRONG on the Internet."
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or, as fonzie would say, "aaaaaaaaayy!"

swp

Rob Parker

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Jul 6, 2011, 11:48:38 PM7/6/11
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> 1. This actor, who lived 1935-2001, played Lt. Samuels on the TV series
> "Cagney & Lacey" and Larry King on the series "King of Kensington".
> Give his first and last name.
>
> 2. He was born in the same country as Leslie Nielsen (1926-2010).
> What country was that?

Denmark (?)

> 3. What transportation facility opened on August 15, 1914?

Panama Canal

> 4. The Hawaiian language has given us two words for the rocks formed
> when lava cools. If they are smooth and ropy, that's "pahoehoe".
> What is the word if they are rough and blocky?
>
> 5. What geographical area is home to the Rays and the Lightning?
>
> 6. What prize is given annually by the NHL to the best head coach
> of the year?
>
> 7. "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix", we learn that Hagrid
> has a half-brother with an even shorter name; Tony Maudsley played
> him in the movie, to the extent that any human did. What is that
> half-brother's name?
>
> 8. Speaking of animation, what was the title of the 2005 movie about
> four zoo animals who are shipped from New York to Africa?

Madagascar

> 9. Name the tourist attraction, *and* the city in India where it is
> located, that fit the pattern of the quiz.

Taj Mahal; Agra


Rob

Jeffrey Turner

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Jul 7, 2011, 12:38:57 AM7/7/11
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On 7/5/2011 1:52 AM, Mark Brader wrote:
> Please post your answers in a followup in this thread (quoting the
> question before each one), based only on your own knowledge. You
> have until Saturday, July 9, by Toronto time -- that is, from the
> time of posting you have a couple of hours less than 5 days.
>
>
> 1. This actor, who lived 1935-2001, played Lt. Samuels on the TV series
> "Cagney& Lacey" and Larry King on the series "King of Kensington".

> Give his first and last name.
>
> 2. He was born in the same country as Leslie Nielsen (1926-2010).
> What country was that?
>
> 3. What transportation facility opened on August 15, 1914?
>
> 4. The Hawaiian language has given us two words for the rocks formed
> when lava cools. If they are smooth and ropy, that's "pahoehoe".
> What is the word if they are rough and blocky?
>
> 5. What geographical area is home to the Rays and the Lightning?

Tampa Bay

> 6. What prize is given annually by the NHL to the best head coach
> of the year?
>
> 7. "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix", we learn that Hagrid
> has a half-brother with an even shorter name; Tony Maudsley played
> him in the movie, to the extent that any human did. What is that
> half-brother's name?
>
> 8. Speaking of animation, what was the title of the 2005 movie about
> four zoo animals who are shipped from New York to Africa?

Madagascar

> 9. Name the tourist attraction, *and* the city in India where it is
> located, that fit the pattern of the quiz.

Taj Mahal, Agra

--Jeff

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life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish
fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable
heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood,
unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

björn lundin

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Jul 7, 2011, 2:02:44 PM7/7/11
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> 2. He was born in the same country as Leslie Nielsen(1926-2010).
>    What country was that?
Denmark

> 6. What prize is given annually by the NHL to the best head coach
>    of the year?
Ted Lindays trofé ?


>
> 8. Speaking of animation, what was the title of the 2005 movie about
>    four zoo animals who are shipped from New York to Africa?

Madagascar
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Björn Lundin

Dan Tilque

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Jul 9, 2011, 7:55:25 AM7/9/11
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Mark Brader wrote:
> Please post your answers in a followup in this thread (quoting the
> question before each one), based only on your own knowledge. You
> have until Saturday, July 9, by Toronto time -- that is, from the
> time of posting you have a couple of hours less than 5 days.
>
>
> 1. This actor, who lived 1935-2001, played Lt. Samuels on the TV series
> "Cagney & Lacey" and Larry King on the series "King of Kensington".
> Give his first and last name.
>
> 2. He was born in the same country as Leslie Nielsen (1926-2010).
> What country was that?

New Zealand

>
> 3. What transportation facility opened on August 15, 1914?

