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Mark Brader

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May 14, 2020, 12:05:12 AM5/14/20
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These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2020-03-02,
and should be interpreted accordingly.

On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days.

All questions were written by members of MI5 and are used here by
permission, but have been reformatted and may have been retyped
and/or edited by me. For further information see my 2019-10-16
companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian Inquisition
(QFTCI*)".


* Game 7, Round 2 - Geography - European Second-Largest Cities

We name a European country, and you name its second-largest city
by population. All answers are according to worldatlas.com.

1. United Kingdom.
2. France.
3. Italy.
4. Russia.
5. Germany.
6. Spain.
7. Greece.
8. Poland.
9. Portugal.
10. Sweden.


* Game 7, Round 3 - Canadiana History - The 1837 Rebellions

The 1837 rebellions were uprisings in Upper and Lower Canada against
the oligarchic governments of the day, in which the elected chamber
was subject to being overruled by an appointed Executive Council.

1. After 2 years of strife between a Reform legislature and a
Conservative executive, the elections of 1836 were marred
by corruption and violence. Much of the blame was leveled
at the active involvement of the newest governor, a travel
writer with little political experience. However, he is
still commemorated by the name of a community now included in
Bradford West Gwillimbury, and the name of a golf course just
north of Aurora. Who?

2. In 1837, the Upper Canada legislature violated parliamentary
tradition by refusing to resign and call new elections upon
the death of the reigning sovereign. Who had died, leaving
the throne to Queen Victoria?

3. The newspaper "The Colonial Advocate" was a thorn in the side of
the Family Compact, the group of intermarried wealthy families
who monopolized the high-salaried government offices in Upper
Canada. Following the election of 1836, the newspaper changed
its name to "The Constitution". Who *owned* it?

4. Armed rebellions broke out first in Lower Canada. Who was the
main leader, from Montebello, Quebec? (Hint: Justin Trudeau's
riding bears his name.)

5. What was the meeting point for the armed rebels who assembled
outside Toronto on 1837-12-04? Now in Toronto, for many years
the site was home to Postal Station K.

6. After a futile battle at <answer 5>, the rebel leaders fled.
Mackenzie quickly reached the US, where he declared himself
head of the "Republic of Canada". What island upstream from
the Niagara Falls was selected as the home base of this republic?

7. In a small village in Lower Canada, government forces trapped
numerous "Patriotes" in the local church, then burnt it down
with the rebels inside. Where did this atrocity take place?

8. Two leading citizens (one a blacksmith, the other a farmer)
were found guilty of treason and publicly hanged in Toronto.
Their monument can be seen in the Toronto Necropolis.
Name either.

9. Another hundred or so rebels from Upper Canada were found guilty
and sent as unwilling guests of Her Majesty on a one-way trip.
To which unpleasant destination did they go?

10. <answer 3> was arrested and spent some years in the US, but
was soon back writing and taking part in politics. Bygones were
not allowed to be bygones, though. What notable event followed
the controversial passage of the Rebellion Losses Bill of 1849,
which allowed claims for both loyalists and reformers?

After completing the round, please decode the rot13: [1] Bar nafjre
vf n zna jvgu n gjb-jbeq fheanzr. Obgu jbeqf bs uvf fheanzr ner
erdhverq. [2] Gur fvgr jurer gur eroryf nffrzoyrq arne Gbebagb, gur
bar gung jnf yngre n cbfg bssvpr, nyfb unf n gjb-jbeq anzr. Vs lbh
bayl xabj bar jbeq V'yy npprcg gung cyhf fbzr vaqvpngvba bs jurer
va Gbebagb gur cynpr vf. [3] "Nhfgenyvn" vf vafhssvpvragyl fcrpvsvp
ertneqvat gur eroryf jub jrer fragraprq gb genafcbegngvba. Va rnpu
pnfr, tb onpx vs arprffnel naq nqq gb lbhe nafjre nf nccyvpnoyr.

--
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m...@vex.net | to submit to it." -- Miguel de Cervantes, 1613

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Calvin

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May 14, 2020, 12:51:45 AM5/14/20
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On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 2:05:12 PM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:


> * Game 7, Round 2 - Geography - European Second-Largest Cities
>
> We name a European country, and you name its second-largest city
> by population. All answers are according to worldatlas.com.
>
> 1. United Kingdom.

Birmingham

> 2. France.

Lyon

> 3. Italy.

Milan, Naples

> 4. Russia.

St Petersburg

> 5. Germany.

Hamburg

> 6. Spain.

Barcelona

> 7. Greece.

Thebes?

> 8. Poland.

Krakow

> 9. Portugal.

Porto

> 10. Sweden.

Gothenburg, Stockholm

cheers,
calvin

Joshua Kreitzer

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May 14, 2020, 1:36:48 AM5/14/20
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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:PbWdnf1pDMjvXiHDnZ2dnUU7-
QnN...@giganews.com:

> * Game 7, Round 2 - Geography - European Second-Largest Cities
>
> We name a European country, and you name its second-largest city
> by population. All answers are according to worldatlas.com.
>
> 1. United Kingdom.

Manchester

> 2. France.

Marseille

> 3. Italy.

Milan

> 4. Russia.

St. Petersburg

> 5. Germany.

Munich; Berlin

> 6. Spain.

Madrid; Barcelona

> 7. Greece.

Thessaloniki

> 8. Poland.

Krakow

> 10. Sweden

Malmo

> * Game 7, Round 3 - Canadiana History - The 1837 Rebellions
>
> 2. In 1837, the Upper Canada legislature violated parliamentary
> tradition by refusing to resign and call new elections upon
> the death of the reigning sovereign. Who had died, leaving
> the throne to Queen Victoria?

King William IV

--
Joshua Kreitzer
grom...@hotmail.com

Dan Blum

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May 14, 2020, 9:20:11 AM5/14/20
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Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:

> * Game 7, Round 2 - Geography - European Second-Largest Cities

> 1. United Kingdom.

Birmingham

> 2. France.

Lyon

> 3. Italy.

Milan

> 4. Russia.

St. Petersburg

> 5. Germany.

Munich

> 6. Spain.

Barcelona

> 7. Greece.

Thessaloniki

> 8. Poland.

Krakow

> 9. Portugal.

Porto

> 10. Sweden.

Uppsala

> * Game 7, Round 3 - Canadiana History - The 1837 Rebellions

> 2. In 1837, the Upper Canada legislature violated parliamentary
> tradition by refusing to resign and call new elections upon
> the death of the reigning sovereign. Who had died, leaving
> the throne to Queen Victoria?

William IV

> 6. After a futile battle at <answer 5>, the rebel leaders fled.
> Mackenzie quickly reached the US, where he declared himself
> head of the "Republic of Canada". What island upstream from
> the Niagara Falls was selected as the home base of this republic?

Grand Island

> 9. Another hundred or so rebels from Upper Canada were found guilty
> and sent as unwilling guests of Her Majesty on a one-way trip.
> To which unpleasant destination did they go?

Botany Bay

--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum to...@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."

Erland Sommarskog

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May 14, 2020, 2:40:45 PM5/14/20
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> * Game 7, Round 2 - Geography - European Second-Largest Cities
>
> We name a European country, and you name its second-largest city
> by population. All answers are according to worldatlas.com.
>
> 1. United Kingdom.

Birmingham

> 2. France.

Lyon

> 3. Italy.

Milano

> 4. Russia.

Sankt Peterburg

> 5. Germany.

München

> 6. Spain.

Barcelona

> 7. Greece.

Thessaloniki

> 8. Poland.

Lodz

> 9. Portugal.

Porto

> 10. Sweden.