Heathrow Airport

>
> 4. The Hawaiian language has given us two words for the rocks formed
> when lava cools. If they are smooth and ropy, that's "pahoehoe".
> What is the word if they are rough and blocky?

'a'a

>
> 5. What geographical area is home to the Rays and the Lightning?

Tampa Bay

>
> 6. What prize is given annually by the NHL to the best head coach
> of the year?
>
> 7. "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix", we learn that Hagrid
> has a half-brother with an even shorter name; Tony Maudsley played
> him in the movie, to the extent that any human did. What is that
> half-brother's name?
>
> 8. Speaking of animation, what was the title of the 2005 movie about
> four zoo animals who are shipped from New York to Africa?
>
> 9. Name the tourist attraction, *and* the city in India where it is
> located, that fit the pattern of the quiz.
>

Taj Mahal, Agra

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Dan Tilque

Mark Brader

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Jul 10, 2011, 12:30:11 AM7/10/11
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Okay, Rotating Quiz #21 is done.

In designing this one, I could only come up with 9 questions that
fitted the secret theme, because it wasn't until several days
later that I realized I could've asked "In what territory was
Friday, October 6, 1867, directly followed by Friday, October 18?"
(And some of them were pretty hard, too. Sorry about that.)

Now, the last question (a variation on one posted by Ken Jennings
on his web site a while back) required a 2-part answer and also
required identifying the secret theme. (Or at least, it was
*supposed* to -- two entrants apparently got it right *without*
managing to getting the theme!) So I decided it was appropriate
to allow 2 points for this one, making the scores below out of 10.

I also decided not to penalize entrants who gave an otherwise correct
answer if they gave it in a form like "Tampa Bay, Florida" instead of
the correctly thematic "Tampa Bay".

So:


> 1. This actor, who lived 1935-2001, played Lt. Samuels on the TV series
> "Cagney & Lacey" and Larry King on the series "King of Kensington".
> Give his first and last name.

AL WAXMAN. 1 for Stephen.

> 2. He was born in the same country as Leslie Nielsen (1926-2010).
> What country was that?

CANADA. 1 for Marc, John, and Stephen.

> 3. What transportation facility opened on August 15, 1914?

PANAMA CANAL. 1 for David, Stephen, and Rob.

> 4. The Hawaiian language has given us two words for the rocks formed
> when lava cools. If they are smooth and ropy, that's "pahoehoe".
> What is the word if they are rough and blocky?

AA. 1 for Stephen and Dan.

> 5. What geographical area is home to the Rays and the Lightning?

TAMPA BAY. 1 for Marc, Stephen, Jeff, and Dan.

> 6. What prize is given annually by the NHL to the best head coach
> of the year?

JACK ADAMS AWARD.

> 7. "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix", we learn that Hagrid
> has a half-brother with an even shorter name; Tony Maudsley played
> him in the movie, to the extent that any human did. What is that
> half-brother's name?

GRAWP. 1 for Stephen.

> 8. Speaking of animation, what was the title of the 2005 movie about
> four zoo animals who are shipped from New York to Africa?

MADAGASCAR. 1 for Erland, Marc, Stephen, Rob, Jeff, and Björn.

> 9. Name the tourist attraction, *and* the city in India where it is
> located, that fit the pattern of the quiz.

TAJ MAJAL, AGRA. 2 for Erland, Stephen, Rob, Jeff, and Dan.


Scores, if there are no errors:

Stephen Perry 9
Dan Tilque 4
Rob Parker 4
Jeff Turner 4
Marc Dashevsky 3
Erland Sommarskog 3
Björn Lundin 1
John Masters 1
"David" 1

So we rotate, with a decisive thump, right back to Stephen Perry for
Quiz #22. Congratulations, Mr. Perry! (Posted and emailed.)

(If for any reason Stephen is unable to complete his reign, I leave
it up to the three second-place finishers to decide between them who
should take over.)
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "Pleasant dreams!"
m...@vex.net | "I'll dream of Canada." -- THE SUSPECT

Erland Sommarskog

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Jul 10, 2011, 3:57:55 AM7/10/11
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> Now, the last question (a variation on one posted by Ken Jennings
> on his web site a while back) required a 2-part answer and also
> required identifying the secret theme. (Or at least, it was
> *supposed* to -- two entrants apparently got it right *without*
> managing to getting the theme!)