Göteborg

> * Game 7, Round 3 - Canadiana History - The 1837 Rebellions
>

Not me.

Dan Tilque

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May 14, 2020, 6:08:19 PM5/14/20
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On 5/13/20 9:05 PM, Mark Brader wrote:
>
> * Game 7, Round 2 - Geography - European Second-Largest Cities
>
> We name a European country, and you name its second-largest city
> by population. All answers are according to worldatlas.com.
>
> 1. United Kingdom.

Manchester

> 2. France.

Marseilles

> 3. Italy.

Milan

> 4. Russia.

Saint Petersburg

> 5. Germany.

Hamburg

> 6. Spain.

Barcelona

> 7. Greece.

Sparta

> 8. Poland.

Krakow

> 9. Portugal.

Oporto

> 10. Sweden.

Gothenburg

>
>
> * Game 7, Round 3 - Canadiana History - The 1837 Rebellions
>
> The 1837 rebellions were uprisings in Upper and Lower Canada against
> the oligarchic governments of the day, in which the elected chamber
> was subject to being overruled by an appointed Executive Council.
>
> 1. After 2 years of strife between a Reform legislature and a
> Conservative executive, the elections of 1836 were marred
> by corruption and violence. Much of the blame was leveled
> at the active involvement of the newest governor, a travel
> writer with little political experience. However, he is
> still commemorated by the name of a community now included in
> Bradford West Gwillimbury, and the name of a golf course just
> north of Aurora. Who?
>
> 2. In 1837, the Upper Canada legislature violated parliamentary
> tradition by refusing to resign and call new elections upon
> the death of the reigning sovereign. Who had died, leaving
> the throne to Queen Victoria?

William IV
Sydney Cove, NSW

>
> 10. <answer 3> was arrested and spent some years in the US, but
> was soon back writing and taking part in politics. Bygones were
> not allowed to be bygones, though. What notable event followed
> the controversial passage of the Rebellion Losses Bill of 1849,
> which allowed claims for both loyalists and reformers?
>
> After completing the round, please decode the rot13: [1] Bar nafjre
> vf n zna jvgu n gjb-jbeq fheanzr. Obgu jbeqf bs uvf fheanzr ner
> erdhverq. [2] Gur fvgr jurer gur eroryf nffrzoyrq arne Gbebagb, gur
> bar gung jnf yngre n cbfg bssvpr, nyfb unf n gjb-jbeq anzr. Vs lbh
> bayl xabj bar jbeq V'yy npprcg gung cyhf fbzr vaqvpngvba bs jurer
> va Gbebagb gur cynpr vf. [3] "Nhfgenyvn" vf vafhssvpvragyl fcrpvsvp
> ertneqvat gur eroryf jub jrer fragraprq gb genafcbegngvba. Va rnpu
> pnfr, tb onpx vs arprffnel naq nqq gb lbhe nafjre nf nccyvpnoyr.
>

--
Dan Tilque

Pete Gayde

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May 14, 2020, 8:27:50 PM5/14/20
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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:PbWdnf1pDMjvXiHDnZ2dnUU7-
QnN...@giganews.com:

> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2020-03-02,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days.
>
> All questions were written by members of MI5 and are used here by
> permission, but have been reformatted and may have been retyped
> and/or edited by me. For further information see my 2019-10-16
> companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian Inquisition
> (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> * Game 7, Round 2 - Geography - European Second-Largest Cities
>
> We name a European country, and you name its second-largest city
> by population. All answers are according to worldatlas.com.
>
> 1. United Kingdom.

Birmingham

> 2. France.

Lyons; Marseilles

> 3. Italy.

Turin; Rome

> 4. Russia.

St Petersburg; Volgagrad

> 5. Germany.

Hamburg; Munich

> 6. Spain.

Barcelona; Valencia

> 7. Greece.

Thessaloniki

> 8. Poland.

Cracow; Lodz

> 9. Portugal.

Oporto

> 10. Sweden.