No doubt that was the easiest question in the quiz. Maybe I should
have spotted Tampa Bay.

But this theme is really secret. You still have not revealed it! (The one
you had in #19b was pretty obvious, but I had a difficult Job to understand
the theme in the original #19, and I never managed to crack it.)

Mark Brader

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Jul 10, 2011, 4:33:30 AM7/10/11
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Erland Sommarskog:

> But this theme is really secret. You still have not revealed it!

I revealed all the answers, which should be sufficient to make it obvious.

> (The one you had in #19b was pretty obvious, but I had a difficult Job
> to understand the theme in the original #19, and I never managed to
> crack it.)

Yet right there you hint at knowing it.
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Mark Brader | "I've just checked my dictionary, though, and it does
m...@vex.net | not agree with me, which just goes to show how wrong
Toronto | dictionaries can be." --Gary Williams

Dan Tilque

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Jul 10, 2011, 5:40:38 AM7/10/11
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Mark Brader wrote:
> Okay, Rotating Quiz #21 is done.
>
> In designing this one, I could only come up with 9 questions that
> fitted the secret theme, because it wasn't until several days
> later that I realized I could've asked "In what territory was
> Friday, October 6, 1867, directly followed by Friday, October 18?"

Too bad -- that one would have been easy.

>
> Now, the last question (a variation on one posted by Ken Jennings
> on his web site a while back) required a 2-part answer and also
> required identifying the secret theme. (Or at least, it was
> *supposed* to -- two entrants apparently got it right *without*
> managing to getting the theme!)

*Shrug* It's the obvious answer, since it's the only tourist attraction
in India that people are likely to know. Well, there's that temple with
all the porn artwork, but I couldn't remember its name without Google's
help. (googling: Khajuraho is what I'm thinking of.)


Erland wrote:
> But this theme is really secret. You still have not revealed it!

Note the vowels of all the answers. Although #5 violates the theme.

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Dan Tilque

Mark Brader

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Jul 10, 2011, 12:07:05 PM7/10/11
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Dan Tilque:
> ...#5 violates the theme.

Only if you count Y as a vowel in words like "Bay".
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Mark Brader "Never re-invent the wheel unnecessarily;
Toronto yours may have corners."
m...@vex.net -- Henry Spencer

Jeffrey Turner

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Jul 10, 2011, 10:15:29 PM7/10/11
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On 7/10/2011 12:30 AM, Mark Brader wrote:
>
> Now, the last question (a variation on one posted by Ken Jennings
> on his web site a while back) required a 2-part answer and also
> required identifying the secret theme. (Or at least, it was
> *supposed* to -- two entrants apparently got it right *without*
> managing to getting the theme!) So I decided it was appropriate
> to allow 2 points for this one, making the scores below out of 10.

I hadn't worked out the theme, I only had two answers to go on.

Dan Tilque

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Jul 11, 2011, 5:43:17 AM7/11/11
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Mark Brader wrote:
> Dan Tilque:
>> ...#5 violates the theme.
>
> Only if you count Y as a vowel in words like "Bay".

Do you pronounce a consonantal Y there?

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Dan Tilque

Mark Brader

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Jul 11, 2011, 9:59:14 AM7/11/11
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Dan Tilque:
>>> ...#5 violates the theme.

Mark Brader:


>> Only if you count Y as a vowel in words like "Bay".

Dan Tilque:


> Do you pronounce a consonantal Y there?

Do you pronounce a vowel Y there? (That is, like long or short I.)
I view it as a silent consonant, like GH in "weigh".
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Erland Sommarskog

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Jul 11, 2011, 4:27:00 PM7/11/11
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> Do you pronounce a vowel Y there? (That is, like long or short I.)
> I view it as a silent consonant, like GH in "weigh".

What are silent consonants in this utterly confused language known as
English is not always easy to tell, but "ba" and "bay" are certainly
not pronounced the same. Then again "bay" has the same sounds as "bake",
save the final /k/.

Whatever, I agree that Y cannot count as a vowel here.