Gothenburg; Malmo

>
>
> * Game 7, Round 3 - Canadiana History - The 1837 Rebellions
>
> The 1837 rebellions were uprisings in Upper and Lower Canada against
> the oligarchic governments of the day, in which the elected chamber
> was subject to being overruled by an appointed Executive Council.
>
> 1. After 2 years of strife between a Reform legislature and a
> Conservative executive, the elections of 1836 were marred
> by corruption and violence. Much of the blame was leveled
> at the active involvement of the newest governor, a travel
> writer with little political experience. However, he is
> still commemorated by the name of a community now included in
> Bradford West Gwillimbury, and the name of a golf course just
> north of Aurora. Who?
>
> 2. In 1837, the Upper Canada legislature violated parliamentary
> tradition by refusing to resign and call new elections upon
> the death of the reigning sovereign. Who had died, leaving
> the throne to Queen Victoria?

George III; Edward V
Pete Gayde

Bruce Bowler

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May 15, 2020, 9:27:40 AM5/15/20
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On Wed, 13 May 2020 23:05:06 -0500, Mark Brader wrote:

> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2020-03-02, and
> should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give both a
> right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty. Please post
> all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup, based only on
> your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote the questions and
> place your answer below each one.) I will reveal the correct answers in
> about 3 days.
>
> All questions were written by members of MI5 and are used here by
> permission, but have been reformatted and may have been retyped and/or
> edited by me. For further information see my 2019-10-16 companion
> posting on "Questions from the Canadian Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> * Game 7, Round 2 - Geography - European Second-Largest Cities
>
> We name a European country, and you name its second-largest city by
> population. All answers are according to worldatlas.com.
>
> 1. United Kingdom.

Birmingham

> 2. France.

Lyons

> 3. Italy.

Florence

> 4. Russia.
> 5. Germany.

Hamburg

> 6. Spain.

Barcelona

> 7. Greece.
> 8. Poland.
> 9. Portugal.
> 10. Sweden.

Malmo

>
>
> * Game 7, Round 3 - Canadiana History - The 1837 Rebellions

Nope

Mark Brader

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Mark Brader:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2020-03-02,
> and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information
> see my 2019-10-16 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".


> * Game 7, Round 2 - Geography - European Second-Largest Cities

> We name a European country, and you name its second-largest city
> by population. All answers are according to worldatlas.com.

In all 10 of these countries, the largest city is the capital (at
least according to citypopulation.de, which agrees with all the
answers shown here).

> 1. United Kingdom.

Birmingham. 4 for Calvin, Dan Blum, Erland, Pete, and Bruce.

> 2. France.

Marseille. 4 for Joshua and Dan Tilque. 2 for Pete.

> 3. Italy.

Milan. 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, Erland, and Dan Tilque. 3 for Calvin.

> 4. Russia.

St. Petersburg. 4 for Calvin, Joshua, Dan Blum, Erland,
and Dan Tilque. 3 for Pete.

> 5. Germany.

Hamburg. 4 for Calvin, Dan Tilque, and Bruce. 3 for Pete.

> 6. Spain.

Barcelona. 4 for Calvin, Dan Blum, Erland, Dan Tilque, and Bruce.
3 for Pete. 2 for Joshua.

> 7. Greece.

Thessaloniki (Saloniki). 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, Erland, and Pete.

> 8. Poland.

Krakow. 4 for Calvin, Joshua, Dan Blum, and Dan Tilque. 3 for Pete.

> 9. Portugal.

(O)Porto. 4 for Calvin, Dan Blum, Erland, Dan Tilque, and Pete.

> 10. Sweden.

Gothenburg (Göteborg). 4 for Erland and Dan Tilque. 3 for Calvin
and Pete.


> * Game 7, Round 3 - Canadiana History - The 1837 Rebellions

> The 1837 rebellions were uprisings in Upper and Lower Canada against
> the oligarchic governments of the day, in which the elected chamber
> was subject to being overruled by an appointed Executive Council.

This was the hardest round in the original game.

> 1. After 2 years of strife between a Reform legislature and a
> Conservative executive, the elections of 1836 were marred
> by corruption and violence. Much of the blame was leveled
> at the active involvement of the newest governor, a travel
> writer with little political experience. However, he is
> still commemorated by the name of a community now included in
> Bradford West Gwillimbury, and the name of a golf course just
> north of Aurora. Who?

Sir Francis Bond Head. (Two-word surname required.)

> 2. In 1837, the Upper Canada legislature violated parliamentary
> tradition by refusing to resign and call new elections upon
> the death of the reigning sovereign. Who had died, leaving
> the throne to Queen Victoria?

King William IV. 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, and Dan Tilque.

> 3. The newspaper "The Colonial Advocate" was a thorn in the side of
> the Family Compact, the group of intermarried wealthy families
> who monopolized the high-salaried government offices in Upper
> Canada. Following the election of 1836, the newspaper changed
> its name to "The Constitution". Who *owned* it?

William Lyon Mackenzie. (Mayor of Toronto in 1834, leader of the
Upper Canada rebellion in 1837, and of course, grandfather of Prime
Minister W.L.M. King.)

> 4. Armed rebellions broke out first in Lower Canada. Who was the
> main leader, from Montebello, Quebec? (Hint: Justin Trudeau's
> riding bears his name.)

Louis-Joseph Papineau.

> 5. What was the meeting point for the armed rebels who assembled
> outside Toronto on 1837-12-04? Now in Toronto, for many years
> the site was home to Postal Station K.

Montgomery's Tavern. (At Yonge St. and Montgomery Av., a few blocks
from my house.)

In keeping with the original game, you had to make clear that this
was not Montgomery's *Inn*. The latter is an unrelated historical
site -- named for a different Montgomery -- that also existed in 1837,
and this one still exists; it's about 8 miles away at Dundas St. and
Montgomery *Rd.* -- a few blocks from both of my two most recent
previous homes before my present one!

> 6. After a futile battle at <answer 5>, the rebel leaders fled.
> Mackenzie quickly reached the US, where he declared himself
> head of the "Republic of Canada". What island upstream from
> the Niagara Falls was selected as the home base of this republic?

Navy I. (It's just northwest of Grand I., in the Canadian part of
the river, and thus within the modern city of Niagara Falls, Ontario.)

> 7. In a small village in Lower Canada, government forces trapped
> numerous "Patriotes" in the local church, then burnt it down
> with the rebels inside. Where did this atrocity take place?

St-Eustache.

> 8. Two leading citizens (one a blacksmith, the other a farmer)
> were found guilty of treason and publicly hanged in Toronto.
> Their monument can be seen in the Toronto Necropolis.
> Name either.

Samuel Lount, Peter Matthews.

> 9. Another hundred or so rebels from Upper Canada were found guilty
> and sent as unwilling guests of Her Majesty on a one-way trip.
> To which unpleasant destination did they go?

Van Diemen's Land (now Tasmania; accepting either).

Rebels from *Lower* Canada were transported to Sydney.

> 10. <answer 3> was arrested and spent some years in the US, but
> was soon back writing and taking part in politics. Bygones were
> not allowed to be bygones, though. What notable event followed
> the controversial passage of the Rebellion Losses Bill of 1849,
> which allowed claims for both loyalists and reformers?

Burning of the Parliament Buildings in Montreal.


Scores, if there are no errors:

GAME 7 ROUNDS-> 2 3 TOTALS
TOPICS-> Geo Can
Dan Tilque 32 4 36
Dan Blum 28 4 32
"Calvin" 30 0 30
Pete Gayde 29 0 29
Erland Sommarskog 28 0 28
Joshua Kreitzer 22 4 26
Bruce Bowler 12 0 12

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