Dan Tilque

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Jul 12, 2011, 7:04:33 AM7/12/11
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Mark Brader wrote:
> Dan Tilque:
>>>> ...#5 violates the theme.
>
> Mark Brader:
>>> Only if you count Y as a vowel in words like "Bay".
>
> Dan Tilque:
>> Do you pronounce a consonantal Y there?
>
> Do you pronounce a vowel Y there? (That is, like long or short I.)
> I view it as a silent consonant, like GH in "weigh".

Since it's silent (this is arguable, but I'm going to ignore that here),
let's look at the etymology to see where the letter derives from. M-W
has no fewer than 5 etymologies for "bay" depending on the meaning. In
all of them, the Y derives from some other vowel. In this specific case
(a body of water), the etymology is

"Middle English baye, from Anglo-French bai, perhaps from baer to be
wide open"

Looks like a vowel to me.

--
Dan Tilque

Erland Sommarskog

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Jul 12, 2011, 8:29:07 AM7/12/11
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Dan Tilque (dti...@frontier.com) writes:
> Since it's silent (this is arguable, but I'm going to ignore that here),
> let's look at the etymology to see where the letter derives from. M-W
> has no fewer than 5 etymologies for "bay" depending on the meaning. In
> all of them, the Y derives from some other vowel. In this specific case
> (a body of water), the etymology is
>
> "Middle English baye, from Anglo-French bai, perhaps from baer to be
> wide open"
>
> Looks like a vowel to me.

Apparently Mark should have asked for the City on Flames instead.

Mark Brader

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Jul 12, 2011, 11:36:54 AM7/12/11
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Mark Brader:
>>>> Only if you count Y as a vowel in words like "Bay".

Dan Tilque:


> Since it's silent (this is arguable, but I'm going to ignore that here),
> let's look at the etymology to see where the letter derives from.

That route just gets into complications. Let's not.

"How" and "ho" are not pronounced with the same vowel sound, but for
most people this does not mean that W is a vowel in "how". (Yes, of
course W is a vowel in words like "cwm" that we copied from Welsh.)
If *you* count Y as a vowel in "Bay", fine. I won't.
--
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Toronto right. There['s] your opinion, which is wrong,
m...@vex.net and mine, which is right." -- Gene Ward Smith

Dan Tilque

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Jul 13, 2011, 4:27:42 AM7/13/11
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Mark Brader wrote:
> Mark Brader:
>>>>> Only if you count Y as a vowel in words like "Bay".
>
> Dan Tilque:
>> Since it's silent (this is arguable, but I'm going to ignore that here),
>> let's look at the etymology to see where the letter derives from.
>
> That route just gets into complications. Let's not.

Perhaps, but I'd be surprised if there's any case where a word ends with
a vowel-Y and and the Y doesn't derive from a vowel.

> If *you* count Y as a vowel in "Bay", fine. I won't.

My rule for Y is that it's a consonant if it begins a syllable and is
not the only letter in that syllable. Otherwise it's a vowel. I don't
think there's any exceptions where the pronunciation of a Y violates
this rule, but I could be wrong.

--
Dan Tilque

Erland Sommarskog

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Jul 13, 2011, 5:00:42 AM7/13/11
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Dan Tilque (dti...@frontier.com) writes:
> Perhaps, but I'd be surprised if there's any case where a word ends with
> a vowel-Y and and the Y doesn't derive from a vowel.

You have words like "key" and "way" where the "y" rather reflects an
initial -g that has been palatalised. For instance "way" is "weg" in modern
German and "väg" in Swedish. Whereas it is "vej" in Danish.

björn lundin

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Jul 14, 2011, 2:52:47 AM7/14/11
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On 13 Juli, 11:00, Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:

> Dan Tilque (dtil...@frontier.com) writes:
> > Perhaps, but I'd be surprised if there's any case where a word ends with
> > a vowel-Y and and the Y doesn't derive from a vowel.
>
Right now, I consider myself lucky, having a mother tounge in a
language with a
*fixed* set of vowels and consonants. They do not change depending on
their context,
They are measured by pronounceabilty (is there such a word?) when
standing alone.
--
Björn Lundin
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